Kaepernick has filed a lawsuit against the NFL. Edit: Kaepernick trying to blow the system up.Salute

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backup Qb's have typically been one of two ppl:

1) the young guy, that is coming up next and is just learning the system. (Aaron Rodgers)

2) the vet that is there to help the next guy, coach him up and just be there in the locker room, film room. (Matt Moore).


Kap is more than talented enough to be a back up Qb. but with the media circus surrounding him, is that type of distraction worth it for your team for a player that probably won't get much field time?
many teams didn't think so.

he does have NFL talent, there is no doubt he can play. But he's an average starter, and not too many places in the league he can actually go right now and start.

if there wasn't this media circus surrounding him I have no doubt he'd be on a team in some capacity. but for many teams, the risk wasn't worth the reward.

Teams have proven time and time again, that they will take a media circus if the player has the talent to play (Chad Johnson, Terrell Owens, etc.) shyt teams will even take on scumbags like Ray lewis if they can contribute to the win.

Same was said about Michael Vick in 2009 before the Eagles signed him. Vick and Kaep at their respective times were more than talented enough to be back-up QB's in the league and had media circuses surrounding them. So why is it that an owner to take a chance on Michael Vick, who served 23 months in a federal prison for felony dogfighting conspiracy charges but not ok for an owner to take a chance on Kaep, who would be an upgrade to most backup QB positions in the league?
 

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I usually don't feed trolls, which is clearly what you are and we all know it, but I'll bite. These are the significant upgrades

Trevor Siemian
Jay Cutler
Deshone Kizer/Kevin Hogan
Brett Hundley (now that he's a starter)
Brian Hoyer/CJ Beathard
Eli Manning
Blake Bortles

If I had more time I'm sure I could make a case for Rivers (been terrible since last year), McNown, and Rothelisburger (been terrible since last season).

As far as why they'd take the circus, they were ok with Riley Cooper saying he'd fight every ****** at a country concert. They were ok with taken a kicker who beat his wife. Dante Stallworth killed a guy and they were cool with it. None of those people have the talent level of Kaep, but their teams kept them. Those old rich men don't give a fukk about no one being a circus if they can help their team. The reason they wanted Kaep out was to set an example for any other player that got out of line.

Significant?
Ok let's see.....

Trevor Siemian? meh, that's arguable. His second year was similar to kapernicks better years. Plus he's still young and learning

Jay Cutler - Absolutely I think Kap is better than him. But with this you are missing context. Tannehill IS the dolphins future. He just went down in August, Gase and Cutler worked together recently and Cutler knew the system so it was easier to bring him in with short time before the season. If tannehill was out before OTA and they didn't bring in Kap then that would be something different for sure.

Kizer - He's a second round pick, you are building or the future.

Hundley - was never projected to be the starter, ever.

Hoyer - Kap was on the 49ers already.....how did that work out?

Eli - Giants would never let him go, loyalty on both sides, eventhough Eli is waning left.

Bortles - Playing on a bad team (kap gets a pass, why not bortles?) , but the biggest thing here is that his cap hit is like 25 million over this year and next. I think they will ride him out until then. His stats show that he can play, and he can ball out, he's just very inconsistent.

But the Steelers are Chargers aren't letting go of those long term players. They have done to much for those teams.

Now, are we talking about the NFL RIGHT NOW? or are we talking about the NFL in the preseason, cuz hindsight is 20/20.


Cooper, Stallworth, etc. none of those players have what is circling around kap right now, not even close.



I'm sayin though, y'all need to stop thinking about this situation with your hearts, and start using your heads.
 

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That is a OPINION, you have to PROVE it in court.

Of course they are by the way
Stats aren't subjective, neither is what the President is doing (which there are laws on the books for him not to be doing)

I don't think this is a slam dunk, but, Kaep has a real case
 

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Do you realize you're quoting an alt-right troll or are you one as well?
how the fukk am I an Alt-right troll?

:camby:

I've never subscribed to the alt-right or Trump or any of that shyt. y'all get real lazy tryna shyt on ppl.

try harder.
 

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I thought @Pink_Freud left the site. :mjlol:

I see he's brought his WS talking points to the Coliseum. Good Luck brehs. :mjgrin:
I left HL, cuz of clowns like you and your lazy ass thinking.

how the fukk is me saying kapernick is an average QB a WS talking point?

y'all are lazy as fukk with that shyt.

"I don't agree with him so he's obviously an alt-right WS troll"

:camby:
 

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Same was said about Michael Vick in 2009 before the Eagles signed him. Vick and Kaep at their respective times were more than talented enough to be back-up QB's in the league and had media circuses surrounding them. So why is it that an owner to take a chance on Michael Vick, who served 23 months in a federal prison for felony dogfighting conspiracy charges but not ok for an owner to take a chance on Kaep, who would be an upgrade to most backup QB positions in the league?
cuz the media circus died down significantly by the time Vick came back.

But you are kinda proving my point, a team will take a chance on someone that has Vick's skill level if they think he can win them games, regardless of the surroundings.

Kap never had the skill of Vick.
 

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ALl have played in this league and given chances

Greg hardy was just playing football in Jerruh world
But kaep too much of a distraction as if having hard knocks flim you isn’t a worst distraction
 

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ALl have played in this league and given chances

Greg hardy was just playing football in Jerruh world
But kaep too much of a distraction as if having hard knocks flim you isn’t a worst distraction
hard knocks is during the preseason. kap's media circus is 24/7 throughout the season.

and it ain't even his fault, but the media would make it a problem cuz they are a$$holes.
 

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Same was said about Michael Vick in 2009 before the Eagles signed him. Vick and Kaep at their respective times were more than talented enough to be back-up QB's in the league and had media circuses surrounding them. So why is it that an owner to take a chance on Michael Vick, who served 23 months in a federal prison for felony dogfighting conspiracy charges but not ok for an owner to take a chance on Kaep, who would be an upgrade to most backup QB positions in the league?

Vick at the time was a very very very talented player...once in a life time some might say. Arguably a top 10 QB when he left.

And yes, he was still blackballed for the most part....he only got onto the Eagles because they were desperate for a decent QB AND they didn't have to pay him much. I think they started off paying him at the league minimum with his experience which was a far cry from his salary before he was arrested. They basically got porcelain for plastic prices.

And from my recollection, the Eagles were the only team to take the chance, at the time, the others passed on him..there was no bidding war for his services.
 

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how the fukk am I an Alt-right troll?

:camby:

I've never subscribed to the alt-right or Trump or any of that shyt. y'all get real lazy tryna shyt on ppl.

try harder.
:mjgrin:Everyone knows you're basement dwelling loser who's only joy in life is trolling this forum. I normally just ignore you, but I couldn't resist roping in another one of your brethren. Seriously though, get some help.
 

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:mjgrin:Everyone knows you're basement dwelling loser who's only joy in life is trolling this forum. I normally just ignore you, but I couldn't resist roping in another one of your brethren. Seriously though, get some help.
:mjlol: "basement dwelling loser"


yay, another prepubescent teen talking shyt online.....

oh if you only knew..... I guarantee most of y'all would kill to have the life I've lived.
 
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