Judgment Free Zone: "Do you think Trump was better for the economy?"
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FLORIDA BOI
All Star
No , we have the numbers 
Sir Richard Spirit
Superstar
Trumps economy was 100% better. . Anyone telling you different is blinded by their hatred for Trump. Even the numbers the Biden people point to are almost all fake because the majority of the jobs gained were basically just people going back to work 
The economy was STRONGER under Trump because he inherited a great economy from Obama. Not only that, Trump did things that impacted the immediate because he was forced to by democrats. Its not really spoken about now, but every idea Trump threw out there was scrutinized and used democrats to force his hand.
It was the democrats who forced checks to more people with little restrictions. It was the democrats who forced healthcare changes, student loan payment pauses, increases in food stamps. It was the democrats who forced Trump into making the PPP loans so available. It was the democrats who forced pay raises and better standards at jobs. It was the democrats who pressed the child tax credit.
They pressed Trump on the streets and at press conferences and everywhere he was at. It was the democrats who boxed him in.
The only thing Trump gets credit for is for low gas prices.
Then Biden got in
The economy was STRONGER under Trump because he inherited a great economy from Obama. Not only that, Trump did things that impacted the immediate because he was forced to by democrats. Its not really spoken about now, but every idea Trump threw out there was scrutinized and used democrats to force his hand.
It was the democrats who forced checks to more people with little restrictions. It was the democrats who forced healthcare changes, student loan payment pauses, increases in food stamps. It was the democrats who forced Trump into making the PPP loans so available. It was the democrats who forced pay raises and better standards at jobs. It was the democrats who pressed the child tax credit.
They pressed Trump on the streets and at press conferences and everywhere he was at. It was the democrats who boxed him in.
The only thing Trump gets credit for is for low gas prices.
Then Biden got in
If you are a fan of de-regulation, then you'll likely think Trump is better for the economy.
If you look at how everything was set up from the end of Obama to now, it benefits Trump to the most. He comes out of it looking like a god to people who don't know any better.
The last two years of Obama's Presidency saw real economic growth that people were hoping would happen sooner. Unemployment and poverty dropping, GDP growth, wages rising. Obama left office with unemployment at around 4.7%. At its peak in 2010, it rose to 10% due to the recession.
So the next President basically just had to ride the wave and not do anything to fukk it up. And that's what Trump did. As a result, the economy continued to get stronger, the numbers got even better, and Trump was able to take the credit. People try to point to Trump's tax cuts as a sign of economic growth that Trump unleashed, but economists have said that it didn't provide the economic energy that Republicans were hoping for 83% of the benefits went to the upper class and rich people.
Then Covid comes and Trump fukks it up big time. Hundreds of thousands of people die. Some un-necessarily, and the economy shuts down. All of the economic gains made during his Presidency are completely wiped out. Trump is forced to sign into law 6 trillion dollars passed by Congress to keep people afloat. Most of that went to stimmy checks, unemployment insurance and small business bailouts.
Trump leaves office and Biden inherits a mess. 1)They have to lift the economy back up. 2)They have to get the country out of Covid and roll out the vaccine in an effective way.
Then the after effects of covid begin to show economic disaster for virtually every major country. Too much government spending, a broken global supply chain, and economic demand being high with supply shortages when the economy opens back up, and companies price gouging to re-coup the money they missed out on during covid. Inflation hits all of the countries pretty hard, and here in the United States Biden gets the blame for years. Regardless of the fact that wages have risen, unemployment numbers are at record lows, and the country recovered all of the jobs lost during covid.
Meanwhile, people in the US memory hole the covid disaster. Trump gets away with that (just like he got away with January 6) and people look back and wish they had the 2019 economy, and think to themselves "there was no inflation under Trump and I had money in my pockets, therefore he was better for the economy and we need him back" Not realizing he was a major cause in the inflation we had to deal with.
So yeah, he was able to ride a wave coming into office, and the consequences of his fukk ups happened under Biden, and people blame Biden while Trump gets to blame him too and say "When I was President we didn't have these problems."
If you look at how everything was set up from the end of Obama to now, it benefits Trump to the most. He comes out of it looking like a god to people who don't know any better.
The last two years of Obama's Presidency saw real economic growth that people were hoping would happen sooner. Unemployment and poverty dropping, GDP growth, wages rising. Obama left office with unemployment at around 4.7%. At its peak in 2010, it rose to 10% due to the recession.
So the next President basically just had to ride the wave and not do anything to fukk it up. And that's what Trump did. As a result, the economy continued to get stronger, the numbers got even better, and Trump was able to take the credit. People try to point to Trump's tax cuts as a sign of economic growth that Trump unleashed, but economists have said that it didn't provide the economic energy that Republicans were hoping for 83% of the benefits went to the upper class and rich people.
Then Covid comes and Trump fukks it up big time. Hundreds of thousands of people die. Some un-necessarily, and the economy shuts down. All of the economic gains made during his Presidency are completely wiped out. Trump is forced to sign into law 6 trillion dollars passed by Congress to keep people afloat. Most of that went to stimmy checks, unemployment insurance and small business bailouts.
Trump leaves office and Biden inherits a mess. 1)They have to lift the economy back up. 2)They have to get the country out of Covid and roll out the vaccine in an effective way.
Then the after effects of covid begin to show economic disaster for virtually every major country. Too much government spending, a broken global supply chain, and economic demand being high with supply shortages when the economy opens back up, and companies price gouging to re-coup the money they missed out on during covid. Inflation hits all of the countries pretty hard, and here in the United States Biden gets the blame for years. Regardless of the fact that wages have risen, unemployment numbers are at record lows, and the country recovered all of the jobs lost during covid.
Meanwhile, people in the US memory hole the covid disaster. Trump gets away with that (just like he got away with January 6) and people look back and wish they had the 2019 economy, and think to themselves "there was no inflation under Trump and I had money in my pockets, therefore he was better for the economy and we need him back" Not realizing he was a major cause in the inflation we had to deal with.
So yeah, he was able to ride a wave coming into office, and the consequences of his fukk ups happened under Biden, and people blame Biden while Trump gets to blame him too and say "When I was President we didn't have these problems."
Should hit em with the good ol “ facts don’t care about your feelingsHe delayed them checks for weeks to do that dumb shyt
Of course its a Right-Wing account. They don't look at facts, they care about vibes. "Things felt better under Trump" should be their calling card.
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I Really Mean It
Veteran
people who cite trump’s tax cuts fail to understand that a “cut” in taxation is merely a shift in the burden, from those with money to those without. to compensate for the cuts, costs of services are raised, the effects of which felt by everyone but the wealthy.
it’s a regressive shell game that the right has played since reagan.
it’s a regressive shell game that the right has played since reagan.
MoshpitMazi
Moshpit Gxng/ Anti Fash
They cut taxes for the rich and tell regular ass people that Medicare and Social Security should be cut. How the fukk people with any level of education higher than high school falls for that, I don't know.people who cite trump’s tax cuts fail to understand that a “cut” in taxation is merely a shift in the burden, from those with money to those without. to compensate for the cuts, costs of services are raised, the effects of which felt by everyone but the wealthy.
it’s a regressive shell game that the right has played since reagan.
perfectblack999
All Star
The president’s influence on the economy is questionable at best.
Born2BKing
Veteran
Hey, do you know who was president from 2020-2022?
Tony D'Amato
It's all about the inches
He was definitely good for the stock market and crypto. He deregulated everything
SpikeLee Cumbersmith
Rookie
The evidence says no.
Vandelay
Life is absurd. Lean into it.
He really didn't do anything but not drop what Obama gave him and that stupid ass tax cut that was going to give us covid level deficits if Trump got a full 8 years.
Republicans ARE NOT fiscally responsible, wish they would stop pumping this dumbass lie.
The only way Republicans seemingly can be fiscally responsible is by cutting entitlements.
Republicans ARE NOT fiscally responsible, wish they would stop pumping this dumbass lie.
- Clinton balanced the budget and left with a surplus.
- Obama saved the country from a depression and left with the stock market at an all-time high.
- Biden had lower post-covid inflation than any other country in the world.
- Reagan skyrocketed national debt more than anyone who preceeded him.
- Bush collapsed the economy with all his stupid deregulation policies.
- Trump was about to do the same had covid not happened.
The only way Republicans seemingly can be fiscally responsible is by cutting entitlements.
We entered a recession late 2019 I think. The economy started tanking, but Covid hit and people forgot
