Kendrick Lamar is amazing but Lupe Fiasco's concepts,metaphors,swag would trample him - Mickey Factz

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@mobbinfms but this thread is ABOUT lu's usage of literary techniques. we dont got to talk about it to know it. thats why nas is considered DOPE and luke from 2 live crew is considered WACK. if nas talked and wrote about the same shyt luke did hed be wack too its because nas was ADVANCED that we all appreciate him.

and thats bullshyt cause rakim was seen as way ahead of his time BECAUSE of these "LITERARY" Techniques we are discussing now.

why dont yall give me 10 reasosn WHY deck is better than lupe WITHOUT using "literary" techniques... i bet you cant get passed 5. why did we say the new rappers of the 90s were better than the rappers of the 80s.. cause they were advanced. and used all those things that werew disucssed here already
I'm not saying rappers shouldn't use literary techniques. I'm saying this is hip hop. Not an Classic Literature class. We don't talk about hip hop the way classic literature may be discussed. That's not taking anything away from hip hop. It's just different. :huhldup:
Let's keep that same energy. :Nipsey:
Let's not get overly nerdy when discussing this shyt. :prodigylol:
That's all. :hubie:

Deck is better than Lupe because of the way he rapped, the caliber of his greatest verses and how the verses and the music have held up.
 

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He don't want that.

But he gonna keep chirping anyway

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I'm not saying rappers shouldn't use literary techniques. I'm saying this is hip hop. Not an Classic Literature class. We don't talk about hip hop the way classic literature may be discussed. That's not taking anything away from hip hop. It's just different. :huhldup:
Let's keep that same energy. :Nipsey:
Let's not get overly nerdy when discussing this shyt. :prodigylol:
That's all. :hubie:

Deck is better than Lupe because of the way he rapped, the caliber of his greatest verses and how the verses and the music have held up.
i didnt bring up one term so dead the nerd shyt. tell that to the dude who said it in OP. we are discussing LYRICS, not mc abiliuty, not likeability, not classic albums, or anything else. lupe lyrically is great yall need to stop it. 5 songs with 5 different subjects off my head that everyone loves that i know who listens to hip hop











deck was part of the greatest collective of all time. its an unfair comparison because they are two different artists. one is a solo artisyt, the other is a legendary mc who as part of a 9 man crew gets the props for the entire thing, for better or worse.

his solo album was mediocre. i think we can all agree with that. can you name ONE deck song you can spit off ya head from passed 10 years? one czarface song?

lupe writes a variety of different songs. simple ones. complex ones. deep ones. emotional ones. etc. is he the best mc? not even close but lyrically if you have no respect for him, your deaf or a hater.

kid is gifted. i know you just hypeman but making that clear
 

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That song blew up (aka white people loved it) because they thought it was all about skateboarding. Atlantic's involvement with one record hardly proves they were wrong about Lazers. That was a very successful record. As much bytching as was put into it and excuses made by Lupe stans, it's a solid album :yeshrug:

Lupe, like Nas, could have a better ear for beats. Exceptional lyricists that still make good music in spite of but could still benefit from other people helping them pick beats.
Which album was better in the long run for his career tho, The Cool or Lasers?

The Cool had the hits and built upon his already steadily growing fan base. It was a perfect balance of Lupe’s artistic vision and mainstream success.

Lasers had the hits but divided his fan base because the original product was scrapped and replaced with pop filler.

The big hit chasing sound isn’t sustainable when it comes to longevity of a career.

Lupe’s best selection was perfect for him early in his career until Atlantic started fukking up the process. It’s no wonder how Tetsuo & Youth had the best selection of beats he had for a full album since The Cool, Atlantic was forced to lay off of holding his album hostage.
 

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There's just a click on here. You would think they were alias the way they dikkriding each other

Hocean and caccinfms? Those two been married for several years. They're probably the same person.

I don't know which is sadder: a dude who stalks all day with aliases or two separate weirdos (one with a wife and kids :duck:) who have found love in each other and stalk all day

i didnt bring up one term so dead the nerd shyt. tell that to the dude who said it in OP. we are discussing LYRICS, not mc abiliuty, not likeability, not classic albums, or anything else. lupe lyrically is great yall need to stop it. 5 songs with 5 different subjects off my head that everyone loves that i know who listens to hip hop











deck was part of the greatest collective of all time. its an unfair comparison because they are two different artists. one is a solo artisyt, the other is a legendary mc who as part of a 9 man crew gets the props for the entire thing, for better or worse.

his solo album was mediocre. i think we can all agree with that. can you name ONE deck song you can spit off ya head from passed 10 years? one czarface song?

lupe writes a variety of different songs. simple ones. complex ones. deep ones. emotional ones. etc. is he the best mc? not even close but lyrically if you have no respect for him, your deaf or a hater.

kid is gifted. i know you just hypeman but making that clear


The Cool > any Kendrick song
 

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Hocean and caccin? Those two been married for several years. They're probably the same person.

I don't know which is sadder: a dude who stalks all day with aliases or two separate weirdos (one with a wife and kids :duck:) who have found love in each other and stalk all day



The Cool > any Kendrick song
They both think prodigy was a better lyricist than lupe. I made a thread about the 2 last year. Mobbin tagged his whole thot squad
 

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I agree.

Why don't you put up your top 5 Lupe quotables? Not whole verses. Just a strong line for each. Two lines at most for each quotable.

Then I'll put up my top 5 Prodigy quotables. Shouldn't take you long. If you really listen to Lu like that, shyt already be in your mind.
 

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"That lyrical shyt is wack" is just another way for people who don't have any talent to take part in the genre.There was a time when actual talent was needed and served as a natural sieve so that Hip hop wasn't oversaturated...You actually had to be nice.
Now since anybody thinks they can do the same wack shyt that's on the airwaves,everybody and they mother "raps".No more natural quality control because nobody is praising actual skills.
Plus this new age rap is producing suspect behavior...all we produced in the 90s and early 2000s was babies, MCz and jail time.
 
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