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saw the movie this weekend, and after reading the tread and my own opinions, I was beyond satisfied...

then I read this a blurb in British GQ about the most mindfukking time-travel movies and it mentioned something no one has brought up and I was :mindblown:

a few questions to think about...(time-travel movies are so awesome but such a clusterfukk)

A.) so in original timeline, Bruce Willis' Joe closes his loop, and lives his life, meeting his Chinese wife, and he gets caught and sent back by what he tells JGL's Joe is the Rainmaker's men...if Bruce Willis' Joe is the creation of the Rainmaker, how is the Rainmaker character in the original timeline?

B.) Its assumed this cycle has repeated itself an infinite amount of times...What happens to Bruce Willis' Joe in the timeline where he creates the Rainmaker? Like after Bruce Willis' Joe kills Rainmakers mom...what happens to him?...He just stays in the same timeline with JGL's Joe ....?


C.) Why doesn't Bruce Willis' Joe just go into hiding since he knows he is going to get caught in 30 yrs and be sent back?

I know these problems are most likely just a result of time-travel paradoxes...time travel movies sometimes turn into "the chicken or the Egg" type scenarios, but interested to see what you guys think

A) The Rainmaker was always going to come to fruition. The means in which it happens doesn't matter. Maybe in Bruce Willis Joe's timeline, the boy killed his mom by accident & he grew up angry because of that. Its like the movie Butterfly Effect. No matter how many times Ashton Kutcher went back to save his girl, his girlfriend just ended up more fukked up afterwards until he realized it was just destined for him & his girl not to end up together & even if he stopped one problem from happening, their fate manifested itself in another way. That's how I look at the Rainmaker. If it wasn't Joe that was the cause, then something else would've been. It does create a flaw in the film though because eventhough Joe killed himself to save Sara & Sid, assuming this theory that the Rainmaker always finds a way to become the Rainmaker, who's to say the kid won't still somehow lose his mom & go batshyt crazy.

B) Now for that I have no idea. If he killed the boy, he would've zapped back to his timeline because without the Rainmaker alive in the future, he'd never been ambushed at his house. I guess you right, if he just killed the mom & not the boy, he would be stuck in Young Joe's timeline.

C) They explained it in the movie. He started living life. Killing nikkas, fukking hoes, you gotta remember, Joe was sitting on millions of dollars from all that silver he saved. He wasn't paying that shyt no mind until like year 29.
 

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Directed By: Rian Johnson
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In 2072, when the mob wants to get rid of someone, the target is sent 30 years into the past, where a hired gun awaits. Someone like Joe, who one day learns the mob wants to ‘close the loop’ by transporting back Joe’s future self.


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So, if anyone else is a nerd like me and is planning on seeing this again....

Rian Johnson has recorded a commentary track you can listen to while watching the film

I'm gonna do this in a few weeks for sure :myman:

[ame=http://soundcloud.com/rcjohnso/looper-theatrical-commentary]Looper Theatrical Commentary Track by rcjohnso on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free[/ame]
 

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*puffs blunt*

Why didn't at the end, instead of shooting himself in the chest w the blunderbuss, JGL instead shoot off the hand that his older self (Bruce Willis) was pointing at lil devil boy's Mom....sure he'd lose a hand but he'd be alive :ohhh:

The blunderbuss couldn't shoot that far remember how blue was saying it hits like 10-15 ft only.

Edit: oh shoot off his hand hmm good point idk
 

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The blunderbuss couldn't shoot that far remember how blue was saying it hits like 10-15 ft only

U misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm saying JGL shoots off his own hand w the blunderbuss so that his future self, Bruce Willis, will automatically lose his hand n no longer b able to shoot devil baby's mom dukes.
 

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Joe: Don't worry about that time traveling bullshyt....it can't be explained. You'll be talking yourself in circles about it all day.

I thought it was " drawing straws all day? " or something similar to that.
 

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Directed By: Rian Johnson
Starring: Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Bruce Willis and Emily Blunt
Release Description

In 2072, when the mob wants to get rid of someone, the target is sent 30 years into the past, where a hired gun awaits. Someone like Joe, who one day learns the mob wants to ‘close the loop’ by transporting back Joe’s future self.


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ANOTHER proof that it was 3 loops was the note. the 1st time, old joe left the note after knocking his younger self out that said, run and go hop on a train. the 3RD time he didn't LEAVE a note at all and just simply knocked him out and went to exactly where he knew he was gonna be at.

He left him a note the other time too. We just didn't see it. That time all they showed was Old Joe walking towards the truck and then the truck already driving down a road. We didn't see anything in between to make us think he didn't leave a note. When he had the memory of Young Joe crushing his phone ad looking up into the city, Old Joe said "What are you doing? I told you to run."
 

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U misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm saying JGL shoots off his own hand w the blunderbuss so that his future self, Bruce Willis, will automatically lose his hand n no longer b able to shoot devil baby's mom dukes.

Idk if you think too hard bout this movie it makes less sense
 

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the stripper and RM mom are two different girls. the first loop was JGL, the second was BW.

thats why bruce recognized the strippernwhen he saw her pick up her child and why kid blue knew to goto the strippers apartment.
 

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looper is just :wow:

i loved the movie but the ending made too much sense if thats an accurate observation/complaint after watching all that...i wanted a more complex or more open ended ending :laugh:

I feel what you saying I wanted a cluster fukk inception type ending myself . Imo
they should have had the rainmaker less obvious and showed how he was made with the mom getting killed.
 
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