Jon Jones & Daniel Cormier brawl at UFC Press Conference

[The G.O.D II]

Jones has an 84 inch reach the same as Ali, so he still had a reach advantage over Gus, it's not the reach, gus was the only fighter jones face who could throw hands

Roy is not dimensional, he has wrestling, a black belt in BJJ, and his trained by jeff Mayweather in boxing

Roy is 250, its a whole different league man why do you think they have weight classes, we've never seen jones against anyone that big, so he would have to prove himself moving to heavyweight

Cormier never lost a round at heavyweight, and he was fighting bigger people

jones lost a round to machida who is much smaller

Like said Cormier is the best fighter to fight Jones, this is the only UFC worth seeing in person at the moment

I'm not denying Gus has solid boxing. But do you think he would be effective if his reach was 75 like most of Jones opponents or 71 like DC? No. So kill that. I know Roy's ranks and credentials thanks. So tell me whens the last time he has subbed anyone? Thrown together a decent combo? Gone for a TD when he wasn't desperate from being gassed? He got taken down 6 times by Mir who is hardly a wrestler. So do you think Roy will have the same strength and power dropping down? I doubt it. And you can keep mentioning how DC has never lost a round, his wrestling, boxing which is all very impressive. But he wasn't doing this against Cain. He wasn't doing this against JDS. He wasn't doing this against Werdum. This is all against Starling, Mir, Nelson, Cummings.

 

[The G.O.D II]

Machida is deceptively strong, has excellent takedown defence, is much faster and is a better striker than DC. He has the tools/abilities to beat Cormier.

Stop it breh. Machida sucks. Nevermind he almost won the MW title against Weidman(who admitted Machida had him rocked. That emaciated, powerless Machida) Hes garbage and has no shot againt DC and his awesome wins against the great 195lb TRT less Hendo and some 4-0 amateur fighter who was making latte two weeks before he fought him

 

[The Infamous]

Argue with Machida stans brehs

I said Cormier would likely beat Machida. But to completely dismiss Machida and say he has no chance doesn't make any sense.

Machida would lose point blank period, machida couldn't even beat henderson in a decisive fashion

DC would choke him

Although the fight was relatively close, Machida was the clear winner.

DC would choke him out? Do you follow the sport? If DC wins, it's either by decision or TKO.

 

[The Infamous]

Stop it breh. Machida sucks. Nevermind he almost won the MW title against Weidman(who admitted Machida had him rocked. That emaciated, powerless Machida) Hes garbage and has no shot againt DC and his awesome wins against the great 195lb TRT less Hendo and some 4-0 amateur fighter who was making latte two weeks before he fought him

For a moment, I thought you were serious.
People dismissing Machida like he's some sort of can.

 

[Master Teacher]

I said Cormier would likely beat Machida. But to completely dismiss Machida and say he has no chance doesn't make any sense.



Although the fight was relatively close, Machida was the clear winner.

DC would choke him out? Do you follow the sport? If DC wins, it's either by decision or TKO.

Against Heavyweights

Machida is smaller, he would do him like he did henderson

 

[Master Teacher]

I'm not denying Gus has solid boxing. But do you think he would be effective if his reach was 75 like most of Jones opponents or 71 like DC? No. So kill that. I know Roy's ranks and credentials thanks. So tell me whens the last time he has subbed anyone? Thrown together a decent combo? Gone for a TD when he wasn't desperate from being gassed? He got taken down 6 times by Mir who is hardly a wrestler. So do you think Roy will have the same strength and power dropping down? I doubt it. And you can keep mentioning how DC has never lost a round, his wrestling, boxing which is all very impressive. But he wasn't doing this against Cain. He wasn't doing this against JDS. He wasn't doing this against Werdum. This is all against Starling, Mir, Nelson, Cummings.

Roy Nelson's last 5 wins are by KO what are you talking about

I didn't see the Mir fight
Mir is a ground submission specialist, and he couldn't submit im

STOP COMPARING HEAVYWEIGHTS

It's a different weight class man, the fact the Cormier competed their speaks volumes

 

[Master Teacher]

Stop it breh. Machida sucks. Nevermind he almost won the MW title against Weidman(who admitted Machida had him rocked. That emaciated, powerless Machida) Hes garbage and has no shot againt DC and his awesome wins against the great 195lb TRT less Hendo and some 4-0 amateur fighter who was making latte two weeks before he fought him

Yes MIDDLEWEIGHT, and he lost. To someone who's never lost a A ROUND AT HEAVYWEIGHT

kill yourself man

 

[Master Teacher]

I'm not denying Gus has solid boxing. But do you think he would be effective if his reach was 75 like most of Jones opponents or 71 like DC? No. So kill that. I know Roy's ranks and credentials thanks. So tell me whens the last time he has subbed anyone? Thrown together a decent combo? Gone for a TD when he wasn't desperate from being gassed? He got taken down 6 times by Mir who is hardly a wrestler. So do you think Roy will have the same strength and power dropping down? I doubt it. And you can keep mentioning how DC has never lost a round, his wrestling, boxing which is all very impressive. But he wasn't doing this against Cain. He wasn't doing this against JDS. He wasn't doing this against Werdum. This is all against Starling, Mir, Nelson, Cummings.

Just stop man, you said Gus had a reach advantage over jones, HE DOESN'T

Roy's wins come by KO, and he's passed his prime, but he's still too big for any of the light heavy weights to compete against him OUTSIDE of Jon Jones

 

[The Infamous]

Against Heavyweights

Machida is smaller, he would do him like he did henderson

It's possible, but unlikely. Machida has been submitted once in his career and that was when he got dropped/hurt by Jones. Even Cain said that Cormier's BJJ is one of his weaker areas/skills.

 

[The G.O.D II]

Roy Nelson's last 5 wins are by KO what are you talking about

I didn't see the Mir fight
Mir is a ground submission specialist, and he couldn't submit im

STOP COMPARING HEAVYWEIGHTS

It's a different weight class man, the fact the Cormier competed their speaks volumes

Exactly you fukking clown. He only has KO power. Hence why hes one dimensional. Stop moving the goal post. Its Roy is hard to take down. Then when I point out hes been out wrestled several times, including Frank Mir of all ppl, its now "bu..bu..but he didn't submit him." Cormier has not faced enough true quality comp at either weight. So what are you babbling about stop comparing HW?

Yes MIDDLEWEIGHT, and he lost. To someone who's never lost a A ROUND AT HEAVYWEIGHT

kill yourself man

You sound frustrated and furious. The point of that is we have witnessed both guys at 205 and what they are capable of. The fact that you think DC is going to demolish Machida and even sub him is ludicrous when Machida has been fighting at that weight the majority of his career against tougher comp. It will be a competitive close fight to this day. Cormier has never faced a guy with Macida quickness and elusiveness. And yes. Thats at either weight.

Just stop man, you said Gus had a reach advantage over jones, HE DOESN'T

Roy's wins come by KO, and he's passed his prime, but he's still too big for any of the light heavy weights to compete against him OUTSIDE of Jon Jones

And now heres the outright lie of your fury. I never once said Gus had a reach advantage. Hes slightly taller and the reach isn't so drastic as other Jones opponents, Hence why he was able to easily outstrike Jones, who was not use to that. Roy is barely 6 feet and has a lot of mass mainly due to his fat he caries around. The majority of guys at 205 are 6'1-6'3. Who knows what shape he will be in or how his physiqe would look once he has to cut weight for the first time. Plus hes almost 40. Hes not a threat at 205 even in his prime. He realistically should have been fighting at 185. Same with Cormier

 

[The Infamous]

Here is @Master Teacher ripping apart Cormier's competition, saying his HW wins are not valid and saying he doesn't deserve a shot at the title at all a couple of months ago:

- ''The fact he will be next in line for beating this old man...'' (referring to Dan Henderson)

- ''Heavyweight division and those 3 guys are passed it too'' (referring to Cormier's best three wins at HW)

- ''Cormier has yet to fight a contender yet he is next in line for the belt''

- ''Barnett is past it and has done nothing in ufc''

- ''Nelson is tough but the new breed are too athletic he has no chance at the title''

- ''Bigfoot is supppse to get beat''

- ''First off you talking about guys ranked in an entirely different divisions its not even valid none if the guys will even contend for belt either''

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/official-ufc-173-barao-vs-dillashaw-thread.216237/

Now he's heavily defending Cormier (and his opponents):

- Cormier as a legit heavyweight contender, this is jones biggest test

- there's nobody in the Light heavyweight division who can test cormier except jones

- Cormier was in line or the Heavyweight title, he's legit, Roy Nelson could beat everybody in the Lightheavy weight division maybe even jones, size matters

- Roy Nelson is not one dimensional you moron, just because he likes to stand up, you notice all his fights are standing because nobody can take him down not even cormier, roy is a true MMA artist as far as being able to do everything

 

[Master Teacher]

Exactly you fukking clown. He only has KO power. Hence why hes one dimensional. Stop moving the goal post. Its Roy is hard to take down. Then when I point out hes been out wrestled several times, including Frank Mir of all ppl, its now "bu..bu..but he didn't submit him." Cormier has not faced enough true quality comp at either weight. So what are you babbling about stop comparing HW?



You sound frustrated and furious. The point of that is we have witnessed both guys at 205 and what they are capable of. The fact that you think DC is going to demolish Machida and even sub him is ludicrous when Machida has been fighting at that weight the majority of his career against tougher comp. It will be a competitive close fight to this day. Cormier has never faced a guy with Macida quickness and elusiveness. And yes. Thats at either weight.



And now heres the outright lie of your fury. I never once said Gus had a reach advantage. Hes slightly taller and the reach isn't so drastic as other Jones opponents, Hence why he was able to easily outstrike Jones, who was not use to that. Roy is barely 6 feet and has a lot of mass mainly due to his fat he caries around. The majority of guys at 205 are 6'1-6'3. Who knows what shape he will be in or how his physiqe would look once he has to cut weight for the first time. Plus hes almost 40. Hes not a threat at 205 even in his prime. He realistically should have been fighting at 185. Same with Cormier

Machida lost to RAMPAGE, Cormier is better than all the light heavyweights he can only lose to jones

 

[Master Teacher]

Here is @Master Teacher ripping apart Cormier's competition, saying his HW wins are not valid and saying he doesn't deserve a shot at the title at all a couple of months ago:


http://www.thecoli.com/threads/official-ufc-173-barao-vs-dillashaw-thread.216237/

Now he's heavily defending Cormier (and his opponents):

JESUS CHRIST YOUR A DUMB ASS

I said he should fight Gus for the belt, His heavyweight wins aren't valid because he's moving to A DIFFERENT WEIGHT CLASS

if he would have fought Gus a few months ago we wouldn't be having to this discussion about his competition

but dumb asses like you were like NOOOOOOOOOOO, you will kill the cotenders

There's nothing in that post that contradicts anything I said in this thread

I just said Roy was past his prime, he's still too big for any of the light heavyweights besides Jones

I said Cormier and Gus should've fought for the spot instead of both of them getting easy fights

what don't you post the entire post, instead of picking out shyt

 

[Roman Brady]

Stop it breh. Machida sucks. Nevermind he almost won the MW title against Weidman(who admitted Machida had him rocked. That emaciated, powerless Machida) Hes garbage and has no shot againt DC and his awesome wins against the great 195lb TRT less Hendo and some 4-0 amateur fighter who was making latte two weeks before he fought him

couldnt be bothered reading this thread u will have to point to
me where it was written that machida "sucks" and your post would've been far more effective if you werent taking this roundabout route just to argue what a formidable opponent machida is for cormier in a fight that has no chance of happening in the immediate future. I mean can u say moot point

 

[The G.O.D II]

Machida lost to RAMPAGE, Cormier is better than all the light heavyweights he can only lose to jones

You really are holding on to these Rampage/Shogun losses for dear life huh? Rampage lost that fight and even he admitted that. The Shogun loss was an anomaly. 9/10 Machida beats Shogun. Esp now. It remains to be seen what Cormier is. He hasn't faced a top ranked opponent in any division since 12.