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Watched it again with some people today. There's no way anyone with a straight face based on what was nominated can anyone say the Oscars did not ROB "Selma". How can you see the direction with the whole marches and "bloody Sunday" and acting and cinematography as well as the writing. This movie should of gotten no less than 6 Nods. Also the LBJ issue is the biggest FAKE controversy I've ever seen. I actually saw White People cheering Tom's performance. I think the LBJ portrayal was spot on. Historian's don't want to accept that for Black America The White House moved slow but it EVENTUALLY happen. The movie DID NOT pain LBJ as some Villain. Instead it showed a guy who was torn but ended up on the right side. The movie also showed how White People did show compassion towards the Blacks movement so it wasn't "All White People Are Evil" as much as it was White Supremacy and Racism are evil. David was FANTASTIC as King. He WAS King. Robbed and it shows you how racism is still strong.

"American Sniper" and "Imitation Game" both played WAY MORE Loose with History than "Selma" did yet you didn't hear a pep from the Liberal or Conservative Media. "Selma" was attacked for being a positive Black Story cause it didn't have a "White" Hero or Savior in the end. Also David's performance as MLK was superior than many of the white actors nominated ahead of him. The Savoir was a BLACK MAN by the name of Martin Luther. So for the 1st time in Film History Martin gets a BIG TIME movie. And they played him. Matter of fact if you look at all the Great Black Heroes from "Ali" to "X" to "Martin".and even "Mandela" none of the Black Actors playing those roles won Oscars. It's systematic. It's not about white acceptance. It's about being fair and equal but I guess that's to much to ask. There needs to be a new Black Artistic Renaissance. These studios just don't get it about Black films or audiences. But Salute to everyone involved in this film. It was just as good as "12 Years" last year. As for the Box Office Numbers, it was only a 20 Million budget, it's doing just fine.

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I don't care so much that it got snubbed at whiteys awards after last year with 12 years we won't be seeing that sort of gushing for a black movie in a while especially not one that doesn't involve slavery. I am more saddened by the money it's amassed (or lack there of) at the box office.
 

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I don't care so much that it got snubbed at whiteys awards after last year with 12 years we won't be seeing that sort of gushing for a black movie in a while especially not one that doesn't involve slavery. I am more saddened by the money it's amassed (or lack there of) at the box office.


It had a 20 Million budget. Black Historical Drama normally average between 40-75 Million tops. Here's how some other Black Historical Films did at the Box Office:

12 Years A Slave: 56 Domestic (American Audiences didn't turn out but it did an amazing 131 Million overseas to give it a 181 Million total off a 20 Million budget. This makes it the highest grossing black historical film worldwide)
Amistad: 44 Million Domestic (Even with Steven Spielberg Directing, it didn't get a worldwide release. The budget was 36 Million)
Malcolm X: 46 Million Domestic (Did not get a worldwide release and Spike had to ask for money to finish it. It ended up being a 30 Million budget)
The Color Purple: 92 Million Domestic (Got 11 Oscar Nods and lost all of them, it grossed another 50 million overseas for a 142 Million total)
Rosewood: 13 Million Domestic (This one bombed pretty bad, it had a 30 Million budget.)
Glory: 26 Domestic (Denzel won his 1st Oscar from this Civil War Epic but it did underperform. It had a 30 Million budget and wasn't released overaseas)
Ray: 75 Million Domestic (It also did another 50 Million overseas to give it a 125 Million worldwide total. It had a 40 Million budget)
Ali: 58 Million Total (It only added 29 Million Worldwide for a 87 Million total. It's the highest budget for a histoical black film ever at 107 Million so it did underperform)
The Butler: 116 Domestic (Plus it add another 60 Million worldwide for a 176 Million total. It only had 30 Million budget it's the highest grossing Black historical film ever Domestically)
Selma: 30 Million Domestic (Thus far, it only had a 20 Million budget)


What I gather from these numbers is Hollywood likes to Lie. They sit up here and say "Films with Black Cast Don't make money domestic or overseas" but when you look at the budgets they aren't spending money on Black casted films like that and some they aren't releasing overseas. Yet a majority of these films have surpassed their budgets by a lot.
 

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It had a 20 Million budget. Black Historical Drama normally average between 40-75 Million tops. Here's how some other Black Historical Films did at the Box Office:

12 Years A Slave: 56 Domestic (American Audiences didn't turn out but it did an amazing 131 Million overseas to give it a 181 Million total off a 20 Million budget. This makes it the highest grossing black historical film worldwide)
Amistad: 44 Million Domestic (Even with Steven Spielberg Directing, it didn't get a worldwide release. The budget was 36 Million)
Malcolm X: 46 Million Domestic (Did not get a worldwide release and Spike had to ask for money to finish it. It ended up being a 30 Million budget)
The Color Purple: 92 Million Domestic (Got 11 Oscar Nods and lost all of them, it grossed another 50 million overseas for a 142 Million total)
Rosewood: 13 Million Domestic (This one bombed pretty bad, it had a 30 Million budget.)
Glory: 26 Domestic (Denzel won his 1st Oscar from this Civil War Epic but it did underperform. It had a 30 Million budget and wasn't released overaseas)
Ray: 75 Million Domestic (It also did another 50 Million overseas to give it a 125 Million worldwide total. It had a 40 Million budget)
Ali: 58 Million Total (It only added 29 Million Worldwide for a 87 Million total. It's the highest budget for a histoical black film ever at 107 Million so it did underperform)
The Butler: 116 Domestic (Plus it add another 60 Million worldwide for a 176 Million total. It only had 30 Million budget it's the highest grossing Black historical film ever Domestically)
Selma: 30 Million Domestic (Thus far, it only had a 20 Million budget)


What I gather from these numbers is Hollywood likes to Lie. They sit up here and say "Films with Black Cast Don't make money domestic or overseas" but when you look at the budgets they aren't spending money on Black casted films like that and some they aren't releasing overseas. Yet a majority of these films have surpassed their budgets by a lot.
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To Add To That List More Recently:

42 - 95 Million Domestic (42 Did almost 100 Million off a 40 Million budget, yet it did not get a Worldwide release)?
Get On Up - 30 Million Domestic (It also did 2 more million on a limited worldwide release, it had a 20 Million budget)
Fruitville Station 16 Million Domestic (This did very well for an independent release, it only had about 3 Million budget)

So again Hollywood is Lying. It's not that overseas audiences DONT want to see black people. It's that Hollywood doesn't release them overseas. What was there excuse for "42"?
 

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This is such a great film..:to:
Just saw it and it just hit me. Should have more honors, Oyelowo performance was..:ohlawd:
 
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