Just watched the movie "Backstage" for the 1st time in years and realized that

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Its not u sayin Jay is a better business man that's wrong....that's obvious....its wrong to imply they are idiots bcuz they ideal of success may not be the same as Jays...sum dudes are happy bein able to buy houses for they family,keep cash in they peoples pockets and be able to support they familys....and its wrong to say Jays demeanor in this movie versses there's proves anything lol.

Jay has said he's not the type to let people get to close to him and get into his life,and he's more laidback and introverted.....that's the demeanor u see on screen....We know for a faact Dame wuz makin business moves too and he happens to not be introverted....Diddy is business minded and also not introverted and about as disrespectful as Dame is too people.....my point is personality traits don't neccesarily have shyt to do with how succesful u are gonna be in business....not every introvert nikka is gon be succesful and not every abrassive loudmouth will be a "failure"
Every rapper on that tour would trade careers with Jay right now don't you think?
 

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This thread just looks like a chance for you to shyt on people that like to party or drink and use drugs.
 

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People like to act like Jay is the mega buisnessman when all he is really is a snake. Dame did all the groundwork for roc a fella, in the same films you can see Dame putting his career on the line for the betterment of Roc A Fella while Jay sits quietly in the background and simply keeps quiet, he played the game well but it was Dame that was the real heartbeat behind his most successful venture.
 

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Every rapper on that tour would trade careers with Jay right now don't you think?

Thats because Jay is still a relevant rapper.

If you asked Nas if he could trade careers with Jigga, i don't think he would, despite Jay being more successful.

Not every musician wants to be a business mogul my friend, some are just happy with making the money they can making the music they love, our culture is obsessed with this whole hustler image.
 

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Thats because Jay is still a relevant rapper.

If you asked Nas if he could trade careers with Jigga, i don't think he would, despite Jay being more successful.Not every musician wants to be a business mogul my friend, some are just happy with making the money they can making the music they love, our culture is obsessed with this whole hustler image.

:usure: Nas wants to be a don but doesn't have the brains to pull it off. If he had the mind and grind like Curtis and Shawn he'd use it for the cake. He don't so he can't. But Nas would trade lives with Jay in a heartbeat, especially when he gets those child support and alimony bills monthly.
 

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:ufdup: <-- I wish I could rotate that pic counterclockwise at a 90 degree angle. I'll get back to that shortly.

I've come to the conclusion that the music industry chooses the types of people you listed so they can remain the moguls and the rappers can keep dying slow. Every single artist you named has a street background so it's understandable that they act that way when they get a little fame and money. Surely the industry has known this for some time.

Here's where you fukked up at though. -
J is a snake who was willing to betray Red, Meth, Beans and DMX to get where he's at. He was probably plotting on their downfall the entire time. It's not because he was smarter or worked harder or because he wasn't sleeping with Foxy when she was a minor. It's because Dame put him in a position of power and he screwed him over and climbed his way higher while standing on others backs. :stopitslime:
:leon: I thought Jay only rose to power because Tupac died, wait i mean Biggie...no it was because Nas fell off.:childplease: Anything from the haters to not give the man his props. Putting those bums on the biggest tour of their careers=betrayal?
 

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Dog, I can tell from the wittiness of his rhymes that Jay possesses a certain level of intelligence. I'm not calling him a genius, but a nikka can't get where he at in the game he in without being a pretty sharp guy. And Kanye West is a dumb ass, I don't care about that nikka being college educated. He the nikka who signed to Jay, so who's really the smart one:beli:

in jay-z book and in another article its states he was reading at a 12th grade level in the 6th grade and he has a photographic memory.
 

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What has Ross done in business that Jeezy hasn't done? Im saying 50 and Jay can sit across from the jews and make deals outside of hiphop. Can you picture Ross or Wayne making a deal like 50 did with Glaceau with the Vitamin Water come up? Naw, because they can't articulate themselves and drop the facade or "gimmick". Ross stays in character while 50 can go to Curtis Jackson instantly. Ross hasn't shown me 1 impressive business move.

i heard that rick ross really talks like a 40 year old white nerd. i dont know if theres any merit to that but im just saying.:manny:
 

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Every rapper on that tour would trade careers with Jay right now don't you think?

Yea sure if u just asked nikkas "hey u wanna switch careers with Jay" I'm sure they'd jump right on that lol,but life don't work like a genie that way.....if u asked them "do u want jays career?all u have to do is never be able to go outside without security,constantly have paparazi in ya face,work long hard hours,u can't say what u wanna say at all times,u gotta cut out life long friends bcuz they a little to hood" then I'm sure nikkas with the success of Red,Meth,Nas might not take that offer...they might be happy just chillin not goin to business meetings all day and eatin very well:manny:


I'm hapy with my baby mama but don't mean I wouldn't send her packin with my kid if Beyonce called my phone out the blue wanted to have me..... don't mean I'm sittin here all day thinkin ":ohhh: I wish Beyonce wanted me:to:"....can't miss what u never really wanted,had or expected to have...we don't know these mans dreams and aspirations
 

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Snoops worth over 100mill and he's rarely seen without a blunt on camera.

meth and red are nowhere near as business minded as snoop is, meth and red are both lazy as fukk u cant say that about snoop.
 

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meth and red are nowhere near as business minded as snoop is, meth and red are both lazy as fukk u cant say that about snoop.
I know that but threadstarters trying to say people getting fukked up after a concert is proof and the reason they're not businessmen like jay but I've seen snoop fukked up plenty in backstage videos
 
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