I already explained to you the issue with post-1800 egyptology. You can play dumb all you want but unless you subscribe to the Hamitic Hypothesis (which was a patently racist theory created by vocal eugenicists that has no scientific backing) there is no basis for arguing Ancient Egypt wasn't black. Even modern egyptologists run away from the topic of race surrounding Ancient Egypt nowadays because they don't want to deal with this clearly racist legacy.
And did you really just cite art as an argument against Ancient Egypt being black? Crakkka please. Just look at these pictures and tell me which one ain't black.
Queen Tiye, the Great Royal Wife of Amenhotep III, mother of Akhenaten and grandmother of Tutankhamun
The Great Pharaoh Amenhotep III, husband of Tiye, father of Akhenaten and grandfather of Tutankhamun
Bust of Pharaoh Amenhotep III
The Great Pharoah Akhenaten, husband to Queen Nefertiti and father to the boy King Tutankhamun
Profile view of the Pharoah Akhenaten
Relief Portrait of the Pharaoh Akhenaten
The boy King Tutankhamun, son of the Pharoah Akhenaten and Queen Nefertiti
Mektaten, second daughter of Pharaoh Akhenaten and his Wife Nefertiti, sister to Tutankhamun
Head of the statue of a princess, one of the six daughters of Akhenaten and Nefertiti
The Great Sphinx of Giza
Statuette of Queen Tiye (Front View)
Statuette of Egyptian Female
Statue of Egyptian Male
All I see is a bunch of nikkas. Please feel free to show me who in the royal family was non-black.
You’re showing art from various eras and just lumping them all in “ancient Egypt”
Publishing its findings in
Nature Communications, the study concluded that preserved remains found in Abusir-el Meleq, Middle Egypt, were closest genetic relatives of Neolithic and Bronze Age populations from the Near East, Anatolia and Eastern Mediterranean Europeans.
I already explained to you the issue with post-1800 egyptology. You can play dumb all you want but unless you subscribe to the Hamitic Hypothesis (which was a patently racist theory created by vocal eugenicists that has no scientific backing) there is no basis for arguing Ancient Egypt wasn't black. Even modern egyptologists run away from the topic of race surrounding Ancient Egypt nowadays because they don't want to deal with this clearly racist legacy.
And did you really just cite art as an argument against Ancient Egypt being black? Crakkka please. Just look at these pictures and tell me which one ain't black.
The boy King Tutankhamun, son of the Pharoah Akhenaten and Queen Nefertiti
1) first fallacy you made is selective reading. Show me where I said there was not any black Egyptians? You are trying to paint with broad strokes and all evidence points otherwise. Out of the millions of egyptians you posted like 10 selective artifacts.
2) second fallacy is again time - you go back far enough everyone started black. So again you post artificats over thousands of years inbetween them and playing them off as fact
3) third fallacy
and the one I'll highlight. You post King Tut. All evidence and it's widely accepted that he was not a dark skinned person.
“We think the common ancestor lived in the Caucasus about 9,500 years ago,” Scholz told Reuters. The results showed that King Tut belonged to a genetic profile group, known as haplogroup R1b1a2, to which more than 50 percent of all men in Western Europe belong, indicating that they share a common ancestor.
Up to 70 percent of British men and half of all Western European men are related to the Egyptian Pharaoh Tutankhamun, geneticists in Switzerland said.
www.reuters.com
so there's 1 major hole in what you posted because you're passing off busts off as "black" that have been proven otherwise
4) I never stated Egypt or any of the ancient kings/queens were white. I said they weren't as black as you and afrocentrics like to portray. They clearly weren't in the same specturm as West Africa. A point you have yet to disprove.
5) you posted a bust of Queen Tye. Here is her mummified remains. Now - I am not saying she could NOT have been black (specifically in how we term black nowadays, where anyone of mix background is called black), but she was not a nappy haired woman with an afro as the bust depicted and how you are trying to make it come across.
In fact the explanation of the "afro" is actually a blue beaded headdress. The color of the skin is because of the resin and age of the wood. These are scientific facts and also seen in various art work.
Even if you that wasn't the case - th hair itself would seem to denote she wasn't a West African black but of some sort of mixed background at best.
here is another art work of Queen Tiye - notice her skin color in this is quite a bit lighter than King Amenhotep. Do you think this was accidentally done?
6) from about a century earlier here is the mummified remains of Queen Hatshepsut wet-nurse Sitre-In, again depicting a woman with red/brown wavy hair.
7) here is art work depicting egyptians fighting against nubians
it's interesting how they depict the nubians quite a bit darker than themselves. Same color as the horse, noting they had limited pigments back then, but let's be optimistic and assume they did this just to show the difference between the two cultures and not because they weren't as black/dark as their nubian neighbors.
8) I don't know how you can take those images you posted and determine they are "black". Here's a good example of an "ancient" - King Tut egyptian bust and modern day egyptian. Yes, you could probably find a darker skinned comparison as well.
9) I'm surprised you didn't go with
. which dates about 1450 BC . Although exlcuding teh dark stone - I am not sure how you can even tell these people are black, mix, white or anything else. I think part of the issue is that Egyptians used alot of dark stones
the Khafre bust - again you can go either way. Features aren't wholly black/african .
10) ancient libyans on Seti's tomb. Libya was basically all the sahara in acient times and again I'll will contest that they weren't this pale (lack of pigment) but rather they were a lighter shade than Nubians and how they've been depicted. This is around 1290 BC
11) conclusion is that , Ancient Egyptians around 1400 BC and later were not holistically BLACK in the term of West Africa or even parts of Nubia. Instead they were a heterogenous group of people that had alot of shades. However, several busts YOU posted have been proven by various scientific means not to be BLACK but at the very least MIX and in some cases majority Euro(Tut)
I'm curious if you believe current Egyptians are Black (not African but Black)