Kamala Harris unveils economic plan

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On queue for not wanting a genuine discourse….Are you expecting a google article like someone who wants to be fed misinformation on a remedial level….? You didn’t even say that you knew what the u.s citizenship act was. And it’s because you’re talking from emotion and not information…. That’s fine…. .. cause you gon learn like everybody else…
Still no proof. You can't act like that claim is fact without some facts to back it up.

The original claim was that the Democrats are using illegals to replace the natural born american workers because companies don't want to pay fair wages and taxes.
 
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You can't put controls on food or rent. The supply will plummet since the producer won't be making a profit. With rent the majority of landlords aren't mega rich corporations they are your regular everyday person. Owning that property has expenses. If those expenses rise while the rent stays the same they won't be able to cover them.
If government gives out subsidies that's actually a hidden tax on the population.
This plan so far is basically " say nice things that will never happen especially during a recession so I can get votes".
To not be in a negative position the next four years get your money up.

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Let the government take over then. FOH if it is 'communism" because housing and food is a HUMAN RIGHT. If the private sector of a few greedy people get out of hand, the government gotta manhandle it like a parent putting an unruly child at their place.

Landlords are huge bytches that deserve less, and they need to be sent away or leave real estate altogether.
 

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You remember the great recession he adopted? How do you think he handled that?
Horribly. Even Democrat shill supreme Roland Martin admitted 53% of Black wealth was wiped out then. He bailed out Wall Street and the banks, and left the disproportionately Black people they victimized high and dry. fukk him.:manny:
 

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Still no proof. You can't act like that claim is fact without some facts to back it up.

The original claim was that the Democrats are using illegals to replace the natural born american workers because companies don't want to pay fair wages and taxes.

The proof is all around you but you want to be obtuse just for the sake of trying to win a discussion,. You expect a democratic presidential nominee to explicitly state that they want to make black Americans the bottom class?
 

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In closing, suppose one believes our results that immigration has lowered wages and raised incarceration rates among black men. Does this mean that restrictions on immigration are called for? The short answer is no. Most economists believe that immigration, like international trade, has beneficial effects for the U.S. economy overall. An inflow of foreign workers allows U.S. technology, plant and equipment, and other resources to be used more productively, raising national income. Yet, while immigration benefits U.S. employers and consumers, we‘ve seen that it harms some groups, including the low skilled. The appropriate policy response to immigration‘s negative effects would not be to restrict immigration, which would deny the U.S. economy the overall gains that foreign labor brings, but to seek ways to
help the losers from immigration.


Chairman Reynolds and members of the Commission, my name is Gerald Jaynes and I am Professor in the department of economics and in the department of African American Studies at Yale University. One of my major research interests during the past decade and a half has been immigration and its effects on race and ethnic relations and the economy. It is my pleasure to offer you my thoughts on the economic effects of immigration on the wages and employment of African American workers. My conclusions carry the weight of one whose views have been converted by objective evidence and personal research. Several years past, a colleague (Franklin Wilson—University of Wisconsin) and I were convinced that immigration had profound negative effects on the jobs and wages of African Americans. To ascertain the quantitative effect of immigration, we undertook a large scale statistical analysis of the U.S. labor market. Despite strong convictions for our hypothesis that immigration had large negative effects on black workers in particular, the data forced us to conclude otherwise: negative effects were mostly absent and modest at worst for only a small segment of lowest skilled workers.
Summarizing my views today, I know of no credible analysis separating the effects of documented and undocumented immigration, but the evidence supports the conclusion that from an economic standpoint immigration‘s broader benefits to the nation outweigh its costs. An assessment of the effects of immigration on the employment prospects of less educated native born black workers is that the effect is negative but modest, and probably is significant in some specific industries and geographic locations. A small set of specific labor markets are negatively impacted by undocumented immigration; important examples are meat packing in several areas of the South and Midwest and certain types of construction work throughout the nation. However, the relative importance of less educated black workers‘ job losses due to the competition of immigrants is swamped by a constellation of other factors diminishing their economic status. A significant minority of our most disadvantaged young people persist in low educational achievement, dropping out of high school, and engaging in
negative behaviors such as criminal activity. Substantial improvement of the economic status of disadvantaged African American workers will require considerable change in their social status on many dimensions.

One need not search hard to find disturbing evidence that recent immigrants may exert negative effects on sectors of the U.S. labor market. But how convincing is the evidence?
Social scientists require stronger proof than mere correlation between arriving numbers of immigrants and deteriorating job market conditions for natives. After all, the last four decades of U.S. history have encompassed a host of socioeconomic changes, each of which offers an alternative explanation for the deteriorating economic circumstances of lower skilled black workers. The specifics of the alternatives make the conjecture especially salient for young black males. No remotely credible argument blames immigration for the large and near steady reduction in blue-collar jobs in the U.S. which began during the 1950s. Nor did immigration cause the weakening of labor unions, automation, growth of the computerized information economy, or deteriorating U.S. import-export balances that suck up good paying. And, indeed, social scientists‘ rigorous statistical analyses initially stood upon its head the common sense of straightforward supply and demand theory. Until well into the 1990s, the great preponderance of rigorously designed and executed studies of immigration‘s effects on the economic position of U.S. citizens concluded that the effects were either ambiguous and in any case negligible or that immigrants in fact had a positive effect on the employment and wages of natives. These results held for both skilled and unskilled native-born workers and for women, minorities, and whites. The one demographic group providing an exception to the findings of no negative effects was recent Latino immigrants, who were found to be hurt by those who arrived behind them.The counterintuitive results of this research were explained in the following terms. The job skills brought into the country by less-educated immigrants were complementary to the skills of higher educated and trained natives; therefore immigrants did not compete for natives‘ jobs. On the contrary, the rising supply of immigrant workers ready and able to work hard for low wages is said to spur the expansion of many existing firms and the growth of new firms able to profit from the low wages. The expanding firms based on low wage immigrant labor also hired more skilled native labor as their revenues grew. Janitorial services, car washes, landscapers, and poultry processing plants with growing numbers of employees require more supervisors, clerical workers, accountants, etc. Using this literature, proponents of immigration argued that immigrants in fact improved the working position of natives.
 
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Let the government take over then. FOH if it is 'communism" because housing and food is a HUMAN RIGHT. If the private sector of a few greedy people get out of hand, the government gotta manhandle it like a parent putting an unruly child at their place.

Landlords are huge bytches that deserve less, and they need to be sent away or leave real estate altogether.
Once you mess with price equilibrium in either direction consequences will soon follow. In Austin price of real estate went through the roof and it got to the point that clear headed people refused to pay the outrageous prices and homes on sale started to sit longer until eventually prices had to be lowered until they reached a price consumers were comfortable with and sellers could still make a profit. Those who still refuse to pay don't move to Austin proper but pick places in the surrounding metro where prices are well below the average price of the city limits within Austin before people started to flood the area specifically near downtown. If rent is too high move somewhere that's affordable. If you can barely afford that upgrade your skills. Most people think they should be able to afford rent downtown in a high rise luxury building working 8 hours at McDonald's or Walmart and they ain't even a manager. Living wage is for a real job not something that was intended for teenagers and college kids. People gotta stop making common sense issues into government issues. :yeshrug:
 
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Once you mess with price equilibrium in either direction consequences will soon follow. In Austin price of real estate went through the roof and it got to the point that clear headed people refused to pay the outrageous prices and homes on sale started to sit longer until eventually prices had to be lowered until they reached a price consumers were comfortable with and sellers could still make a profit. Those who still refuse to pay don't move to Austin proper but pick places in the surrounding metro where prices are well below the average price of the city limits within Austin before people started to flood the area specifically near downtown. If rent is too high move somewhere that's affordable. If you can barely afford that upgrade your skills. Most people think they should be able to afford rent downtown in a high rise luxury building working 8 hours at McDonald's or Walmart and they ain't even a manager. Living wage is for a real job not something that was intended for teenagers and college kids. People gotta stop making common sense issues into government issues. :yeshrug:
All that equilibrium talk went out the windows when it was discovered real estate entities were using software to set area rent rates like a damn cartel. That is in no way a free market and is essentially used to tape every dollar they can from consumers. They don't ha e a leg to stand on if gov't got serious
 

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Once you mess with price equilibrium in either direction consequences will soon follow. In Austin price of real estate went through the roof and it got to the point that clear headed people refused to pay the outrageous prices and homes on sale started to sit longer until eventually prices had to be lowered until they reached a price consumers were comfortable with and sellers could still make a profit. Those who still refuse to pay don't move to Austin proper but pick places in the surrounding metro where prices are well below the average price of the city limits within Austin before people started to flood the area specifically near downtown. If rent is too high move somewhere that's affordable. If you can barely afford that upgrade your skills. Most people think they should be able to afford rent downtown in a high rise luxury building working 8 hours at McDonald's or Walmart and they ain't even a manager. Living wage is for a real job not something that was intended for teenagers and college kids. People gotta stop making common sense issues into government issues. :yeshrug:

"upgrade your skills" like being a IT guru or some Hedge Fund Manager :heh:

shyt like that is condescending and reeks of "bootstraps" talk that CACs use against black people.

Fast food became a job for adults when outsourcing became commonplace from the 80s onwards. I don't want a luxury condo, I want a clean place where civilized people with well rounded viewpoints live. In plaes where there are good paying jobs and good quality public transportation. Who said anything about luxury? A basic apartment or condo where the toilet is clean and working, where the kitchen sink works, where there is no rampant crime or poverty.

You justify injustice so everyone gotta be some IT or STEM mastermind to live in a quality of life a mailman worked for just 3 decades ago.
 

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All that equilibrium talk went out the windows when it was discovered real estate entities were using software to set area rent rates like a damn cartel. That is in no way a free market and is essentially used to tape every dollar they can from consumers. They don't ha e a leg to stand on if gov't got serious
Yes things like that are a problem. When you disturbe the price equilibrium you should be punished. Bottom line the government can only do so much before they make issues a lot worse than before.
 
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