Jordan Peterson makes a powerful logical argument

[MischievousMonkey]

I listend to more of his speech. He isn't wrong because he's talking about Western civilization. You want to understand how we work and think, start with the bible. Cultural relativism 101. What confuses me is he says ethics cannot be derived facts because there are far too many facts in the universe for us to account for (highly debatable but whatever).....therefore objectivity isn't achievable.....wtf has this crackhead been talking about these last 20 years?

Anyways, saying in round about way that religion can be a focus point for soft truths that we can't empirically justify....like Nietzsche said but this time a non believer is actually defending religion. Cocaine is a hell of drug

Discounting Ancient Greek philosophy altogether when discussing truth & Western Civilization sounds crazy as fukk, ngl.

We seem to inherit much more from them on this topic than the Bible.

What he's talking about on science, facts and ethics makes much more sense, however. It seems obvious that science cannot determine morality. But already, he conceptually slid from truth to morality, which are distinct...

 

[Robbie3000]

He sounds like a white Christian conservative version of Popa Wu.

Dont you know that if a man could flip hisself inside out, he’ll fall out and die god?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Jordan Peterson just pulled one of the most Jordan Peterson things ever.



* Logged onto Twitter solely to shyt on a plus-size Sports Illustrated model and tell her that she'd never be beautiful

* Got a bunch of hate-tweets in response

* Declared himself the victim and rage-quit Twitter because of "vicious insults"

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I saw this tweet:





So I checked. So far just in that day, before he rage-quit due to the "flood of insults" he was receiving, Jordan Peterson had already used Twitter to:

* insult a plus-size model and tell her she'll never be beautiful

* double-down on his insult and call those who disagree part of an "idiot philosophy"

* triple-down on his insult saying, "rage away, panderers"

* mock a cross dresser

* declare that neurodivergent folk are just narcissists who want to feel special

* mock people who "find comedy offensive"

* re-tweet James Lindsay calling University of Wyoming students "stupid little shyts"

* re-tweet "Libs of Tiktok" mocking a college student and added that the student was like a "typical two-year-old"

* re-tweet Gad Saad referring to Ibram Kendi's How to be Anti-racist as "utter bullshyt"

* re-tweet Glen Greenwald complaining that liberals always want to control what others say on the internet

* call a journalist an "out-of-touch central Canadian elitist"

* bytch that Twitter is too toxic

* insult a professor for daring to criticize Richard Dawkins' promotion of a Douglas Murray book (Murray is a scientific racist who Peterson supports)

* accuse the CBC of being liars

* mock academics

* referred to an author as "pathetic" for criticizing Peterson's climate change denial

* double down on insulting the author and said he'd be eaten by his own children (metaphorically)

* triple down on insulting the author and called him a "real bad faith player"

* mock someone as "faux-virtue-signaling, uninformed, and arrogant."

* mock Omar Alghabra for some vague unclear reason

* make another re-tweet of "Libs of Tiktok" mocking liberals

* attack an author and say "How appalling can you get?"

* mock a lawyer

* mock Evergreen College

* call the mayor of Chicago "delusional"

* attack a researcher and called them a liar

* attack Rolling Stone magazine

* call the NDP "a centralist elitist globalist mouthpiece hellbent on supporting @JustinTrudeau"

* complain that many young people have never heard an encouraging word in their lives



That's all in one day. And not even a full day because he quit the platform before the day was over.

He's not well. The crazy part is that he's right about Twitter - it is definitely a toxic place with too much negative behavior. But he's so unwilling to examine himself that he can't admit his entire persona is built around being a condescending and demeaning public personality, insulting anyone he disagrees with, and mocking "the libs" as being whiny snowflakes if they complain about a toxic atmosphere.

 

[88m3]

the lobsters are boiling

 

[GunRanger]

He always sounded like an idiot delving into things outside his expertise.

This is the only vid of his i care for

 

[Take It In Blood]

@Dafunkdoc_Unlimited is thecoli's version of Jordan Peterson

 

[MischievousMonkey]

Snowflake melt in a day

 

[Professor Emeritus]

He always sounded like an idiot delving into things outside his expertise.

Something too many "intellectuals" don't realize is that you don't have to be an idiot to say stupid shyt about an area outside of your expertise. You just have to be arrogant and uninformed. And far too many relatively smart people are so arrogant that they fail to adequately inform themselves when they're not within their specialty.

Peterson is doubly prone to this because he's a contrarian. He thinks that because "the experts" or "the mainstream" appears wrong to him in a field he knows well, that means they must also be wrong in other fields too. So rather than going to the most trusted sources to inform himself in areas like history, civil rights, climate science, virology, nutrition, race science, etc, he'll just gravitate to contrarians aligned with the right-wing contrarians that he's aligned with and thus end up attaching to one stupid wrong viewpoint after another.

 

[choc_cardigan]

He always sounded like an idiot delving into things outside his expertise.

This is the only vid of his i care for

What did you hear in that video that was awe inspiring and life changing?

 

[GunRanger]

What did you hear in that video that was awe inspiring and life changing?

Work it out yourself

 

[Fillerguy]

Peterson's reaction is completely on brand. He's irreligious but likes to pick holes in the non-religious/atheist arguments. Builds his own brand around destroying respectability politics/unrepressed speak then bytches and moans when he gets dragged in the marketplace of ideas.

He who fights with snowflakes might take care lest he thereby become a snowflake.

I referenced Nietzsche twice in the same thread, on the same topic. I don't even like that nikka lol

 

[choc_cardigan]

Work it out yourself

No that's not how that works. You said this is the only video I care for. No explanation of anything. I watched the video. I am now asking you what profound thought, what intelligent statement, what train of thought was displayed in that video that stood out of you?








Because that video was absent of anything profound, new or interesting.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

Jordan Peterson is very intelligent in his domain, which is psychology and maybe even sociology.
The problem with him is that he brings that same level of confidence he has in clinical psychology and applies it to other domains he is absolutely not an expert on, like climate change.

 

[null]

He always sounded like an idiot delving into things outside his expertise.

This is the only vid of his i care for

so deep ... true PhD stuff ...

he's clearly been watching "mac lessons"