Kanye West makes white music for people who don't wanna listen to white music.

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you're way off the mark. I used those terms 'black and white' cause thats what the average person associates with. Though I know they're not accurate.

My point is Kanye talks about the same shyt people like Greenday or fallout boy do. But gets extra credit for it cause its hip hop. And his main fans wouldn't want to listen to the same content in another genre, or by a rapper who presented himself more as a 'square'

Loooooool. :deadmanny::deadrose::dead:
 
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I hate the fact that this album which is categorized hip hop is not listed in the forum. I vote a fukk you to whomever made that silly decision.
 

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First page is ridiculous, no he has a good sense of musicality. c00n antics drew the cacs in more.
 

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When Common talks about how alcohol has a hold on him, that makes him HUMAN not a moralizing, condescending, "conshush Rappa" cliche.
When Kendrick talks about going "Too fast" with a girl and ending the show early that makes him, HUMAN.
When Mos Def talks about getting blown off/played by a woman who is flustered when she's introduced to him later, it adds humanity to
his rhymes
Songs please
 

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It's an example of his brilliance as far as self promotion and positioning himself.

The early albums were heavy on soul samples and interpolations with pro black lyrics here and there. But in a way that was unthreatening to white listeners. And the shyt someone said about having content similar to pop rock ain't far off. Like Spaceship, lyrically that hook could be straight from one of those emo bands. Song talking about being stuck in a shytty job and boring life. But with a handful of references to the black experience thrown in. So white people who wanna be woke can sing along with the chorus then nod in agreement with the pro black sentiment and not feel attacked. And Kanye can point to the sample foundation and say this is black music, modern soul music.

That don't mean it ain't good(or great) music. But there's a reason he's been worshipped by white hipsters since College Dropout
 

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I agree, Kanye way better than all those cac musicians that get propped up :manny:
 

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I like him but he's always been some soft shoe shyt

he blew up and broke free from just producing by wearing cosby sweaters and hipster backpack doing very c00ny shyt
people are saying he's pro black... but white people love that shyt too. Especially when its done by a non threatening negro

kanye is a hipster, its just now he's got enough game to be "artsy" and drive hipster culture


Pharrell is the same way ... both dudes are super black but they do shyt mostly white people love. At their core that's what they love, its who they are though so its no big deal.. its blatantly obvious though.... artists like Jay-z and Nas, white people love... but they dont make music targeted towards white people at all.
 

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I don't think talking about normal everyday situations is "corny" in fact it humanizes rappers in my opinion and it's apart of the appeal
of several rappers before and after Kanye. And honestly I think your opinion stems from what I'm assuming is an introduction to and fandom
of Hip Hop that was/is mainstream. The problem with this is before Kanye there was De La Soul, Q-Tip, The Roots, Aceyalone, Myka Nyne,
Murs, Slug etc.

And personally I don't find his writing style "Corny".
When Common talks about how alcohol has a hold on him, that makes him HUMAN not a moralizing, condescending, "conshush Rappa" cliche.
When Kendrick talks about going "Too fast" with a girl and ending the show early that makes him, HUMAN.
When Mos Def talks about getting blown off/played by a woman who is flustered when she's introduced to him later, it adds humanity to
his rhymes that gets lost in the "Drugs, bytches, Hoes" or "Guvment, illuminati, Hotep" speech of other rappers.

Too me what Kanye did (in a mainstream sense at least....) was brilliant and this came at a time when Gangsta rap was practically
made of fukking teflon and talking "normal" things wasn't "cool". This was the polar opposite to "Many men" 50 cent or "The barrel in my apparel
can stop god...." Jay-Z or the brag ridden rhymes of other "Street" or "Gangster" rappers. And I'm not saying that to say Kanye
is a stranger to bragging cause he most certainly isn't.

With that said I'd say this sorta writing style is actually pretty common in a lot of African American Music and the pictures it can and does paint.
And it's likely one of the reasons that for example the Blues was able to have such crossover appeal in Britain. It had the music
obviously but lyrically it spoke to people thousands of miles away much like Hip Hop does in 2015.


Low key, I'm a top five poster.
 

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Wrong. He makes black music for people that don't like black music... you can add The Weeknd, Tyler The Creator, Drake and a ton of other artists in there as well, they do the same exact shyt. In fact... it's what music in the US is becoming more and more of.
 
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