Kamala Harris Officially Announces 2020 Presidential Bid - Kamala Bear... GRRRR!!!
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Dude she locks innocent people up to be used as prison labor you gonna vote for that bytch???are these voters fukking retards not able to see trojan horses on the field or what?!?!
Link? I find it interesting that she's not against legalizing weed and anti-capital punishment.
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
Why? Not in a combative way, but there are seriously so many candidates lining up, we haven’t gotten into any actual debates or making people detail/differentiate their platform. Outside of holdover support from previous or local elections (sanders, warren, brown, Beto, etc) I don’t understand how folks can already say who has their vote.
I'm assuming they meant if it's between her and Trump.
Well tbh, fukk Sanders on many issues but especially with his campaign manager being boys with Paulie Manafort and that fukkery.
The rest of those candidates havent said s.hyt so far on marijuana legalization. Until they do, Kamala got my vote.
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
strange issue to pin candidate support to, but do you.
why not? I am not in a legalized state, it is extremely upsetting that black and brown men get harrassed and arrested for marjuana to this day and got criminal records because of marijuana. You're in cali, marijauna legalization may not be a major issue to you cause its legal for yall lol.
AZBeauty
Stop lyin' nicca.
I'm going to take the time to read this thread from the beginning because I was just in the TLR and it seems that a lot of folks don't like her. I see folks taking issue with her being a AG and questioning her black agenda. I'll just say this, she was a AG, what are the expectations of a AG? To prosecute crime right? That's like me having a family member who is a police officer and I get upset because he's locking up black people. Of course if he is egregious, aggressive and shooting black people dead in the streets that a totally different issue but just doing his job? A black agenda? Are we being realistic when we expect black candidates to do things specifically for black people? You think they'll make it through the primary and win a general with a message like that? I might be nice and make us feel good but at the end, we will end up with Trump another 4 years.
I strongly feel that if you want a super black woke politician, you can only get it on a local level and it would make more sense for it to be on a local level because those people are the ones who truly have a direct impact on your life. I don't expect any black politician to run on reparations. I would expect one locally to run on more affordable housing to combat gentrification, more school funding in community of color, adding funds to bring programs to community that will get kids off the street, police reform etc. I need to read more about this criticism of her as I have not selected a candidate to support in the primary and want all the information available. Hell we can make a pro/con thread about all of the Dem's running and get feedback from locals about issues they have with them that we might not be aware of.
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I strongly feel that if you want a super black woke politician, you can only get it on a local level and it would make more sense for it to be on a local level because those people are the ones who truly have a direct impact on your life. I don't expect any black politician to run on reparations. I would expect one locally to run on more affordable housing to combat gentrification, more school funding in community of color, adding funds to bring programs to community that will get kids off the street, police reform etc. I need to read more about this criticism of her as I have not selected a candidate to support in the primary and want all the information available. Hell we can make a pro/con thread about all of the Dem's running and get feedback from locals about issues they have with them that we might not be aware of.
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But this is about the presidential election. You're talking about a state issue that you should take up with your legislature and governor.
AZBeauty
Stop lyin' nicca.
I put DA but I meant AG as she was a prosecutor. And no I don't need you to provide me anything about anyone other than Kamala. I intend to read the thread but if you want to drop some links to make it easy for me, that would be great.
another day of black people tearing down this black women for republicans and racists 
if yall dont like her just keep it moving i dont understand why people spend the most time on people they dont want to vote for
if yall dont like her just keep it moving i dont understand why people spend the most time on people they dont want to vote for
My state will not legalize for many years, I flow back and forth between several states and have lived in states where it also illegal to this day, we cant even properly study marijuana due to it's classification, as she mentioned. It is not just A state, its a several state and a federal issue.
It’s not whether Kamala Harris is ‘black enough,’ critics say, but whether her policies will support native black Americans
by Valerie Russ, Updated: February 11, 2019 - 4:59 AM
DAVID PAUL MORRIS / BLOOMBERG
The day Kamala Harris announced she was running for president, on Martin Luther King Jr. Day, no less, the senator from California seemed primed to dazzle.
If nominated, the daughter of an Indian mother and Jamaican father would be the first black or Indian American woman to run for the White House on a major-party ticket.
Yet, from many black people, there was an outcry. Despite Harris’ being a graduate of Howard University, a top predominantly black university, and a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha, the nation’s oldest black sorority, they questioned whether Harris would prioritize the challenges faced by American descendants of slavery, or #ADOS, casting a light on growing rifts between African Americans in the United States and newer black immigrants.
There was her record as a district attorney and attorney general, which some have categorized as “law and order” — a video has circulated showing Harris laughing while discussing a program she created as attorney general to prosecute poor parents for their truant children. There also is leftover disappointment that President Barack Obama hadn’t adequately addressed issues of black Americans.
“The thrill is gone because the Obama honeymoon is over, and we are never going to vote for people because their face is black again,” said Aaron Smith, a professor of African American studies at Temple University.
And there was her heritage. Does she consider herself black?
“When Jake Tapper on CNN asked her about being a black woman running for president, she responded that she was a woman of color,” Smith said. She has also answered a question about her identity by saying she is a “proud American.”
Many of her Indian American political supporters in California have only recently learned of her Indian heritage, reported the Washington Post.
And in her book, The Truths We Hold, published weeks before she announced her candidacy, Harris calls herself a black woman; in fact, she talks about how her Indian mother knew that people in India would see Harris and her younger sister only as black girls. Requests for comment e-mailed to Kamala Harris’ campaign were not returned.
For #ADOS activists, though, the question is not whether she’s black enough.
“This whole argument that we’re saying she’s not black is really ridiculous,” Yvette Carnell, a cofounder of the #ADOS movement, said in an interview last week. “We’re saying there is a difference in the justice demands for people who are descendants of slaves in this country and those who were enslaved in Jamaica.”
Carnell, a political commentator and creator of the Breaking BrownYoutube show, created the #ADOS hashtag with Antonio Moore, a lawyer, writer and filmmaker with his own Tonetalks Youtube and Dash Radio show.
They said the concept came from their advocacy for policies to address the wealth gap between native-born black Americans and white and other ethnic groups. Where the median white family has wealth of about $100,000, the median black family has wealth of about $10,000, according to a 2014 U.S. Census Bureau survey.
Moore said his concern was that such politicians as Obama and Harris, both descendants of immigrants — although Obama’s mother was a white American — have spoken with clarity about the need for laws to aid immigrants.
“They want to focus on immigration and DACA, but that can’t be our primary issue,” Moore said. “Our dialogue needs to be about American DOS and the lack of opportunities and the lack of jobs and lack of wealth."
Carnell cited research that shows Ivy League schools were admitting a higher percentage of black immigrants than those whose ancestors were enslaved: A study published in the American Journal of Education in 2007 found that immigrants or children of immigrants, while making up 13 percent of the nation’s black 18- and 19-year-olds — accounted for 41 percent of blacks admitted to Ivy League schools.
Many have called the #ADOS movement anti-immigrant. Moore said: “To say that is to ignore the ... struggle that undergirds this group from slavery to Jim Crow to mass incarceration. Our families built America and now suffer because everyone wants to ignore that reality.”
Some say this year — when many African Americans will observe the 400th anniversary of the arrival of the first group of African captives brought to Virginia — would be a key time to question candidates on their positions about redressing the wrongs of slavery.
“Reparations,” said William “Sandy” Darity, an economist at Duke University. “We should be holding politicians’ feet to the fire on this issue. I think it should be a litmus test. “If [Harris] were enthusiastic for the development of a reparations program for black people, whether she is Indian, a woman of color, a Negro, or something else, I wouldn’t care.”
Darity said any form of reparations, whether lump-sum payments or the establishment of a program that lets black people submit proposals to develop businesses, should be restricted to “eligible African Americans,” or those whose ancestors were enslaved in the United States.
He said the other announced Democratic candidates, such as Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Cory Booker, have talked about programs to address economic inequality, such as “baby bonds” or “a guaranteed job.” Also, author and entrepreneur Marianne Williamson, who is running for president, has publicly supported reparations.
Darity noted the injustices went far beyond the time of enslavement, with legal restrictions on basic rights to vote or live in integrated communities lasting until the civil rights movement. Black-owned businesses and homes were being destroyed in race riots, such as when a white mob descended in 1921 in Tulsa, and redlining and federal housing policies stripped black people of the ability to build wealth, all while promoting homeownership for white Americans.
Miranda Alexander, who arrived in Philadelphia about 20 years ago from Trinidad and Tobago, said she’s torn on the Harris issue. The self-described pan Africanist — someone who wants to improve the condition of his or her race, whether in the United States, the Caribbean, or the African continent — is a member of the Mayor’s Commission on African and Caribbean Immigrant Affairs.
“When I first heard [Harris], she was speaking about DACA and I said, ‘This is our girl. This is who we’re rooting for. We’re going to stand by her,’ ” said Alexander, 48.
But she said one of her friends told her about Harris’ record as a prosecutor and decided she had “to see how she’s been treating our people. So now, we’re on a standstill.”
Alexander hadn’t considered herself a Pan Africanist until she came to Philadelphia and learned about such people as the Rev. Leon H. Sullivan and his work to improve the lives of black people in America and in Africa. She was also influenced by meeting the black Philadelphians who as teenagers had marched with Cecil B. Moore to end segregation at Girard College.
In addition, she said, the Caribbean immigrant story has long been connected to the black American story.
“There were so many influential figures in African American history who have Caribbean roots, but many people don’t know that” said Alexander, ticking off a list that included W. E. B. DuBuois; James Weldon Johnson, who wrote the lyrics for “Lift Every Voice and Sing,” the Negro national anthem; and Jean Baptiste Point DuSable, who was the first permanent settler in Chicago. He was born to a French father and Haitian mother.
Alexander said she believes the current tensions are bubbling to the surface because of a lack of leadership among black people.
“We’re not producing the leaders we used to have in the ’60s,” she said, “the type of leader we can attach ourselves to.”
Updated: February 11, 2019 - 4:59 AM
Valerie Russ | @ValerieRussDN |russv@phillynews.com
It’s not whether Kamala Harris is ‘black enough,’ critics say, but whether her policies will support native black Americans
This shyt is starting to build
