Just found out ancient rome had black emperors

[Bawon Samedi]

At least be respectful like @Poitier breh...I'm always open to dialogue and then researching for edification to verify...same thing with you @Barnett114

Don't come at me like I've been engaged in these tit for tats constantly. Your threads on these stay buried so don't insult me.

Who said I was ATTACKING YOU?

 

[Poitier]

See the thing that makes me not want to wade into this is that no one ever considers that these people were basically arabs or conveniently pretends they didn't exist.

I get the notion that the Nile river permits "blacks" to end up in the Nile delta, etc...but are we to pretend that these people didn't exist either?

No one ever has an "arab" origin story in all of this.

Plus, traversing the Sahara aint an easy task either.

I really think people have a problem with admitting its REALLY hard for west africans to have claims to that region of the world. At best you get Far East Africa and thats just based on my layman view of things. I never seriously considered learning too much about it. It seemed to lead to rhetorical dead ends I could never wade into.

Berbers don't come from the Arabian peninsula.

They come from the same place Horner Africans migrated out of. The East African rifts.

And the Sahara is hard to traverse which is why the Arabs never could conquer the region. The only non-Africans living in the Sahara are Bedouins.

North Africa is a confusing region racially because you have isolated indigenous African populations amongst a sea of European and Arab colonizers who came around Hellenistic times and the Middle Ages,

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Why can't he just be a proto-arab? @Poitier

What the fukk!? What about the Namidians or Septimus is proto-Arab?

 

[MalikReloaded]

nikkas claim any and everyone as black and when others are skeptical it's because "It’s a damn shame many of y’all are satisfied with a white washed version of history"



nikkas claim and talk about everyone else more than they talk African history

White people have European history, Canadian history, American history and Australian history

Why is it c00nish for black people to see if we had any history in places outside of Africa?

 

[The M.I.C.]

Who said I was ATTACKING YOU?

You're responding to Barns who quoted me directly..therefore, I assume you're talking about me.

 

[tuckgod]

@Diasporan Royalty I'll let him do the honors

Lets Talk African History: The Moors. Who Were They?

Lets Talk African History: The Swahili Coast

Lets Talk African History:"Sahel" West African Civilizations

These are some.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

You're responding to Barns who quoted me directly..therefore, I assume you're talking about me.

I was speaking in general. But Im sorry there has been some silly stuff said in this thread that i loss patient. What you posted was not that bad.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

White people have European history, Canadian history, American history and Australian history

Why is it c00nish for black people to see if we had any history in places outside of Africa?

We do. Its called African-American, Haitian, Jamaican and Afro-Brazilian history. Some of the most influential groups in the modern world.

 

[ejthompson23]

Not exactly. They are Africans that left to travel north and mated with Neanderthals.

Here’s Harvard, Cornell, Nat Geo and even Fox News admitting so.

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2014/01/neanderthals-dna-legacy-linked-to-modern-ailments/

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/2008/02/migration-africa-left-mark-european-genetic-diversity

Why Am I Neanderthal?

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxn...cally-weaker-than-blacks-study-finds.amp.html

If you wanna save yourself the trouble of reading all of that, Africans are the only people on the planet without Neanderthal DNA. Calling black people apes or monkeys becomes laughable when you start peeling back the layers.

Ever see a shaved ape or monkey? Ever see an ape or monkey with thick lips or “nappy” hair?



How about those Denisovans though?

Before anyone accuses me of racism, check my sources.

I'm not talking about that far down the human evolution chain...I mean rowdiest settlers of Europe as MEN would've been black with blue eyes....I'm at work so I'm too lazy to post the article...

 

[Pirius Black]

I both love and loathe threads like this. The man was unquestionably African, in appearance, parentage and origin. However, most people here want to know whether he was black, which makes no sense given that

• The Ancient Romans had no modern concept of race familiar to the modern day layperson. Did they notice phenotypic features and differences? Of course, but the Romans were more likely to classify someone due to national origin other than ethnic/racial origin.
• This very website cannot come to a concrete definition of what black means, given that Severus was of Berber and Phoenician origin, this becomes doubly tricky since I have seen opinions on This site stating that Berbers and Semites are not black
• Being black is as much of a social and political question as much as one of mere phenotype, similarly people are posting pictures looking to infer genotype info from phenotype, a major no no to anyone remotely familiar with Anthropology

The man was a person of color to borrow a popular designation. Even if we cannot nail down Severus as being black or black in the way The Coli means, he wss still a man of color, a man of Africa who rose to prominence as head of one of history's greatest Empires. Just as there have been many undeniably black people whose names have been lost to history has done the same. Why must we emulate the eurocentric nutters who claim every prominent civilization is White? We have a proud history; Africa has many great empires and thrown up many heroes in World history, plus, we of all people can claim a direct kinship tie to the first modern humans to roam and civilize the planet. We don't need to claim the history of others in order to exalt or acknowledge our own.

 

[The Fade]

Well upon further reading Herodotus they did consider the ancient Libyans black and the term "nigri" comes up. Other contemporaries apparently did too cause they keep making remarks about black skin about Ethiopians and North Africans. The berbers can have black wooly hair and dark skin. They considered Ethiopians black too but with straighter hair.

It just depends what you see as black cuz you know how the classifications changed and what not

 

[The M.I.C.]

I was speaking in general. But Im sorry there has been some silly stuff said in this thread that i loss patient. What you posted was not that bad.

Understood Lord Strangles, it's all good..I fukk with y'all brehs so I give you and @Poitier more credit on these issues than any of these other motherfukkers on here. I'll check that thread out now, thanks.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Understood Lord Strangles, it's all good..I fukk with y'all brehs so I give you and @Poitier more credit on these issues than any of these other motherfukkers on here. I'll check that thread out now, thanks.

Thanks. Anyways my bad.

 

[MalikReloaded]

We do. Its called African-American, Haitian, Jamaican and Afro-Brazilian history. Some of the most influential groups in the modern world.

There were blacks living around the world before the Transatlantic Slave Trade, breh.

You can't call yourself an intellectual and then say you have no interest in knowing whether or not there were blacks living in Europe, the Middle East and other parts of the world during antiquity. Even if you despise anything relating to Europe, for historical purposes, it needs to be known.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

There were blacks living around the world before the Transatlantic Slave Trade, breh.

You can't call yourself an intellectual and then say you have no interest in knowing whether or not there were blacks living in Europe, the Middle East and other parts of the world during antiquity. Even if you despise anything relating to Europe, for historical purposes, it needs to be known.

This thread has given me migraines and dont wanna go back and forth. You can have this W.