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How many threads is nap going to derail with this Matt Stoller shyt? Who cares? I barely even know who this guy is.

Posting these losers on twitter and youtube all day and getting caught up in their "drama." It's lame af
I love the fact that I have no fukking clue who Matt Stoller is or what Nap has been doing.

That ignore feature. :wow:
 

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Their immigration policies were different, but anti-immigration policies pre-date Trump - they started with Clinton. Were Reagan a Republican in the post-Clinton world, he would have held onto the exact same principles - as Bush, Romney, Jeb, McCain, and Trump all have declared/purported to do.

Some of the latter post isn't really true - Reagan absolutely had isolationist and transactional views and policies he either implemented or advocated for - Trump is not an "actual" isolationist, he believes in meddling in international affairs and has done so throughout the entirety of his presidency.

As for the "conservative principles" piece - Trump does not deviate from conservative principles. Particularly what you're describing as "free trade."
Yeah, you don't know what you're talking :mjlol:
 

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All the crypto-fash Bernie dead Enders seeing their grift being exposed:

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Hawley was my professor in law school. Had him for a 14th Amendment class. He changed so much from what he was at that time in the effort to rise in the political ranks. And this is just another example of that. Many of my former classmates, like me, are pissed at this dude. He was this way when he was attorney general of Missouri and along his way to running for senate. Everyone around the school knew he had political aspirations and was a recaclican, but he’s gone full trump which makes it worse.
 

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Hawley was my professor in law school. Had him for a 14th Amendment class. He changed so much from what he was at that time in the effort to rise in the political ranks. And this is just another example of that. Many of my former classmates, like me, are pissed at this dude. He was this way when he was attorney general of Missouri and along his way to running for senate. Everyone around the school knew he had political aspirations and was a recaclican, but he’s gone full trump which makes it worse.
Y'all need to figure out among yourselves who connects to the public best and get on that opinion piece / interview circuit in 2024.

I used to know an aspiring repub on social media and I got all sorts of receipts screenshot and saved to unleash the flutes if he EVER make that run at the next level.
 

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He started his 1980 campaign in Philadelphia, MS home of one of the more brutal civil rights attacks just 25 years earlier.
You mean just 15 years earlier. Those men who did it were still walking free with the state of mississippi refusing to file murder charges against them despite the fact that the murder was solved cut and dried with one of the culprits spilling all the beans to the feds and the bodies found on another culprit's property buried by a fukking backhoe.

Reagan making a "states rights" speech at the Neshoba County Fair of all places was him telling his base that it was perfectly okay for the authorities to commit premeditated murder without consequences so long as they were targeting folk working for Black rights.
 

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im watching hawley on fox right now. this piece of shyt is the nominee in 24. hes up here spouting bernie sanders talking points :mjlol:

kamala better get that perfect vp ready

on a side note i wonder who it is :lupe: i assume she has one on standby
 

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This dude is going to get the full-court backing of the Trump family. His goofy-ass sons aren't running for prez, this is their candidate.


If he goes through with this, he'll kill his chances of running for POTUS before they start. It's one thing to have the full MAGA endorsement but it's another entirely to get the endorsement of the Republican establishment.

And before any of you come in here juelzing about "whats the difference?...", MAGA, like the tea-party, can't co-exist with the traditional GOP - you already see the in-fighting starting. Its going to be fun watching them eat themselves over the course of the next 4 years.
And this is the dilemma they've set up.... shyt was always dog-whistles and underhanded moves before, but now you gotta either co-sign Trumpian racism and fascism out in the open or your chance with the base are gone. Even if there's a 95% overlap, Trump may have fukked the Republicans over cause you lose that 5% in either direction and they need that to win.
 

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And this is the dilemma they've set up.... shyt was always dog-whistles and underhanded moves before, but now you gotta either co-sign Trumpian racism and fascism out in the open or your chance with the base are gone. Even if there's a 95% overlap, Trump may have fukked the Republicans over cause you lose that 5% in either direction and they need that to win.
i dont know to be honest

at the end of the day, it comes down to the presidential election and you only have one of two choices. they might have said fukk trump for one cycle but theyll be back

like the average republican independent who said i cant vote for trump in 20, isnt gonna be saying "i cant vote for hawley/rubio/cruz" in 24 because of this
 

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i dont know to be honest

at the end of the day, it comes down to the presidential election and you only have one of two choices. they might have said fukk trump for one cycle but theyll be back

like the average republican independent who said i cant vote for trump in 20, isnt gonna be saying "i cant vote for hawley/rubio/cruz" in 24 because of this
There are 3 choices. The 3rd choice is not voting or voting 3rd party - almost the same - and it's a real option chosen by just as many eligible voters as choose either of the two main candidates.

I think there are going to be a certain % of libertarians and independents who just plain won't be able to stomach it. They can't lie to themselves anymore and pretend the Republican party is the party of rights when they try so fukking hard to just disregard the vote, pardon their criminals, and co-sign the other protofascist tendencies of Trumpism. Even if they don't go Democrat, there are many of them who aren't going to be as motivated to donate, campaign, or vote as they used to be. And whoever comes next isn't going to have the same cult of personality / QANON / Falun Gong following behind him to offset the loses. Not to mention old folk dying, immigration, and white folk not having kids.

Plus it keeps the Republican party indefinitely tied to Trumpism, and the large majority of young people coming up and becoming new voters just think that's disgusting.
 

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There are 3 choices. The 3rd choice is not voting or voting 3rd party - almost the same - and it's a real option chosen by just as many eligible voters as choose either of the two main candidates.

I think there are going to be a certain % of libertarians and independents who just plain won't be able to stomach it. They can't lie to themselves anymore and pretend the Republican party is the party of rights when they try so fukking hard to just disregard the vote, pardon their criminals, and co-sign the other protofascist tendencies of Trumpism. Even if they don't go Democrat, there are many of them who aren't going to be as motivated to donate, campaign, or vote as they used to be. And whoever comes next isn't going to have the same cult of personality / QANON / Falun Gong following behind him to offset the loses. Not to mention old folk dying, immigration, and white folk not having kids.

Plus it keeps the Republican party indefinitely tied to Trumpism, and the large majority of young people coming up and becoming new voters just think that's disgusting.
dont be surprised at how well the republicans do in 24 if trump is outta the picture :hubie: the downballot this year told me all i need to know
 
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