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In otherwords, Ray Rice, although better than many of his peers at his position, he's been identified as someone who is "bad for business" and therefore he hasn't been able to secure employment as a running back in the NFL. Period. That pretty much sums it up.

Could he out play some random running back on the Jags, the Giants or who ever else sits on the bench or practice squad? Based on his past history...I don't know, probably. But in terms of PR, he simply isn't worth the risk or the investment in place of someone else who doesn't bring bad publicity to the team.

.regardless of what message YOU thought he was sending and regardless of how harmless or noble his actions were from your perspective, many of the teams in the league see an investment in Kaep as "bad for business."

It's really just that simple.

So you can yell "White Supremacy" this and "White Supremacy" that...but the reality of the situation is that there are some people who the league simply sees as someone who is "bad for business" regardless of how qualified they are. Whether it's someone arrested for DV, or someone arrested for DUI or smoking weed...or someone who "protests" political points by taking a knee during the anthem, wearing Fidel Castro shirts to press conferences or socks with cops dressed as pigs...that's just what they see ; it is what it is.

For reasons strictly related to business, the "shield" really just doesn't want to appear as if it endorses or condones certain behavior.

How you can't see that is beyond me.

And the NFL isn't unique in this perspective, just about any job out there is like this in some way shape or form.
Why are you even talking about Ray RICE in the first place? Were talking about Colin Kappernick. You are taking Ray Rice and his domestic violence situation and super imposing that onto him and acting like it's all the same.

Are you retarded tho :wtf:

How is standing up to police brutality bad for business. Listen to yourself, how is standing up for justice bad. Who says that other than a racist? You put too much stock in racist thought. You know what's bad for business? The opposite of what you're saying. Which is why we are where we are today :ufdup: wake up...
the 49ers won 2 games last year with him starting bruh....
The 49ers won 2 games not the San Fran Kappernickerbockers. How did he play in those games, statistically speaking he played good. You ignore that while accepting any and every reason for why lesser QB's should have a job. Not a good look, if you are being sincere then it's a personality flaw :ufdup:
The reports of them about to sign him are from one source as well as are reports about him turning down teams or asking too much
These reports come from the crack of a cac. He's been offered nothing and this is well known :camby:
Beat?

He hit his wife when he was drunk and she was being physical with him....
So this is the new defection tactic, let's talk about Ray Rice instead? I'll play along. You have to know the situation. In rays case, he was in the wrong, You don't knockout your spouse. You don't knock out woman if you a man, you don't fight a man if he don't want none or is tiny. If you feel Ray rice was in the right well that is a knock against you and you should stop talking...
Tim tebow led a team to the playoffs and won, and was released that same year.


B-b-but.....
Because they signed Peyton Manning :stopitslime:

Thank you for exposing yourself as just a troll, I feel I've done enough to reveal your true purpose in this thread. Have a splendid day...
 

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I’ve already said that without the distractions he would most definitely be on a team, most likely as a backup. But at least on an nfl roster.

All you need to do is read what I’ve already stated in here.

And no, kap isn’t on cams level at all.


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I broke down every single team in the league, go quote that post bruh.
Your list was very cacurate :krs:

You felt he wasn't better than Tannenhill, and didn't even give him opportunities at places he would have had chances at like Tennessee. You had Mariotta slotted in there even tho he been inured. You said he only had a mild shot at 3 teams. I appreciate you demonstrating white supremacy so those who are unaware of how it works can see it first hand :handshake:
 

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Ok, it seems like a lot of people are in their feelings about this topic which i understand but he has no legal case. Cbs is reporting that his suit is going to focus on trump, which is insane because he would have to prove that multiple owners conspired with one another using Trump as a middle man without subpoena power because this is not a trial, it is arbitration not a trial. Also, he is going to have to prove that teams were heavily interested in him before Trump opened his mouth and that is not true, this was maybe two or three teams in the market for a qb at the beginning of the off season before the injuries and the niners were one of them. The decider of this case is going to be chosen by the nfl and the nflpa not kaep this is happening under the current nfl cba so this weird mention of the justice department makes no sense, the justice department has nothing to do with this. This is a labor dispute, and after this fails he could go to the NLRB and federally appeal the decision of the independent arbitrator but federal judges typically don't reverse those decisions.

Colin Kaepernick's collusion grievance against NFL centered on Trump's influence

Now, what is this weird thing about Kaep being a high level qb. He is an average to below average qb and everyone using the 16 to 4 td stats argument is picking low hanging fruit because they never watched the man play after the 2012, 2013 season. One of which he didn't even play a complete season he replaced an injured alex smith, also people are forgetting that the niners were already favored to make it to the superbowl at the beginning of that 2012 season with alex smith at qb and the niners were in the 2011 nfc championship and if it isn't for two minor strokes by kyle williams during two punt returns :martin: they win that game and go to the superbowl. He has been terrible from 2014 to 2016, is he better than some qbs on rosters yes but acting like he is leaps and bounds better than blake bortles is hilarous and that stats by PFF show that.

Metrics that Matter: Just how good (or not) is Colin Kaepernick? | Fantasy Analysis | Pro Football Focus
 

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He is a back up at this point in his career. The nfl has figured him out and he has not progressed as a pocket passer. Mariotta and Newton has the nfl blackballing him is bs but he is not a franchise qb. Two things can be true at the same time.
 

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He is a back up at this point in his career. The nfl has figured him out and he has not progressed as a pocket passer. Mariotta and Newton has the nfl blackballing him is bs but he is not a franchise qb. Two things can be true at the same time.

You're an idiot. "figured him out" WTF are you talking about? A QB plays in an offense. An OFFENSE can be figured out. Not a damn player. A player functions within the offense. Yall say some really dumb shyt. He got injured, then his entire team got dismantled and then the idiots say things like "he got figured out". Is this nikka a rubix cube? What was there to figure out? There was a purge of talent around him from coaches down to players and his play suffered for it.

Then last year he put up starter caliber numbers with the worst team in the league. That same team with a gifted play caller, better receivers, oline is 0-5 and has benched their starting QB.

Kaep put up good numbers with an INFERIOR team and then you say he got "figured out"? Did Big Ben get figured out? Matt Ryan? Cam? Rivers? Dalton?

16TD 4INT 91 QB Rating coming off of season ending surgery with Jeremy Kerley as his #1 receiver and you have the audacity to post that nonsense? Is he a franchise QB? He's out of the league so I guess he isn't. But that is more to do with the complete mess the 9ers became in 2-3 years. Elite coach leaves, is replaced by a position coach who has no business coaching, then the talent from the team is removed. QB gets injured and then we got fools saying he got "figured out".

Miss me with that bullshyt.

Kaep can't start and has been figured out in a league that has Glennon, Cutler, Fitzpatrick, McCoun, Bortles, Flacco, etc as starters. :pacspit:
 

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You're an idiot. "figured him out" WTF are you talking about? A QB plays in an offense. An OFFENSE can be figured out. Not a damn player. A player functions within the offense. Yall say some really dumb shyt. He got injured, then his entire team got dismantled and then the idiots say things like "he got figured out". Is this nikka a rubix cube? What was there to figure out? There was a purge of talent around him from coaches down to players and his play suffered for it.

Then last year he put up starter caliber numbers with the worst team in the league. That same team with a gifted play caller, better receivers, oline is 0-5 and has benched their starting QB.

Kaep put up good numbers with an INFERIOR team and then you say he got "figured out"? Did Big Ben get figured out? Matt Ryan? Cam? Rivers? Dalton?

16TD 4INT 91 QB Rating coming off of season ending surgery with Jeremy Kerley as his #1 receiver and you have the audacity to post that nonsense? Is he a franchise QB? He's out of the league so I guess he isn't. But that is more to do with the complete mess the 9ers became in 2-3 years. Elite coach leaves, is replaced by a position coach who has no business coaching, then the talent from the team is removed. QB gets injured and then we got fools saying he got "figured out".

Miss me with that bullshyt.

All this emotion. Kaep is a one read qb, meaning that defenses regularly take away his first read and force him to read the entire field which he struggles to do leading to lots of sacks, in fact i posted an earlier link detailing that fact. Furthermore, he stares down his targets and can't throw wr's open, like a big ben or a matt ryan, or a cam newton. A player can be figured out because all players have tendencies and flaws within their game if you cared to actually watch him play instead of cherry picking stats to boost your argument. Also, he got injured during the packers game during the third quarter in 2015 after getting blown out by steelers and throwing two pick sixes against the cardinals. Also, in 2016 Jeremy Kerley was not his #1 receiver Torrey Smith was Kaep just couldn't utilize him because he can't read a defense or throw people open or put any touch on the ball.

Go back and review those box scores the niners scored majority of their points in the first half and after the defenses adjusted and took away his first read and forced him to read the field which he struggles to do. Also, in 2014 kaep had crabtree, stevie johnson, boldin, and vernon davis and struggled the entire year going 8-8 with that elite coach which is debatable with the talent he inherited. In 2015 he had boldin and smith and davis still before he was traded and was still struggling so miss me with he had no recivers. Outside of branch how many wr's can you name that tom brady played with from the top of your head that won super bowls with him? Cam Newton made it to a superbowl with Ted Ginn Jr. as his #1 receiver after benjamin tore his acl in the preseason. Did Tomsula have any business being a head coach no but they did elevate his qb coach as offense coordinator so it wasn't like he was giving a brand new system to learn.
 

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All this emotion. Kaep is a one read qb, meaning that defenses regularly take away his first read and force him to read the entire field which he struggles to do leading to lots of sacks, in fact i posted an earlier link detailing that fact. Furthermore, he stares down his targets and can't throw wr's open, like a big ben or a matt ryan, or a cam newton. A player can be figured out because all players have tendencies and flaws within their game if you cared to actually watch him play instead of cherry picking stats to boost your argument. Also, he got injured during the packers game during the third quarter in 2015 after getting blown out by steelers and throwing two pick sixes against the cardinals. Also, in 2016 Jeremy Kerley was not his #1 receiver Torrey Smith was Kaep just couldn't utilize him because he can't read a defense or throw people open or put any touch on the ball.

Go back and review those box scores the niners scored majority of their points in the first half and after the defenses adjusted and took away his first read and forced him to read the field which he struggles to do. Also, in 2014 kaep had crabtree, stevie johnson, boldin, and vernon davis and struggled the entire year going 8-8 with that elite coach which is debatable with the talent he inherited. In 2015 he had boldin and smith and davis still before he was traded and was still struggling so miss me with he had no recivers. Outside of branch how many wr's can you name that tom brady played with from the top of your head that won super bowls with him? Cam Newton made it to a superbowl with Ted Ginn Jr. as his #1 receiver after benjamin tore his acl in the preseason. Did Tomsula have any business being a head coach no but they did elevate his qb coach as offense coordinator so it wasn't like he was giving a brand new system to learn.
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Not really, the bad team argument does not work if you are going to bring up qbs on bad teams like blake bortles and the superbowl appearance argument is dubious at best and only ignore the fact that alex smith almost got them to a superbowl the year before and didn't because of kyle williams' foolishness.

You're an idiot. "figured him out" WTF are you talking about? A QB plays in an offense. An OFFENSE can be figured out. Not a damn player. A player functions within the offense. Yall say some really dumb shyt. He got injured, then his entire team got dismantled and then the idiots say things like "he got figured out". Is this nikka a rubix cube? What was there to figure out? There was a purge of talent around him from coaches down to players and his play suffered for it.

Then last year he put up starter caliber numbers with the worst team in the league. That same team with a gifted play caller, better receivers, oline is 0-5 and has benched their starting QB.

Kaep put up good numbers with an INFERIOR team and then you say he got "figured out"? Did Big Ben get figured out? Matt Ryan? Cam? Rivers? Dalton?

16TD 4INT 91 QB Rating coming off of season ending surgery with Jeremy Kerley as his #1 receiver and you have the audacity to post that nonsense? Is he a franchise QB? He's out of the league so I guess he isn't. But that is more to do with the complete mess the 9ers became in 2-3 years. Elite coach leaves, is replaced by a position coach who has no business coaching, then the talent from the team is removed. QB gets injured and then we got fools saying he got "figured out".

Miss me with that bullshyt.

Kaep can't start and has been figured out in a league that has Glennon, Cutler, Fitzpatrick, McCoun, Bortles, Flacco, etc as starters. :pacspit:

Also, the personal attacks aren't necessary. If leading a team to a superbowl appearance can be an argument for continued employment. Surely, winning a Superbowl which Flacco did do can be an argument as well. The dolphins are winning with Cutler and i agree that Kaep is better than alot of back up qbs and fringe starters in the nfl. As i have stated earlier i believe he should be giving an opportunity to play again, after this lawsuit that isn't ever going to happen but my issue is people acting like he is the second coming of Joe Montana because he is not.
 
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