Juice WRLD Lost Millions After Sting took 85% of Lucid Dreams

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You can't even pay homage no more...

You can no longer sample or draw inspiration from they're shyt.
Stop lining these mf's pockets.

I had to throw about 150 beats in the bushes. :snoop:


Leave that old ass music alone. Let that shyt fade into obscurity.



I say that as a producer!
You can pay homage all you want, but cut the check. It coulda been worse. Sting coulda flat out denied him the right to sample it. Prince showed y’all how overprotective people can be about their work
 

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so wait, he didnt clear the sample before he allowed it to get mainstream spins?!


man these guys really are stupid smh dumb ass probably was like "call nas people up so we can clear the sample yo"

You’d think any record label in their right mind that cares are profiting off of a “hit” single would do their due diligence unless the label is owned and run by people under 25. Because how the fukk do you sample one of the biggest artists of the 80s/90s who is still making music now and not run that shyt by him.

Wild shyt is the song didn’t even need the Sting melody because the vocal melody and drum programming stand out on their own. Could easily got Zay to lay some keys down in its place.
 

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Where are yall getting these numbers from? 85%? Where's the source besides this random dude on youtube?

The Juice Wrld shyt isn't a direct sample, it's a replay. It's basically a cover song. I'm not defending Juice Wrld, it is what it is, I just hate when dudes get on the internet and say whatever. It's very unlikely Sting "took" 85% of the song, that's not how the business works and that statement doesn't even make sense. Ok carry on. :hubie:
 

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In order for Diddy to get cleared to use the "Every Breath You Take" sample, he had to let Sting and Clive Davis run a train on him

This. And Sting hostages the fukk out of him at the MTV Awards when damn near the whole Bad Boy rooster came out to perform with Puff. Sting isn’t dumb and neither is Clive. If they were gonna go thru the hassle of dealing with a sample happy “producer” they were gonna pull the same Rape n U Records shyt Puff (and many others) brought to the rap game.

Just wild that cats will grab the most popular songs from a big time artist catalog and not even chop the sample up and get the $ worth. shyt like that alone is why Michael Jackson should be alive right now eating off that Sony catalog and not even thinking about making music or touring anymore. Because it was (and is) a license to print money is situations just like this.
 

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You can pay homage all you want, but cut the check. It coulda been worse. Sting coulda flat out denied him the right to sample it. Prince showed y’all how overprotective people can be about their work

And Prince reserved the right to shut cats down. This is the same man who was writing songs for his whole crew and hiding backstage and playing guitar for The Time because they weren’t ready to be on stage in the first place. If you got 30 years in the game you should have your masters and not even need sample clearance money in the first place even tho it’s an easy check. But on the flip side, a trash artist samples your song, it gets popular bug the content is booty. Then what?

In every case the outcome won’t be as wavy as Between The Sheets/Big Poppa where both songs are classics. You get guilty pleasures like Under Pressure/Ice Ice Baby where the new track is a pop hit but embarrassing as fukk in hindsight.

Either way, these producers and artists have a find a better way to pay homage outside of lazy samples. All of that 70s/80s music is just light years ahead of their abilities to begin with and as a result you get a track that hits because of a familiar melody and not because it’s dope.
 

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It worked for Eminem, the person who owned the sample for my name took around 90 percent
 
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