JOHN WALL MESSAGE TO THE LEAGUE

[Remote]

This is wrong. Look at the Wizards before John Wall and after. He has absolutely elevated them when he’s on the court. With awful rosters around him and Beal and mediocre coaching at best. He’s literally the most successful Wizards player of the last 40 years lol

Compared to what?
The other players at his position in the league? Or the blow up dolls the Wizards were playing before John Wall?

If you want to argue Wall is good compared to Satoransky, you win

 

[boskey]

Compared to what?
The other players at his position in the league? Or the blow up dolls the Wizards were playing before John Wall?

If you want to argue Wall is good compared to Satoransky, you win

Compared to every player who has ever come thru the franchise. You can’t ignore the situation he was drafted into. The organization you play for means everything to a players career.

 

[Megadeus]

The world where he has failed to elevate the Wizards into anything other than a bottom tier eastern conference team. For those 19 points per game, he averages a True Shooting % of just .519. That's awful for a player with his natural abilities.

you literally just made this up.

Do you even watch eastern conference basketball? Wizards made the playoffs four of Wall's last five years healthy.

True shooting%?? What does some free throw and 3ppt algorithm have to do with "natural abilities"? Hes literally top 5-10 in player efficiency among PG's almost every single year averaging 19 and 10. Thats not "awful" nor is it average. Its pretty darn good.

Idk what it is with John Wall some ppl just be programmed to autohate

 

[Flight]

All Star Szn coming...word to my dawg @Black

 

[Remote]

you literally just made this up.

Do you even watch eastern conference basketball? Wizards made the playoffs four of Wall's last five years healthy.

True shooting%?? What does some free throw and 3ppt algorithm have to do with "natural abilities"? Hes literally top 5-10 in player efficiency among PG's almost every single year averaging 19 and 10. Thats not "awful" nor is it average. Its pretty darn good.

Idk what it is with John Wall some ppl just be programmed to autohate

Using 500 game started as a baseline,

In the years John Wall has been in the league, he's 10th out of 14th in value over replacement among PGs (half of what players like Westbrook and Harden have done)
He's 14th out of 14 in TS%.
He's 12th out of 14 in WS/48 minutes.
He's 11th out of 14 in FG%.

The best he's ever done is led Washington to a 4th place finish in 2016-17 and he was woefully inefficient against Boston in the playoffs and outplayed by Isaiah Thomas.
And now he's about to turn 30 years old coming off a major injury.

So really, what is it that you guys see in John Wall other than a supreme athletic marvel who can't do anything other than jack up inefficient shots and empty assists?
Is the PPG/APG slash line the only way you guys judge players?

John Wall is overrated and figures to only trend down given his age and health history.
But I suppose I get it.

If all you care about is a guy's highlights....that's going to loom larger in your minds than actual winning basketball.

 

[Remote]

John Wall with Washington (9 seasons):

.433 FG%
19 points per game
4.3 rebounds per game
9.2 assists per game
.519 True Shooting percentage

John Wall with Houston (29 games so far):
.414 FG%
21 points per game
3.4 rebounds per game
6.3 assists per game
.514 True Shooting percentage

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/john-wall-vs-kyrie-irving.134892/

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/is-john-wall-derrick-rose.273190/

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/john-wall-derozan-and-lowry.628803/

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/eric-bledsoe-vs-john-wall.201044/

 

[CarltonJunior]

21/3/6 isn't bad

 

[staticshock]

John Wall with Washington (9 seasons):

.433 FG%
19 points per game
4.3 rebounds per game
9.2 assists per game
.519 True Shooting percentage

John Wall with Houston (29 games so far):
.414 FG%
21 points per game
3.4 rebounds per game
6.3 assists per game
.514 True Shooting percentage

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/john-wall-vs-kyrie-irving.134892/

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/is-john-wall-derrick-rose.273190/

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/john-wall-derozan-and-lowry.628803/

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/eric-bledsoe-vs-john-wall.201044/

you’re really comparing 9 years to 20 something games

 

[Remote]

you’re really comparing 9 years to 20 something games

The sample size of 29 games is miniscule. You are absolutely right.

All I am saying is, has Wall done anything to date that suggests IN THE SLIGHTEST that he's any different from the player he has always been?