Kaepernick has filed a lawsuit against the NFL. Edit: Kaepernick trying to blow the system up.Salute

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wow, you serious? did you not read when I said this.....and I'll quote..



So save the Buffoon nonsense for ppl that don't actually failed comprehension class bruh.

Edit: naw fukk it, I ain't gonna change it LMAO.
So according to you..
fukk the fact HE IS BETTER than other QB's both starting and on the bench.. fukk winning cuz.. he wasnt Equal Rights and thats too messy... right?
 

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because his reward isn't worth the risk.

His talent doesn't overcome his distraction.
you sound like a white person B..
not on that "Cac" shyt they on here/// but your response shows why people jus say CAC.. cuz yall muther fukkers dont get it.. its like CRAZY how fukking blind yall are to the shyt...
 

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He's not employed because he beat the shyt out of his fiance and the video of that was made available. Anti domestic violence is a good stance

Kappernick is anti violence as well, but he's being punished for that. Tell me sir, why would you equate one as the same as the other? That's some "both sides" talk. You sounding insane right now...

No, why would you even think that? Did she break a law? Is her reaction to the NFL practising discrimination worse than the NFL practising discrimination?

Is taking a knee worse than shooting unarmed black people?
In otherwords, Ray Rice, although better than many of his peers at his position, he's been identified as someone who is "bad for business" and therefore he hasn't been able to secure employment as a running back in the NFL. Period. That pretty much sums it up.

Could he out play some random running back on the Jags, the Giants or who ever else sits on the bench or practice squad? Based on his past history...I don't know, probably. But in terms of PR, he simply isn't worth the risk or the investment in place of someone else who doesn't bring bad publicity to the team.

.regardless of what message YOU thought he was sending and regardless of how harmless or noble his actions were from your perspective, many of the teams in the league see an investment in Kaep as "bad for business."

It's really just that simple.

So you can yell "White Supremacy" this and "White Supremacy" that...but the reality of the situation is that there are some people who the league simply sees as someone who is "bad for business" regardless of how qualified they are. Whether it's someone arrested for DV, or someone arrested for DUI or smoking weed...or someone who "protests" political points by taking a knee during the anthem, wearing Fidel Castro shirts to press conferences or socks with cops dressed as pigs...that's just what they see ; it is what it is.

For reasons strictly related to business, the "shield" really just doesn't want to appear as if it endorses or condones certain behavior.

How you can't see that is beyond me.

And the NFL isn't unique in this perspective, just about any job out there is like this in some way shape or form.
 
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So according to you..
fukk the fact HE IS BETTER than other QB's both starting and on the bench.. fukk winning cuz.. he wasnt Equal Rights and thats too messy... right?
the 49ers won 2 games last year with him starting bruh....
 

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I guess if you're looking for something to disagree then you'll find something, anything regardless of how insignificant. Overall it doesn't change the argument that Vick was worth the chance while Kaep has pretty much been deemed that he isn't.

I'm an Eagles fan from way back and remember the time very well, you're patently wrong and lack historical context in how you're explaining this. The Eagles picked up Vick in 2009, McNabb left in 2010. The Eagles were done with Mcnabb by the time Vick got on the team, despite McNabb's success for the franchise, they were ready to move on him and with Andy Reid (he left in 2012). Neither Kevin Kolb or AJ Feely were considered "once in a life time" talents compared to Vick. Neither Kevin Kolb or AJ Feely are in the league BTW. Vick went on to start for the following four seasons that he played for the Eagles Not AJ Feely or Kevin Kolb, so YES they were angling for a competitive high caliber QB...you're totally wrong in that respect.

And I didn't say the "league minimum" I alluded to the league minimum based on his experience, regardless of how numerically accurate it is, ...he went from a 9-year $130 million deal in Atlanta to a 2-year $1.5 with $5 million in his second year. Either way you slice the arithmetic, it's a significant cost/benefit difference. SO the point still stands, they got him at a bargain, and there's a good chance that no team would have signed him if he demanded a similar salary to his old contract.

The only note worthy point is about the Bengals...which I wasn't aware of. Everything else is pretty off.

The career arcs of Vick, Kolb (side note thank fukking god Vick replaced him, was never a fan of his), or AJ Feeley (a career 3rd stringer who amazingly produced a 2nd round pick in a trade) after 2009 have absolutely zero to do with and are irrelevant to the controversy surrounding if/with what team Vick would sign with in 2009. I'm not finding something to disagree with for the sake of arguing; I'm stating what actually was happening at that point in the summer of 2009. No spin, no bs, no trolling.

The Eagles were not looking for a franchise QB in 2009 because at that time, Kolb was being groomed as the replacement to take over for McNabb eventually given they invested a high 2nd rounder on him. McNabb BTW was traded by the Eagles 4 months after Andy Reid said McNabb would be the starting QB for the 2010 season; he didn't leave on his own accord to join Washington. Even then, Kolb was the starter and the only reason he lost his job was the emergence of Vick while hurt.
 

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I've said it a million times on here...he's good enough to be in the league...but his controversy is bigger than his talent. It's bad for business. Plenty of players (non-race related) have been left on the side of the road for similar reasons.

Name one player that was WHITE that controversy lost them an opportunity??

and why is Racial EQUALITY a distraction...
 
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cuz the media circus died down significantly by the time Vick came back.

But you are kinda proving my point, a team will take a chance on someone that has Vick's skill level if they think he can win them games, regardless of the surroundings.

Kap never had the skill of Vick.

This is all wrong. Chase Utley wife was literally outside of the Novacare center protesting against Vick. Nothing died down.


And before you start this bullshyt narrative that Vick was better. Take a look at Vick stats before he signed with Andy Reid. They are worse that Kaeps. Statistically much worse. Athletically Vick maybe better but Kaep is a much better skill wise than Vick at the same points in time.
 

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the 49ers won 2 games last year with him starting bruh....

WTF are you talking about? Or are you actually blaming him for not being able to win games on his own despite having the WORST DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE and the only defence to average giving up over 30pts a game?

I can accept differing opinions, but not nonsense.
 

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The ravens didn't need to sign him, there were other teams that really needed his services. If an NFL team desired to win and needed a player, a Photoshop by a players wife isn't reason enough to say "sorry team, sorry city, but we're not gonna get the best talent available because of a Photoshop" :stop:

If they was really serious they would have brought him in, talked to him like a man, his wife would have made an apology via Twitter, that's how adults handle business. So can we cut out the bullshyt versions of reality that suit white supremacist way of thought :francis:
The reports of them about to sign him are from one source as well as are reports about him turning down teams or asking too much
 

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The career arcs of Vick, Kolb (side note thank fukking god Vick replaced him, was never a fan of his), or AJ Feeley (a career 3rd stringer who amazingly produced a 2nd round pick in a trade) after 2009 have absolutely zero to do with and are irrelevant to the controversy surrounding if/with what team Vick would sign with in 2009. I'm not finding something to disagree with for the sake of arguing; I'm stating what actually was happening at that point in the summer of 2009. No spin, no bs, no trolling.

The Eagles were not looking for a franchise QB in 2009 because at that time, Kolb was being groomed as the replacement to take over for McNabb eventually given they invested a high 2nd rounder on him. McNabb BTW was traded by the Eagles 4 months after Andy Reid said McNabb would be the starting QB for the 2010 season; he didn't leave on his own accord to join Washington. Even then, Kolb was the starter and the only reason he lost his job was the emergence of Vick while hurt.
THis is sidetracking the discussion, so I had to put things in their proper perspective. Your initial argument is that the Eagles were perfectly happy with their QB situation with McNabb in 2009 (after citing his success in the previous year) despite the fact that they traded him and placed Vick as the starter the following season. You're just simply wrong. The Eagles knew McNabb would be out of there, and the Eagles had every expectation that Vick would compete for the starting position with Kolb if they picked him up and that is exactly what happened. They saw a high caliber talent at a rock bottom price, evaluated their options and went for it. Everyone (fans included) at the time knew that Vick would most likely be the starter. The Eagles were definitely NOT satisfied with Kolb as a possible McNabb replacement, otherwise they wouldn't have picked up Vick in the first place which would have stirred a QB controversy. Any injury that Kolb had wouldn't have mattered at all. He wasn't on Vick's level. The coaching staff knew it, the fans knew it and Kevin Kolb knew it himself.

And the Kevin Kolb situation isn't as clean as you're making it out to be. Kolb was an Andy Reid guy, but he wasn't considered a "franchise QB" with high expectations, he was someone who fit within his system. He wasn't expected to be a unique talent of any kind which is precisely why when Andy Reid left (or was expected to leave), Kolb was traded around that time. Coincidence? Nope.
 
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He's not employed because he beat the shyt out of his fiance and the video of that was made available. Anti domestic violence is a good stance

Kappernick is anti violence as well, but he's being punished for that. Tell me sir, why would you equate one as the same as the other? That's some "both sides" talk. You sounding insane right now...

No, why would you even think that? Did she break a law? Is her reaction to the NFL practising discrimination worse than the NFL practising discrimination?

Is taking a knee worse than shooting unarmed black people?
Beat?

He hit his wife when he was drunk and she was being physical with him....
 
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THis is sidetracking the discussion, so I had to put things in their proper perspective. Your initial argument is that the Eagles were perfectly happy with their QB situation with McNabb in 2009 (after citing his success in the previous year) despite the fact that they traded him and placed Vick as the starter the following season. You're just simply wrong. The Eagles knew McNabb would be out of there, and the Eagles had every expectation that Vick would compete for the starting position with Kolb if they picked him up and that is exactly what happened. They saw a high caliber talent at a rock bottom price, evaluated their options and went for it. Everyone (fans included) at the time knew that Vick would most likely be the starter. The Eagles were definitely NOT satisfied with Kolb as a possible McNabb replacement, otherwise they wouldn't have picked up Vick in the first place which would have stirred a QB controversy. Any injury that Kolb had wouldn't have mattered at all. He wasn't on Vick's level. The coaching staff knew it, the fans knew it and Kevin Kolb knew it himself.

And the Kevin Kolb situation isn't as clean as you're making it out to be. Kolb was an Andy Reid guy, but he wasn't considered a "franchise QB" with high expectations, he was someone who fit within his system. He wasn't expected to be a unique talent of any kind which is precisely why when Andy Reid left (or was expected to leave), Kolb was traded around that time. Coincidence? Nope.

You can't be an Eagles fan. This is all wrong.
 
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