Jon Stewart stays bringing the heat on gun crime statistics.

[Da King]

And nothing will ever change, doesn’t matter what the facts are

 

[Prodyson]

Guns exist in this world and aren't going anywhere. Yes they are a necessity for life. You live in Wonder Land.
Individuals have a God given right to self-defense.

Who the fukk are you to tell people what they need or should have?? You sound like a dictator.

The laws can be enforced. The DA's/Prosecutors have to have the will to do so.
Guns already have serial numbers and tracked from manufacturer to seller. FFL's keep records and are often audited by the ATF. Typical Liberal bullshyt, blame the companies who are not doing anything illegal instead of the people WHO CHOOSE to break the law.

Again what new gun laws do you propose that would actually achieve what you want (that haven't already been struck down for being un-constitutional)?

Either you don’t know the definition of necessity or you’re really an idiot. If you remove every single gun from this world today, we would all be fine.

I’ve never owned a gun (though I plan to get one) and I’ve made it 35 years. Not a NECESSITY. I also never mentioned what people SHOULD HAVE. You pulled that one out of your ass. That’s twice now you’ve made up shyt to make a terrible point.

I also didn’t blame companies for anything… so that makes three. But in a country where gun violence runs rampant, someone has to be regulated… and manufacturers and weapons contractors probably have the most direct control that could make a difference. So if they want to benefit from this capitalist society, its not unfair to give them additional responsibility in making sure the product they provide doesn’t harm the country. We do it with almost every other industry… from pharmaceuticals to motor vehicles.

I do have a couple of imperfect ideas for gun regulations but I would never propose them to someone like you (I have mentioned them on this site though) because you can’t see past your own nose to have a reasonable discussion about the pros and cons. You don’t want a solution, you just want your guns.

 

[boogers]

they really need to drop a season 3. i thoroughly enjoyed his new show.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

No he didn't. He pointed out that a majority of the gun confiscated in big Blue Cities come from outside that city or state. So that means the people who brought those guns into those cities were **say it with me** BREAKING THE LAW.

Criminals don't follow the fukking laws. No matter how many stupid fukking gun laws get passed that won't stop people from breaking the law.

Liberals live in a fantasy world where they think they can just pass laws and bad things won't happen.

They genuinely believe that it's the fault of other states that criminals from their state don't follow their law.

Other states don't have a "gun problem", your state has a criminal problem.

 

[saturn7]

Either you don’t know the definition of necessity or you’re really an idiot. If you remove every single gun from this world today, we would all be fine.

I’ve never owned a gun (though I plan to get one) and I’ve made it 35 years. Not a NECESSITY. I also never mentioned what people SHOULD HAVE. You pulled that one out of your ass. That’s twice now you’ve made up shyt to make a terrible point.

I also didn’t blame companies for anything… so that makes three. But in a country where gun violence runs rampant, someone has to be regulated… and manufacturers and weapons contractors probably have the most direct control that could make a difference. So if they want to benefit from this capitalist society, its not unfair to give them additional responsibility in making sure the product they provide doesn’t harm the country. We do it with almost every other industry… from pharmaceuticals to motor vehicles.

I do have a couple of imperfect ideas for gun regulations but I would never propose them to someone like you (I have mentioned them on this site though) because you can’t see past your own nose to have a reasonable discussion about the pros and cons. You don’t want a solution, you just want your guns.

I hope you are young, no excuse to be this naive.

If an emergency happens and the police is not around to protect then a firearm will be a survival necessity. You never know what the future holds, better to be prepared in all areas and that includes Defense.

Again with the fantasies but I'll play along. If you waved your magic wand and all guns disappeared WEAPONS would still exist.
Human beings who have the intent to harm others would still exist. Violence wouldn't magically stop. Humans were killing each other long before guns existed.

"I also never mentioned what people SHOULD HAVE. You pulled that one out of your ass. That’s twice now you’ve made up shyt to make a terrible point."

Bull fukking shyt you little wanna be dictator.

"I don’t give a damn if it takes a little extra effort to buy a gun, especially if it’s not a basic handgun or shotgun for home protection. Most people don’t beed anything other than one or two pistols."

You want to dictate the type and quantity of firearms people can own.

also didn’t blame companies for anything… so that makes three. But in a country where gun violence runs rampant, someone has to be regulated… and manufacturers and weapons contractors probably have the most direct control that could make a difference.

You did blame the companies, fukk your semantics!! How is wanting them to be held liable for something the did legally NOT blaming the company!!!

You think you are slick. You are a POS trying to worm your way out of your awful arguments by doing this semantics bullshyt.

As I said before these companies are already regulated, firearms tracked and given serial numbers and FFL's get audited by the Feds. Once the weapon is made and sold it is not the manufacturers responsibility what a person does. Why do yall hate personal responsibility so much? You sound like you want the government to be your mommy and daddy.

The government can't prevent everything bad from happening. People make choices, life happens. Laws alone can't fix everything.


"I do have a couple of imperfect ideas for gun regulations but I would never propose them to someone like you (I have mentioned them on this site though) because you can’t see past your own nose to have a reasonable discussion about the pros and cons. You don’t want a solution, you just want your guns."

Mention you bullshyt ideas, like i said before I'm sure they have already been proven to be un-constitutional or ineffective.

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

More guns in the hands of trained, responsible citizens.

The criminals are the ones who need to be afraid. And not of the cops.
The fact that criminals still do home invasions is baffling to me. They should expect to be met with a shotgun (at minimum).

THAT WON'T FIX IT. CRIMINALS WILL JUST ENTER WITH GUNS. JUST MORE PEOPLE DEAD INSTEAD OF A MISSING TV.

 

[King Static X]

They genuinely believe that it's the fault of other states that criminals from their state don't follow their law.

Other states don't have a "gun problem", your state has a criminal problem.

Nope, that's not it.

Criminals are just going where the guns are. If every state had fairly uniform gun laws, that would significantly hinder gun trafficking and simultaneously bring down gun crimes (along with other measures).

Also, states with lax gun laws allow guns to be trafficked into Canada and Mexico. Hurting those countries as well.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

Nope, that's not it.

Criminals are just going where the guns are. If every state had fairly uniform gun laws, that would significantly hinder gun trafficking and simultaneously bring down gun crimes (along with other measures).

Also, states with lax gun laws allow guns to be trafficked into Canada and Mexico. Hurting those countries as well.

Bingo.

If guns were as difficult to get, nationally, as a driver's and even a car to drive then the whole issue changes.

To buy a car you gotta go in, give ID, they run a credit/background check, then run all the shyt through a state registry so they can give you a paper plate, then you have to go and order your own permanent plate with tabs and updated insurance...

There's like 10 steps to LEGALLY own a vehicle in America.
To buy and actual killing device all I gotta do is drive to Indiana and give some good 'ole boy $350 for a lightly used M4 and I'm good to go.

 

[Everythingg]

I'm not sidestepping anything, I'm just calling

Calling names doesn’t change the fact that it’s disingenuous to have people that roll around with armed security telling average Americans to give up their guns…

 

[Everythingg]

Either you don’t know the definition of necessity or you’re really an idiot. If you remove every single gun from this world today, we would all be fine.

The constitution gives all Americans the right to bear arms in the CASE OF A TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT. Their words, not mine.

Allowing the govt to tell you to give up guns when they originally gave the right to bear arms incase they ever became tyrannical is an oxymoron. And criminals committing crimes never should affect the rights or privileges of law abiding citizens.

 

[Bar Razor]

No he didn't. He pointed out that a majority of the gun confiscated in big Blue Cities come from outside that city or state. So that means the people who brought those guns into those cities were **say it with me** BREAKING THE LAW.

Criminals don't follow the fukking laws. No matter how many stupid fukking gun laws get passed that won't stop people from breaking the law.

Liberals live in a fantasy world where they think they can just pass laws and bad things won't happen.

This is a “point” gun nuts use and it never stops being idiotic. First of all we could apply this dumb ass logic to any crime. Duh let’s not have any laws against murder because people are going to murder anyway! Secondly after the initial ban on assault rifles guess what? Shootings went down. In Australia there was a mass murder and the country came together to ban assault rifles and guess what? No mass shooting since. In fact numerous countries tightened gun laws and now their gun violence is very different from the US. More can be found here:

Other Countries Had Mass Shootings. Then They Changed Their Gun Laws. (Published 2022)

Britain, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Norway: All had a culture of gun ownership, and all tightened restrictions anyway. Their violence statistics now diverge sharply from those of the U.S.

www.nytimes.com

Finally studies show that before a gun is used in self defense it’s more likely to be used in a suicide, domestic violence, a toddler finding and hurting themselves or others etc.

Gun nuts have no valid arguments for why we need a country awash in guns given how much carnage they cause in the US - far more than any other developed nation.

Instead of their bullshyt arguments which are easily debunked I wish they’d just say “hey I feel like a big man with my gun. I just looove feeling manly that way and I don’t give a fuuuuck about anything else”. At least that’s honest.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

Nope, that's not it.

Criminals are just going where the guns are. If every state had fairly uniform gun laws, that would significantly hinder gun trafficking and simultaneously bring down gun crimes (along with other measures).

Also, states with lax gun laws allow guns to be trafficked into Canada and Mexico. Hurting those countries as well.

So everyone else has to give up their rights because criminals won't stop committing crimes? Yeah, nah...
A bad kid hits another kid with a stick, I take the stick and punish the kid. I don't ban kids from the park.

 

[saturn7]

THAT WON'T FIX IT. CRIMINALS WILL JUST ENTER WITH GUNS. JUST MORE PEOPLE DEAD INSTEAD OF A MISSING TV.

So how do we deal with these gremlins? They already don't fear the police.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

Bingo.

If guns were as difficult to get, nationally, as a driver's and even a car to drive then the whole issue changes.

To buy a car you gotta go in, give ID, they run a credit/background check, then run all the shyt through a state registry so they can give you a paper plate, then you have to go and order your own permanent plate with tabs and updated insurance...

There's like 10 steps to LEGALLY own a vehicle in America.
To buy and actual killing device all I gotta do is drive to Indiana and give some good 'ole boy $350 for a lightly used M4 and I'm good to go.

literally NONE of that is true.

 

[Goat poster]

I hope you are young, no excuse to be this naive.

If an emergency happens and the police is not around to protect then a firearm will be a survival necessity. You never know what the future holds, better to be prepared in all areas and that includes Defense.

Again with the fantasies but I'll play along. If you waved your magic wand and all guns disappeared WEAPONS would still exist.
Human beings who have the intent to harm others would still exist. Violence wouldn't magically stop. Humans were killing each other long before guns existed.

"I also never mentioned what people SHOULD HAVE. You pulled that one out of your ass. That’s twice now you’ve made up shyt to make a terrible point."

Bull fukking shyt you little wanna be dictator.

"I don’t give a damn if it takes a little extra effort to buy a gun, especially if it’s not a basic handgun or shotgun for home protection. Most people don’t beed anything other than one or two pistols."

You want to dictate the type and quantity of firearms people can own.

also didn’t blame companies for anything… so that makes three. But in a country where gun violence runs rampant, someone has to be regulated… and manufacturers and weapons contractors probably have the most direct control that could make a difference.

You did blame the companies, fukk your semantics!! How is wanting them to be held liable for something the did legally NOT blaming the company!!!

You think you are slick. You are a POS trying to worm your way out of your awful arguments by doing this semantics bullshyt.

As I said before these companies are already regulated, firearms tracked and given serial numbers and FFL's get audited by the Feds. Once the weapon is made and sold it is not the manufacturers responsibility what a person does. Why do yall hate personal responsibility so much? You sound like you want the government to be your mommy and daddy.

The government can't prevent everything bad from happening. People make choices, life happens. Laws alone can't fix everything.


"I do have a couple of imperfect ideas for gun regulations but I would never propose them to someone like you (I have mentioned them on this site though) because you can’t see past your own nose to have a reasonable discussion about the pros and cons. You don’t want a solution, you just want your guns."

Mention you bullshyt ideas, like i said before I'm sure they have already been proven to be un-constitutional or ineffective.

Quick question homie:

I'm gonna assume you are at least reasonable enough to believe that operating a vehicle should come with a license right?

I mean lives are at stake when a person gets behind a wheel unskilled right?



So why should something as serious as gun ownership not come with mandatory training and licensing?