Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers (Discussion Thread)

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Album is incredible brehs….
I'm convinced people are dumb as fukk or just had insanely high expectations. This album gets better every time I listen to it. Right now, I would say the first half is stronger, but that's probably because most of the "hits" and "bangers" are there. I need to give the second half more attention.

And that's another thing. People were complaining about this album like Kendrick was singing over acoustic guitars for most of it. Saying he's not really making hip hop music anymore. What is this if it's not hip hop? Classical? Ska, jazz? I knew that if I gave the album more time to sit, I would appreciate it even more than I did the first time. I could see someone playing both sides separately because it's a heavy listen, but it's worth it. If this is Kendrick’s worst album, then his discography deserves all the recognition in the world.
 

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I'm convinced people are dumb as fukk or just had insanely high expectations. This album gets better every time I listen to it. Right now, I would say the first half is stronger, but that's probably because most of the "hits" and "bangers" are there. I need to give the second half more attention.

And that's another thing. People were complaining about this album like Kendrick was singing over acoustic guitars for most of it. Saying he's not really making hip hop music anymore. What is this if it's not hip hop? Classical? Ska, jazz? I knew that if I gave the album more time to sit, I would appreciate it even more than I did the first time. I could see someone playing both sides separately because it's a heavy listen, but it's worth it. If this is Kendrick’s worst album, then his discography deserves all the recognition in the world.


Exactly.

Even tho the album is only a couple weeks old, where would you rank it in his discography....
 

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This don't hit like GKMC where you knew it was a dope album listen 1 based off the vibe.

Many albums when classic hit out the gate. Life after death, blueprint, stillmatic, get rich or die tryin. Carter 2 was fire listen 1.

Growers off hand...black album and take care....but that's because I couldn't immediately get into their production/beats off first few listens as I had certain expectations. Jeezy first album had to grow on me because my ear was tuned to Kanye conscience content era along with soulful beats minus the lil Jon and Ludacris exceptions. So, If you wasn't a guest rapper on Chapelle show I wasn't feeling the music...that's the culture/climate Jeezy and the Houston rappers 2005 was competing with.



Anyways, Off first listen only tracks I like are: die hard, savior, the beat for mirror.


Plus album not ground breaking as Brandon Marshall been talking about mental health for last 5years in the mainstream sports world...talking we tell boys to toughen up and walk it off while we hung girls saying it's going to be alright. Plus IG girls talking mental health in their captions when I get bored and read the babble. Plus better help commercials on TV everyday.

I think this album is poorly executed...he ain't talented enough to make us think about topics in a different light nor provide compelling perspectives. Kendrick just isn't a compelling enough rapper where you care about his personal thoughts or business moves in his raps like Jay-Z, Kanye, or 1999-2003 Eminem. Like people looked forward to Jay-Z addressing issues and addressing people anytime he dropped a new track from 2001-2014.

Kendrick just missing something that he can't execute beyond catchy hooks and picking good beats. Kendrick could be a hook & bridge guy like Nate Dogg and be successful. His 16s just don't hit for a top draw rap guy over the last 10 years.
 

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Exactly.

Even tho the album is only a couple weeks old, where would you rank it in his discography....
It's hard to say because I feel like I need to go through Kendrick’s discography again and give it a definitive ranking. Or at least his first two albums because I don't have the same experience with them that I do with his later stuff, which I've heard over and over.

Right now, I'll say it's better than DAMN, which is an album I've always liked and played constantly in 2017 but I don’t think I'd put it over TPAB. Some of Kendrick’s best songs are on there, including my personal favorite ("The Blacker the Berry").
 

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Exactly.

Even tho the album is only a couple weeks old, where would you rank it in his discography....
I think it’s clearly his worst album to me.

TPAB
GKMC
DAMN
S80
this

(Not counting UU but I like that more too)

Some great songs but also some of his worst songs, and the mainstream attempts are a clear step down from DAMN and even Black Panther. Purple Hearts is ok but I can imagine a lot of people, including Drake, doing that better. I don’t understand his inclination to dumb things down on mainstream tracks here. It almost feels like baby talk at times. Future can get away with things like that because his Melodie’s are great but that’s not Kdot’s strength.
 

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Can't believe I haven't listened to this since it dropped and don't have any intention on doing so. Why you do us like that K Dot? Meanwhile that Soccer Dad track got me anticipating Q's next album.
 

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I think it’s clearly his worst album to me.

TPAB
GKMC
DAMN
S80
this

(Not counting UU but I like that more too)

Some great songs but also some of his worst songs, and the mainstream attempts are a clear step down from DAMN and even Black Panther. Purple Hearts is ok but I can imagine a lot of people, including Drake, doing that better. I don’t understand his inclination to dumb things down on mainstream tracks here. It almost feels like baby talk at times. Future can get away with things like that because his Melodie’s are great but that’s not Kdot’s strength.

Interesting. What are the really bad songs here, and where do you feel like he's dumbing it down? "Purple Hearts" sounds like one of the songs that could be a hit, which is why the whole "he has no bangers" criticism doesn't make any sense to me.

You know who I could hear on that song? Nas. Sounds like something from the King's Disease series.
 
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