He's still considered a rookie
. Just don't talk to these idiots about football breh they have no clue what they're talking about 
. They don't understand the point of having impact on a game all they see is fantasy points 
Justin James Watt is officially the nfl's most overrated player
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. Just don't talk to these idiots about football breh they have no clue what they're talking about . They don't understand the point of having impact on a game all they see is fantasy points They're doubling him too breh. It's their LB core who sucks
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Again my dude....you saying 3-4 OLB and 4-3 are the same is just wrong. Outright WRONG and FACTUALLY INCORRECT
And I'm asking how the semantics impact Clowneys success at rushing the passer in the NFL? The differences are really not as drastic and you're trying to portray here.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
No..you weren't asking. You were telling lies
RhodyRum
Mark Gassed-A-Heaux
I'd consider him more over-hyped than overrated. He still impacts a game even while being neutralized, & only great players have that ability... but in this world of constantly finding "the next LT" (a world that's been in existence since the late 80s, mind you - yes youngns, LT WAS THAT BAD that all this overhype on D players to this day is due to an unnaturally high standard he set) a career season or 2 from a D player whips the media into a coronation frenzy... all the while disregarding the fact that LT had closer to a career DECADE...
Having said all that, even LT had beasts with him on those Giants Ds that made his life easier. And when your best player by far is a DE, history shows that doesn't guarantee a thing. The Buccaneers 1st ever draft pick, Lee Roy Selmon, would go on to be one of the greatest DEs & D players of all time, yet that couldn't stop the Bucs from going 17-43 his first 4 seasons, including going 0-26 in his first 26 pro games. Great players NEED great supporting casts if the TEAM is to be any good.
Having said all that, even LT had beasts with him on those Giants Ds that made his life easier. And when your best player by far is a DE, history shows that doesn't guarantee a thing. The Buccaneers 1st ever draft pick, Lee Roy Selmon, would go on to be one of the greatest DEs & D players of all time, yet that couldn't stop the Bucs from going 17-43 his first 4 seasons, including going 0-26 in his first 26 pro games. Great players NEED great supporting casts if the TEAM is to be any good.
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Why is Clowney an end and not an OLB?
and to top it off hes using the child defensive tactic of asking 'why' after anything someone says
just take your L and move on man
I just witnesses the systematic switch from 4-3 to 3-4 in Chicago and how it affected the players on the roster. It completely neutralized both Willie Young (our best defender last season) & Jared Allen
You gonna compare a 3-4 dlineman to a MLB?
Not only that but he totally left out the great players that Ray had around him. Like Ray had a bunch of bums and he led them to greatness on his own
and to top it off hes using the child defensive tactic of asking 'why' after anything someone says
just take your L and move on man
I just witnesses the systematic switch from 4-3 to 3-4 in Chicago and how it affected the players on the roster. It completely neutralized both Willie Young (our best defender last season) & Jared Allen
Willie Young lol. What position is Terrell Suggs?
Cant agree with you on that hombre. Hes technically still a rookie. Let him get some experience 1st. Hes good against the run just wait until he learns how to pass rush
RhodyRum
Mark Gassed-A-Heaux
Because a team who is married to the 3-4 idiotically picked a 4-3 DE and are asking him to do more than just line up, beat your blocker, and disrupt the backfield. And I'm not ignoring Clown's own warts, of which there are a few, but teams should stop taking these college DEs they're gonna convert to OLB so high if they want immediate returns. You've basically spent a pick that's supposed to be for a guy who can athletically hit the ground running on a guy you're now making a project. Having to learn the intricacies of a new front & a new position (no matter how similar the responsibilities are to your old position) is gonna slow down anyone, and if that player isn't exactly the fastest learner, will just slow him down even more.
Whats funny about Willie Young? He was great last season
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
He's horrible manand to top it off hes using the child defensive tactic of asking 'why' after anything someone says
just take your L and move on man
I just witnesses the systematic switch from 4-3 to 3-4 in Chicago and how it affected the players on the roster. It completely neutralized both Willie Young (our best defender last season) & Jared Allen
He was playing 4-3 end since entering the league. One outlier season doesn't conclude he's a good pass rusher exclusively in the 4-3. Allen was trending downward before Fox was hired as well.
