Justin James Watt is officially the nfl's most overrated player

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I don't know about JJ being overrated. (He's not), but Arian Foster's the Derrick Rose of the NFL.
 

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So @Trip....what is it that you're looking for? Clowney has been asked to drop back in coverage 8 times.

It'd be interesting to see per snap count how often a 3-4 OLB is asked to drop vs a 4-3 DE. So if you could sort that it'd be cool. And as I've been exhaustingly pointing out there are tons of defenses who are a hybrid of both. I couldnt tell you what Bruce Irvin(or any of the Seahawks edge rushers) or Aldon Smith's position is.
 

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It'd be interesting to see per snap count how often a 3-4 OLB is asked to drop vs a 4-3 DE. So if you could sort that it'd be cool. And as I've been exhaustingly pointing out there are tons of defenses who are a hybrid of both. I couldnt tell you what Bruce Irvin(or any of the Seahawks edge rushers) or Aldon Smith's position is.

That may take some work seeing how PFF Automarically has a filter for pass coverage for who they deem 3-4 OLB but to find out about 4-3 DE you have to go into each name and dig further to get that info.

What I really want is a chart that gives you alignments. The beauty of Mo, Sheldon and Leonard is they play 0 to 5. Can't really label them. They all drop back in coverage too .
 

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That may take some work seeing how PFF Automarically has a filter for pass coverage for who they deem 3-4 OLB but to find out about 4-3 DE you have to go into each name and dig further to get that info.

What I really want is a chart that gives you alignments. The beauty of Mo, Sheldon and Leonard is they play 0 to 5. Can't really label them. They all drop back in coverage too .

Yeah theyre all super versatile which is perfect. And as we know it leaves Coples as the odd man out.
 

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Im comparing a leader to another leader. This is why Watt shoulda never been considered mvp. He can be minimized. His d is azz. Its under his watch imo
A MLB has a far bigger impact than a 3-4 DE. Plus its alot easier to take a DE out of a game.
 

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A MLB has a far bigger impact than a 3-4 DE. Plus its alot easier to take a DE out of a game.

But a 3-4 MLB ain't ish without a fire ass D line. Because they eat up all the blocks

that's why when it comes down to it The jets , 49ers , ravens with Ray lewis , steelers , you have a good Dline combined with a beast of a Football mind and physical talent you got a outstanding defense

Playing behind JJ and that line Cushing should be standing out but :francis:

I give JJ credit to ball like he has at DE in

a 3-4 is something

if he played 4 technique in a 4-3 all year

he would show out for real
 

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But a 3-4 MLB ain't ish without a fire ass D line. Because they eat up all the blocks

that's why when it comes down to it The jets , 49ers , ravens with Ray lewis , steelers , you have a good Dline combined with a beast of a Football mind and physical talent you got a outstanding defense

Playing behind JJ and that line Cushing should be standing out but :francis:

I give JJ credit to ball like he has at DE in

a 3-4 is something

if he played 4 technique in a 4-3 all year

he would show out for real
Cant even argue, the dline is what makes the lbs shine in a 3-4 but...

All a decent 3-4 DE has to do is engage the tackle. The good ones get past the block and contain. The great ones get sacks. OLBs (Mercilus) need to generate pressure in the passing game. Watt is special because he can get to the QB, stop the run, or at least tie up a tackle.

A decent DE just has to take care of the tackle.
Mistakes hurt more at the lb position because lbs are responsible for more.

Texans gotta get a pass rush tho. if Watt is getting double/triple teamed, Clowney and Mercilus have to beat their man.


Who would you rather have JJ or Ray Lewis?
 
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But those double and triple teams aren't making a difference if teams can still run the ball on you three straight downs:francis:
Dafuq is he supposed to do? lol
Get a cloning machine and make me 3 JJ Watts. I guarantee the Texans will lead the LG in sacks.

How you gon blame one man for a whole defense?
Like Watt is the problem lol
 

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Dafuq is he supposed to do? lol
Get a cloning machine and make me 3 JJ Watts. I guarantee the Texans will lead the LG in sacks.

How you gon blame one man for a whole defense?
Like Watt is the problem lol


That was aimed at the rest of the Defense not getting it done, not Watt
 

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What makes JJ Watt, Muhamed Wilkerson, and players like them special is that you can kick them inside and they can also be moved to the edge
 

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This place is so fukking fickle. Players go from studs to bums from game to game.
It's one guy. You love draping the board because of one or two idiots so you can seem smarter than everyone. Most of the folks in here, like you, don't agree.
 
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It's one guy. You love draping the board because of one or two idiots so you can seem smarter than everyone. Most of the folks in here, like you, don't agree.

I got the reaction I wanted. :troll:
 
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