Just watched the movie "Backstage" for the 1st time in years and realized that

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

just saying, the film is edited, unless anyone of us was there, we can't say anything, for all we know, Jay could have been running through hoes, sniffin coke, and getting drunk every night,

But nobody has ever accused him of doing those things. If he had a vice that hindered his career it would've been exposed by now.

 

[Enzo]

Again, it's not about whether or not he partook in the actions. It's about his discretion and focus.

 

[5n0man]

Thread is stupid a bunch of different reasons...

Off tops, not everybody's grandest aspiration in life is to one day be deemed as a negro acceptable and presentable enough to have the great privilege to sit in meetings with rich corporate jews and have the honor of getting their approval...These dudes are rappers...artists...the type of people who chase the dream of pursuing a career in music because they want to make a living by being creative and doing what they're truly passionate about and love to do...these typically aren't the people with dreams of being straight laced corporate suits...hip hop, like rock n roll before it started off as "counter culture"...they're "urban" rock stars...success on your own terms and by your own rules without conformity and assimilation and kissing corporate ass is partially kind of the whole fukking point...you think DMX, if given the chance to redo his career knowing what he knows now, would decide "I'll do it this time the whole time hoping and praying I'm accepted by 75 year old white billionaires 15 years from now" ? Because I don't, I'm willing to bet he just tries to kick the crack habit and go on from there

Secondly, you're buying into superficial outward images to the point of naivete...being some super serious joyless introvert ain't the only avenue to success or becoming a "boss"...not even getting into the actual business world...but far as just hip hop moguls go, fukking puff is a notorious partier...it's a part of his image and brand....smokes weed, gets drunk, got a handful of babymamas...and is worth more than Jay...Rush snorted all kinds of blow and was a couple hundred m's up before he got old and transitioned into a buddhist hippy...furthermore all of this "can you imagine so and so sitting and having a conversation with rich jews" shyt is silly...not like Jay-Z or any of these super successful guys are doing all of this alone...all of these guys have teams of managers, consultants, and advisers that specialize in business and negotiation helping them out with that...Jay-Z's ability to remain a relevant artist and maintain his brand I'm willing to bet has more to do with his success than anything he's personally saying or negotiating in meetings with "rich and important jews"...don't matter what the arbitrary superficial appearance of your brand is, just that it's strong

this right here was spot on














































and nobody responded to it

 

[Day_Walker]

Both Lazy and Krazy tried to have their own label and failed at it. So don't tell me nikkas don't want it. They probably just not willing to do what it takes to make it pop which is be focused and make the transition.

breh some people are just not cut out to be businessmen.
I know bone would definitely love to swap their positions for jay cause they've made some bad moves and probably aren't as well of as they should be but it's just not in them to be something they're not which is great businessmen.
Not everyone is a doctor, engineer etc cause they either don't want to be or just don't have the neccessary smarts in that field to be it.

Do you think it's a good idea for a gifted rapper/lyricist that is not business minded and might not be the smartest person out there to try and fail at branching out while risking losing his core audience or use his energy on focusing on what he's good at AND LOVES doing which is rapping which keeps his core fanbase happy and keeps money coming in from album sales and touring.
And why the fukk shouldn't they get drunk, fukked up, clown around if that's who they truly are.


You gloss over all the posts that are explaining this to you and carry on sidetracking every time people prove you wrong and it's obvious this is the reason why

I don't think he's a Jay dikkrider. I think it's more that he (likely) believes he has a similar mentality to Jay...no vices all about business. He sees Jay rising and others "falling" and looks at it like it's some sort of reflection that he's doing things the right way himself. I honestly think the whole argument is more about him than any of the rappers.

No one is stupid enough to criticize Method Man / Redman for portraying the image of being drunks/drug abusers/etc. when they managed to parlay that image into movies, tv shows and other ventures. Are they Jay Z? No. Are they in the upper echelon of rappers when it comes to longevity and $$? Yes.

I will admit though if your focus is to branch out and make moves outside your lane it is more profitable to portray a cleaner brand. Ask Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods. But not all people are down to portray something they aren't just for the sake of chasing paper. Can't hate them for that, and there's room for those types to make money as well.

 

[Day_Walker]

this right here was spot on

and nobody responded to it

Everyones basically telling OP that in different words but he glosses over all there posts and starts a new argument.

 

[Danie84]

This reminds me of the time when X had the game in the frenzy.

Prays for the Dark Man to conquer his demons.

 

[FreshAIG]

Both Red and Meth are very well off. Method Man has done big movies, films, tv shows, advertisements. So putting him there is just dumb

And DMX is a real street hood nikka. He wasn't gonna change ever. That's just how it is

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Both Red and Meth are very well off. Method Man has done big movies, films, tv shows, advertisements. So putting him there is just dumb

And DMX is a real street hood nikka. He wasn't gonna change ever. That's just how it is

Meth nor Red could fill up a club with a 2000 person capacity. I don't think so at least. I don't see how anybody could think they're career is in a good spot right now. Nobody anticipating or demanding an album or tour from neither 1 of em.

 

[atlbound]

Did this fakkit really jus brag about the prestige and debonair of Jay-z getting his dikk sucked with a condom on?

 

[spliz]

Both Lazy and Krazy tried to have their own label and failed at it. So don't tell me nikkas don't want it. They probably just not willing to do what it takes to make it pop which is be focused and make the transition.

SOME nikkas want it..but not EVERYBODY wants it...for u to even think that is bugged out to me...

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

SOME nikkas want it..but not EVERYBODY wants it...for u to even think that is bugged out to me...

How can nikka post Master P not want it?

 

[spliz]

How can nikka post Master P not want it?

Cause NOT everybody is money hungry or has that business mind...nikkas literally wanna do what they love to do...while making money and living comfortable...and they content with that without all the extra headache and responsibility...everyone has their role in society...if EVERYBODY is a boss..than who the fukk is gonna be the workers?...think about that...

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Cause NOT everybody is money hungry or has that business mind...nikkas literally wanna do what they love to do...while making money and living comfortable...and they content with that without all the extra headache and responsibility...everyone has their role in society...if EVERYBODY is a boss..than who the fukk is gonna be the workers?...think about that...

Thought about it for 2 seconds and still can't understand who would WANT to be a worker instead of a boss.

 

[spliz]

Thought about it for 2 seconds and still can't understand who would WANT to be a worker instead of a boss.

Because maybe some people don't wanna be responsible for other peoples lives...PLUS its way more responsibility involved...some people just wanna do what they wanna do or gotta do..and live their lives...and be happy g...its called balance in society..

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Because maybe some people don't wanna be responsible for other peoples lives...PLUS its way more responsibility involved...some people just wanna do what they wanna do or gotta do..and live their lives...and be happy g...its called balance in society..

I can see if you was to say everybody ain't smart enough. But to tell me the average person doesn't want his bosses job or pay is unbelievable. Sure it's more stress but it's more pay. And we do live in a capitalistic society. nikkas ain't turning down raises and promotions where I come from.