dennis roadman
nuclear war in my bag
Im not a scientist so i cant pretend that Im capable of authenticating whose is being honest and genuine with their research and who isnt
Naturally I do tend to side with the "mainstream" academia over a "maverick" thinker (not to say I am saying one is real and one is fake im speaking generally)
The Hopkins scientist does bring up a good point re: massive population increases of the European Jewish population. He attributes it to a mass conversion amongst the Khazars but main historical sources indicate the conversion was limited to the aristocracy only. But there is no alternative explanation for the population boom (not even sure if one is needed, i dont have access to data to determine whether the jewish population increase was natural birth or due to a mass conversion
Im also very concerned and skeptical about the fact that Harry Ostrer refused to provide the date he used for his studies to the Hopkins professor unless he explicitly stated it would not be used to "defame" the Jewish people. This leads one to speculate theres a politicization of the debate, and a hidden agenda on behalf of mainstream Jewish scientist
On the flip side, Harry Ostre himself states that yes all Jewish populations (Yemeni,Iraqi, European, Sephardic etc) share a Middle Eastern origin that is also prevalent amongst other Levantine populations (ie. Palestinian/Jordanian/Lebanese/Syrian Arabs). And we know that the original Jewish population not only stayed and dispersed but also converted to Islam or Christianity.
So Im not too sure if Ostre is actually making a Zionist argument because that aforementioned conclusion validates Palestinian rights to the land also (not to mention it confirms that Palestinian Arabs and Jews are closely related-relative speaking)
To me this argument is irrelevant anyways because it doesnt change the facts on the ground (ie. a Jew living in East Jerusalem is not going to leave because his ancestor was a Khazar Turk)
As I get older I realize how sad and tragic the whole partition was (and not just of the Holy Land but of the Indian sub continent as well )
To me the fact that Arabs are being pushed out of Jerusalem is just as tragic as the fact that Baghdad no longer has its Jews
1000 years of shared history and culture disappears within decades
my breh i feel like you have really evolved on this issue since i've been lurking and mildly posting in KTL/HL.
i agree with you 100% on the tragedy. european gentry dumped the jews on the arabs because they couldn't give a fukk less what happened to either of them. for centuries, europe had a self-described "jewish problem". you don't hear this term anymore for a reason. it's just not their problem anymore.
it speaks to the desperation of jews in europe that they were willing to accept help from the rulers that had been shytting on them for close to a thousand years in establishing a jewish state.
it's why i'd like to see a ONE-state solution, one of semitic peoples sharing and differentiating as they so please. palestinians and israelis both have a beautiful culture respectively and collectively. and just like jews were used to shyt on palestinians, palestinians are used by extremists to shyt on jews under the guise of righteousness.
) so i don't sway too far to either side, but i end up being torn up over it. 
