Kaepernick has filed a lawsuit against the NFL. Edit: Kaepernick trying to blow the system up.Salute

JLova

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All this emotion. Kaep is a one read qb, meaning that defenses regularly take away his first read and force him to read the entire field which he struggles to do leading to lots of sacks, in fact i posted an earlier link detailing that fact. Furthermore, he stares down his targets and can't throw wr's open, like a big ben or a matt ryan, or a cam newton. A player can be figured out because all players have tendencies and flaws within their game if you cared to actually watch him play instead of cherry picking stats to boost your argument. Also, he got injured during the packers game during the third quarter in 2015 after getting blown out by steelers and throwing two pick sixes against the cardinals. Also, in 2016 Jeremy Kerley was not his #1 receiver Torrey Smith was Kaep just couldn't utilize him because he can't read a defense or throw people open or put any touch on the ball.

Go back and review those box scores the niners scored majority of their points in the first half and after the defenses adjusted and took away his first read and forced him to read the field which he struggles to do. Also, in 2014 kaep had crabtree, stevie johnson, boldin, and vernon davis and struggled the entire year going 8-8 with that elite coach which is debatable with the talent he inherited. In 2015 he had boldin and smith and davis still before he was traded and was still struggling so miss me with he had no recivers. Outside of branch how many wr's can you name that tom brady played with from the top of your head that won super bowls with him? Cam Newton made it to a superbowl with Ted Ginn Jr. as his #1 receiver after benjamin tore his acl in the preseason. Did Tomsula have any business being a head coach no but they did elevate his qb coach as offense coordinator so it wasn't like he was giving a brand new system to learn.

God you're dumb. Nikka, no one is saying Kaep is Brady level. Are you retarded? Cam got to that SB on the back of his D. What in the fukk are you talking about? Torey is not a #1 receiver.

You sound like a typical ignorant, WHITE poster on the 9er board. Same exact talking points. GTFOH
 

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Not really, the bad team argument does not work if you are going to bring up qbs on bad teams like blake bortles and the superbowl appearance argument is dubious at best and only ignore the fact that alex smith almost got them to a superbowl the year before and didn't because of kyle williams' foolishness.

What the fukk are you talking about?

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The “bad team argument” doesn’t work when Kaep puts up numbers but somehow the team’s lack of success means the league figured him out?

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Not really, the bad team argument does not work if you are going to bring up qbs on bad teams like blake bortles and the superbowl appearance argument is dubious at best and only ignore the fact that alex smith almost got them to a superbowl the year before and didn't because of kyle williams' foolishness.



Also, the personal attacks aren't necessary. If leading a team to a superbowl appearance can be an argument for continued employment. Surely, winning a Superbowl which Flacco did do can be an argument as well. The dolphins are winning with Cutler and i agree that Kaep is better than alot of back up qbs and fringe starters in the nfl. As i have stated earlier i believe he should be giving an opportunity to play again, after this lawsuit that isn't ever going to happen but my issue is people acting like he is the second coming of Joe Montana because he is not.

You deserve the personal attacks because you're talking pure shyt. Who called him Montana? Who even called him Pro-Bowl level? The point is he is better than a number of starters in the league. Cutler is ASS! Don't down Kaep and then bring up cutler. Cutler is WINNING because he has a top 10 defense. You see how that works?

Cutler: 5TD 73 QB rating in 5 games. Yea, the Dolphins are winning off the strength of his arm :skip: Stop talking.

Claim a QB has been figured out yet big up a QB with inferior talent and numbers. :pacspit:
 

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What the fukk are you talking about?

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The “bad team argument” doesn’t work when Kaep puts up numbers but somehow the team’s lack of success means the league figured him out?

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Kaep's number's are mediocre, the offense regularly stalled due to his performance in the pocket. Kaep is one of the most sacked qb's in the nfl because he has no pocket awareness, he gets happy feet and manuevers into pressure regularly putting the offense behind the chains and forcing the defense in bad positions. Now here is the important part of how offense and defense are related especially in chip kelly's offense, which was supposed to be the best possible fit for kaep. Because of all the stalled drives the defense was on the field way too long and resulted into them getting tired and giving up big plays.
 

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You deserve the personal attacks because you're talking pure shyt. Who called him Montana? Who even called him Pro-Bowl level? The point is he is better than a number of starters in the league. Cutler is ASS! Don't down Kaep and then bring up cutler. Cutler is WINNING because he has a top 10 defense. You see how that works?

Cutler: 5TD 73 QB rating in 5 games. Yea, the Dolphins are winning off the strength of his arm :skip: Stop talking.

Claim a QB has been figured out yet big up a QB with inferior talent and numbers. :pacspit:

Gase trusts Cutler, Cutler isn't good but Kaep isn't leaps and bounds better. When Kaep had a top ten defense he was winning too, you see how that works. If you think Kaep could fit into what Gase is currently running you are insane and have not watched him try to operate out of the pocket. Cutler is better in the pocket than Kaep is and is sacked less. Cutler is Ass and Kaep is mediocre. Also, go back and read the thread multiple people are acting that he is a pro bowl level talent which is what i am referring too.
 

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Kaep's number's are mediocre, the offense regularly stalled due to his performance in the pocket. Kaep is one of the most sacked qb's in the nfl because he has no pocket awareness, he gets happy feet and manuevers into pressure regularly putting the offense behind the chains and forcing the defense in bad positions. Now here is the important part of how offense and defense are related especially in chip kelly's offense, which was supposed to be the best possible fit for kaep. Because of all the stalled drives the defense was on the field way too long and resulted into them getting tired and giving up big plays.
None of this is true or backed up by evidence of any kind.

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Kaep’s mobility is precisely what makes him infinitely more valuable than these cac losers like Cutler and Bortles.

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Kaep's number's are mediocre, the offense regularly stalled due to his performance in the pocket. Kaep is one of the most sacked qb's in the nfl because he has no pocket awareness, he gets happy feet and manuevers into pressure regularly putting the offense behind the chains and forcing the defense in bad positions. Now here is the important part of how offense and defense are related especially in chip kelly's offense, which was supposed to be the best possible fit for kaep. Because of all the stalled drives the defense was on the field way too long and resulted into them getting tired and giving up big plays.

Pretty sure Alex Smith was named to the pro bowl with the same numbers over a full season. You're not sufficiently equipped to have this argument.
 

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None of this is true or backed up by evidence of any kind.

:mjlol:



Kaep’s mobility is precisely what makes him infinitely more valuable than these cac losers like Cutler and Bortles.

:mjlol:



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Metrics that Matter: Just how good (or not) is Colin Kaepernick? | Fantasy Analysis | Pro Football Focus
posted it earlier, actually read it and get back to me. Really, 2012 when no one had much experience dealing with the read option and the packers had no idea how to deal with it.


we both can do this, and Tomsula said that he can audible out of any play he had that prerogative
 

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Pretty sure Alex Smith was named to the pro bowl with the same numbers over a full season. You're not sufficiently equipped to have this argument.

Replacement due to peyton being in the superbowl that year and brady being injured in 2013 try again. Unless you mean 2016 in that case he was chosen for the same reason with Brady being in the superbowl, Carr and Rothlesberger being injured then try again.
 

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Metrics that Matter: Just how good (or not) is Colin Kaepernick? | Fantasy Analysis | Pro Football Focus
posted it earlier, actually read it and get back to me. Really, 2012 when no one had much experience dealing with the read option and the packers had no idea how to deal with it.


we both can do this, and Tomsula said that he can audible out of any play he had that prerogative

:mjlol::mjlol:

WOAT posting.
I’m amazed PFF even posted that garbage.

OMG Kaep took a sack rather than force risky low reward throws? To receivers with the highest drop percentage in the league?

fukk off, fakkit

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:mjlol::mjlol:

WOAT posting.
I’m amazed PFF even posted that garbage.

OMG Kaep took a sack rather than force risky low reward throws? To receivers with the highest drop percentage in the league?

fukk off, fakkit

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Whelp this is leading nowhere, just going to ignore you now because you clearly have very low reading comprehension skills. :hubie: Enjoy your night.
 

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Your list was very cacurate :krs:

You felt he wasn't better than Tannenhill, and didn't even give him opportunities at places he would have had chances at like Tennessee. You had Mariotta slotted in there even tho he been inured. You said he only had a mild shot at 3 teams. I appreciate you demonstrating white supremacy so those who are unaware of how it works can see it first hand :handshake:

This is getting tiring bruh.
I said BEFORE the season started those were the breakdowns of each team.

And kap isn’t nor has he ever been better than tannehill.

I know you don’t watch the games so I’ll give you some leeway here, but the least you can do is read what I said instead of being so quick to hit reply with your “cac this” and “cac that” bs

You tryin to hard bruh.
 

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You're an idiot. "figured him out" WTF are you talking about? A QB plays in an offense. An OFFENSE can be figured out. Not a damn player. A player functions within the offense. Yall say some really dumb shyt. He got injured, then his entire team got dismantled and then the idiots say things like "he got figured out". Is this nikka a rubix cube? What was there to figure out? There was a purge of talent around him from coaches down to players and his play suffered for it.

Then last year he put up starter caliber numbers with the worst team in the league. That same team with a gifted play caller, better receivers, oline is 0-5 and has benched their starting QB.

Kaep put up good numbers with an INFERIOR team and then you say he got "figured out"? Did Big Ben get figured out? Matt Ryan? Cam? Rivers? Dalton?

16TD 4INT 91 QB Rating coming off of season ending surgery with Jeremy Kerley as his #1 receiver and you have the audacity to post that nonsense? Is he a franchise QB? He's out of the league so I guess he isn't. But that is more to do with the complete mess the 9ers became in 2-3 years. Elite coach leaves, is replaced by a position coach who has no business coaching, then the talent from the team is removed. QB gets injured and then we got fools saying he got "figured out".

Miss me with that bullshyt.

Kaep can't start and has been figured out in a league that has Glennon, Cutler, Fitzpatrick, McCoun, Bortles, Flacco, etc as starters. :pacspit:
Bruh, players get figured out all the time. You kidding me?

ESPECIALLY qbs.

Much better QBs (like the ones you mentioned) are able to change it up, and don’t get figured out as easily cuz they are more than a one trick pony.
Kap is a one read and run qb, defenses have figured it out. He hasn’t been able to change that up.

Funny how you want to mention stats for bigging up kap, but completely dismiss bortles stats when talking about him. Dude has almost 60 tds and over 8000 yards passing the last two years(not including this one) on a terrible team, with terrible coaching.

Glennon, McCown, cutler, Fitzpatrick, etc. Are not number one options on their teams. They are backups, that were forced to start. Is kap better than them, I’d probably say yes.
 

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One or two wouldn't be enough when filing against the ENTIRE LEAGUE.

Understand these are privately owned franchises and like with any job, an employer call up your references to find out if the applicant is suitable for the position. So on owner talking to another over whether or not to sign Kaepernick isn't enough. It HAS to be a total conspiracy by the NFL as a whole. This is what he filed grievance against. Collusion by the NFL. Not by a team like Dallas, the Bears, and the Titans. Not random teams, but the league itself. That mean EVERY OWNER colluded with Goodell for a blackball on him. Which is again impossible to prove. And it's about PROOF, not speculation or assumption.
they need 14 teams to dissolve the CBA

But its a hard case to prove. I think the publicity of private information is what is most important here and the NFL may want to settle because of that.
 
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