Slaimon Khan Shah
SLAIMON KHAN SHAH = SHAOLIN MONK/S OF ISLAAM
I INVITE ALL OF THE JEWS TO ISLAM (SUBMISSION TO GOD).
Johns Hopkins and Israeli geneticist debunks the Jews are a single race.
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seriously?most of these people are from Russia, Poland etc
German born jews that fought in WW1 for Germany and considered themselves German before Jewish were all eventually killed cuz of that thinking
German born jews that fought in WW1 for Germany and considered themselves German before Jewish were all eventually killed cuz of that thinking
yea I know, Hitler only had Jews working as some of his top scientist...oh that is until he found out that they were Jews
Seems he should have known that before hiring them, with Jews being a 'race' an all.
Slaimon Khan Shah
SLAIMON KHAN SHAH = SHAOLIN MONK/S OF ISLAAM
DA_EGGMAN. WHAT IS STOPPING YOU FROM EMBRACING ISLAM (SUBMISSION TO GOD)?
dennis roadman
nuclear war in my bag
Its called common sense people. I've stated this in plenty of threads.
Historically speaking, Germans could not tell the difference between a Jew or a regular 'white' person. Heck the Jews themselves will tell you its a religion not a race...
(Biblically speaking ) why do they say this...cause deep down they know they aren't from the Jacob/tribe... the term Ashkenaz (Nazi is derived from this word) is in Germany, Ashkenaz is a decendant of Gomer, & Gomer is a descendant of Japheth (which is stated in the bible as THE FATHER OF THE GENTILES)
His brother Shem is the one who birth the line of Israel.
guys this stuff isn't that hard.
ashkenazi means "of the german rite" and has never meant jews of a specific tribe, just jews of a certain tradition
and wtf you talkin about saying ashkenazi and nazi are of the same root?
got nothing to do with the biblical era name ashkenaz/ashkuz breh
also it's telling that this study and its methodology is being roundly criticized, yet people in here are willing to throw away decades of research for the sake of this one guy's proposal to make themselves feel more right
for the record: race is a man-made social paradigm. jews are not one race, yet can still be linked to a distinct group of tribes that banded together under their own political and religious beliefs and thus formed familial (and therefore genetic) relationships thousands of years ago.
ashkenazi means "of the german rite" and has never meant jews of a specific tribe, just jews of a certain tradition
got nothing to do with the biblical era name ashkenaz/ashkuz breh
also it's telling that this study and its methodology is being roundly criticized, yet people in here are willing to throw away decades of research for the sake of this one guy's proposal to make themselves feel more right
for the record: race is a man-made social paradigm. jews are not one race, yet can still be linked to a distinct group of tribes that banded together under their own political and religious beliefs and thus formed familial (and therefore genetic) relationships thousands of years ago.
sure it doesn't
save your confusion for others...I don't buy it, you said all of that only to come around and agree with what I said about the Jews not being a race. thanks though
Hulk Hogan
THE HULKSTER BROTHER
NAZI IS SHORT FOR NATIONALSOZIALISMUS, BROTHER! IN ENGLISH THAT'S NATIONAL SOCIALISM, DUDE! BUT DON'T MAKE THE MISTAKE MANY RON PAUL FANS MAKE, MEAN GENE! THE NAZIS WERE FASCISTS AND OPPOSED SOCIALISM, BROTHER! THEY PUT SOCIALISM IN THE NAME TO ATTRACT WORKERS AWAY FROM COMMUNIST MOVEMENTS AT THE TIME, DUDE!
dennis roadman
nuclear war in my bag
sure it doesn't
you aren't worth arguing with at all
also it's telling that this study and its methodology is being roundly criticized, yet people in here are willing to throw away decades of research for the sake of this one guy's proposal to make themselves feel more right
It's not about being feeling right it's about knowing what is right and wrong. Same theory of Whites Claiming Land in South Africa by saying they were originally born there.
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Fillerguy
Veteran
I thought they were Islamic
because there is nothing to argue aboutThe name Ashkenazi derives from the biblical figure of Ashkenaz. In the rabbinic literature, the kingdom of Ashkenaz was first associated with the Scythian region, then later with the Slavic territories, and, from the 11th century onwards, with northern Europe and Germany. The Jews living in these regions associated with Ashkenaz's kingdom thus came to call themselves the Ashkenazi. Later, Jews from Western and Central Europe also came to be called Ashkenazi because the main centers of Jewish learning were located in Germany.
Now the word Nazi is in this term is it not? Why is that? 'They' would have you believe that there is no relation to Nazi's & the Ashkenazi...which is asinine with both being known to be in Germany.
Furthermore...one only needs to look into the Balfour Declaration of 1917 (a full 20 years prior to the Holocaust) in a formal statement by the British government in a written letter to Walter Rothschild (one of the leaders of the British Jewish Community) documented in historical record in the British Library... for the purpose of such things. Upon further inspection you would note the Rothschilds have ties with the German Jewish community.
Don't mind me friend...you can look these things up for yourself.
Techniec
Drugs and Kalashnikovs
Im not a scientist so i cant pretend that Im capable of authenticating whose is being honest and genuine with their research and who isnt
Naturally I do tend to side with the "mainstream" academia over a "maverick" thinker (not to say I am saying one is real and one is fake im speaking generally)
The Hopkins scientist does bring up a good point re: massive population increases of the European Jewish population. He attributes it to a mass conversion amongst the Khazars but main historical sources indicate the conversion was limited to the aristocracy only. But there is no alternative explanation for the population boom (not even sure if one is needed, i dont have access to data to determine whether the jewish population increase was natural birth or due to a mass conversion
Im also very concerned and skeptical about the fact that Harry Ostrer refused to provide the date he used for his studies to the Hopkins professor unless he explicitly stated it would not be used to "defame" the Jewish people. This leads one to speculate theres a politicization of the debate, and a hidden agenda on behalf of mainstream Jewish scientist
On the flip side, Harry Ostre himself states that yes all Jewish populations (Yemeni,Iraqi, European, Sephardic etc) share a Middle Eastern origin that is also prevalent amongst other Levantine populations (ie. Palestinian/Jordanian/Lebanese/Syrian Arabs). And we know that the original Jewish population not only stayed and dispersed but also converted to Islam or Christianity.
So Im not too sure if Ostre is actually making a Zionist argument because that aforementioned conclusion validates Palestinian rights to the land also (not to mention it confirms that Palestinian Arabs and Jews are closely related-relative speaking)
To me this argument is irrelevant anyways because it doesnt change the facts on the ground (ie. a Jew living in East Jerusalem is not going to leave because his ancestor was a Khazar Turk)
As I get older I realize how sad and tragic the whole partition was (and not just of the Holy Land but of the Indian sub continent as well )
To me the fact that Arabs are being pushed out of Jerusalem is just as tragic as the fact that Baghdad no longer has its Jews
1000 years of shared history and culture disappears within decades
Naturally I do tend to side with the "mainstream" academia over a "maverick" thinker (not to say I am saying one is real and one is fake im speaking generally)
The Hopkins scientist does bring up a good point re: massive population increases of the European Jewish population. He attributes it to a mass conversion amongst the Khazars but main historical sources indicate the conversion was limited to the aristocracy only. But there is no alternative explanation for the population boom (not even sure if one is needed, i dont have access to data to determine whether the jewish population increase was natural birth or due to a mass conversion
Im also very concerned and skeptical about the fact that Harry Ostrer refused to provide the date he used for his studies to the Hopkins professor unless he explicitly stated it would not be used to "defame" the Jewish people. This leads one to speculate theres a politicization of the debate, and a hidden agenda on behalf of mainstream Jewish scientist
On the flip side, Harry Ostre himself states that yes all Jewish populations (Yemeni,Iraqi, European, Sephardic etc) share a Middle Eastern origin that is also prevalent amongst other Levantine populations (ie. Palestinian/Jordanian/Lebanese/Syrian Arabs). And we know that the original Jewish population not only stayed and dispersed but also converted to Islam or Christianity.
So Im not too sure if Ostre is actually making a Zionist argument because that aforementioned conclusion validates Palestinian rights to the land also (not to mention it confirms that Palestinian Arabs and Jews are closely related-relative speaking)
To me this argument is irrelevant anyways because it doesnt change the facts on the ground (ie. a Jew living in East Jerusalem is not going to leave because his ancestor was a Khazar Turk)
As I get older I realize how sad and tragic the whole partition was (and not just of the Holy Land but of the Indian sub continent as well )
To me the fact that Arabs are being pushed out of Jerusalem is just as tragic as the fact that Baghdad no longer has its Jews
1000 years of shared history and culture disappears within decades
Cat piss martini
Veteran
The Khazars want to keep the lie alive so they
can lie,cheat and steal like always.
the original semites were and will always be.....black
can lie,cheat and steal like always.
the original semites were and will always be.....black
dennis roadman
nuclear war in my bag
@thekingsmen genetics is not the even a secondary case for zionism
study linguistics some more please
The name Ashkenazi derives from the biblical figure of Ashkenaz. In the rabbinic literature, the kingdom of Ashkenaz was first associated with the Scythian region, then later with the Slavic territories, and, from the 11th century onwards, with northern Europe and Germany. The Jews living in these regions associated with Ashkenaz's kingdom thus came to call themselves the Ashkenazi. Later, Jews from Western and Central Europe also came to be called Ashkenazi because the main centers of Jewish learning were located in Germany.
Now the word Nazi is in this term is it not? Why is that? 'They' would have you believe that there is no relation to Nazi's & the Ashkenazi...with is asinine with both being known to be in Germany.
Furthermore...one only needs to look into the Balfour Declaration of 1917 (a full 20 years prior to the Holocaust) in a formal statement by the British government in a written letter to Walter Rothschild (one of the leaders of the British Jewish Community) documented in historical record in the British Library. The purpose of such things. Upon further inspection you would note the Rothschilds have ties with the German Jewish community.
Don't mind me friend...you can look these things up for yourself.
study linguistics some more please
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