It has and has been since March. Dying with it does not equate dying from it.
John Hopkins: 2700+ died in the last 24 Hours In The U.S.
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It has and has been since March. Dying with it does not equate dying from it.
You can't be serious. In giant text across the top of that page:
NOTE: All data from 2020 and beyond are UN projections and DO NOT include any impacts of the COVID-19 virus.
You're looking at a data projection from last year that contains NO coronavirus fatalities and claiming that represents the current death rate.
I've already provided the specific country-by-country death rates. Where countries have been hit hard by coronavirus, the deaths spiked up dramatically (in some cases coming down part or all the way after the lockdown took effect). In countries that had a lockdown before they were hit hard, death rates have actually dropped, as things like car accidents, communicable disease, and stress-related disease all reduced.
Same shyt holds true state-to-state in the USA.
So why didn't those countries have these spikes previous years when their air quality was just as bad? These death rate spikes are literally unpredecented.
You seem not to realize that Spain and Belgium are already putting up per-capita numbers worse than Italy, and France, UK, Netherlands, Sweden, etc. are on the same track. Blaming it on air quality is bullshyt - if that were true then we'd see these numbers in every outbreak, and we NEVER have seen this shyt before. Italy only have 17,000 flu deaths in the average year for the entire season, they've already had 25,000+ COVID deaths and counting and it hasn't even been two months yet - they're aiming for the 40,000-50,000 number at least.
And where'd this shyt come, "I don't believe figures from the CDC or WHO". I would lay $50,000 that before this crisis you didn't know jack shyt about who and how death rates are compiled within either agency. You couldn't name ONE person responsible for those figures or even one position. You're just regurgitating opinions without any knowledge on them.
And unlike normal flu calculations, the coronavirus death rates in the USA aren't calculated by the CDC. They are determined by the actual hospitals and medical examiners reporting the deaths and added together by each state's Department of Health. You can always find the latest state-by-state numbers with the source for every one referenced right now, don't have to go through WHO or the CDC at all:
United States Coronavirus: 820,273 Cases and 45,430 Deaths - Worldometer
well because there is a vaccine, even with a vaccine 30-70k people still die of it
which is why even with a covid vaccine the numbers are still going to be high
They are scared, in denial mode. They can't fathom the idea that we are dealing with a deadly disease and that life as we knew it is over.
Sorry but shyt won't be back to normal anytime soon, sometimes reality is too harsh for some to grasp.
At this rate, the US will have to be quarantined from the rest of the world
Would you be letting Americans into your country right now?
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the bossman
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I don't know what to say anymore. nikkas talking about the random ass extra 40k+ deaths in a single month might have came from a couple bad cloud pockets of air pollution
At a certain point you just have to accept that some people are willingly choosing to think this stupidly. To the point of abandoning any kind of common sense.
It's been said many times before you can't change the minds of these types. Only once death hits their circle will they start to open their eyes.
Nothing to see here....carry along.
Oh and in Georgia don't forget to get your fresh haircut, hair done and nails done this coming Friday.
Enjoy the corona......I mean the reopening.
Oh and in Georgia don't forget to get your fresh haircut, hair done and nails done this coming Friday.
Enjoy the corona......I mean the reopening.
I don't know what to say anymore. nikkas talking about the random ass extra 40k+ deaths in a single month might have came from a couple bad cloud pockets of air pollution
At a certain point you just have to accept that some people are willingly choosing to think this stupidly. To the point of abandoning any kind of common sense.
It's been said many times before you can't change the minds of these types. Only once death hits their circle will they start to open their eyes.
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They are Trumpists ... moved from Trump 2020 and Obama / Hilary spam to this.
GiantGonzalez
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thwy don’t only test people with symptoms, because doctors are talking about patients in a completely diff area, with no symptoms test results come back positive in 2 weeks, now none of the staff wore PPE around this patient because they had no symptoms, but then none of those workers get sick either, so there’s major questions about contamination, bottom line no one knows exactly what’s happening, but if you believe what you’re hearing on Tv then you’re the idiot
You can't be serious. In giant text across the top of that page:
NOTE: All data from 2020 and beyond are UN projections and DO NOT include any impacts of the COVID-19 virus.
You're looking at a data projection from last year that contains NO coronavirus fatalities and claiming that represents the current death rate.
I've already provided the specific country-by-country death rates. Where countries have been hit hard by coronavirus, the deaths spiked up dramatically (in some cases coming down part or all the way after the lockdown took effect). In countries that had a lockdown before they were hit hard, death rates have actually dropped, as things like car accidents, communicable disease, and stress-related disease all reduced.
Same shyt holds true state-to-state in the USA.
So why didn't those countries have these spikes previous years when their air quality was just as bad? These death rate spikes are literally unpredecented.
You seem not to realize that Spain and Belgium are already putting up per-capita numbers worse than Italy, and France, UK, Netherlands, Sweden, etc. are on the same track. Blaming it on air quality is bullshyt - if that were true then we'd see these numbers in every outbreak, and we NEVER have seen this shyt before. Italy only have 17,000 flu deaths in the average year for the entire season, they've already had 25,000+ COVID deaths and counting and it hasn't even been two months yet - they're aiming for the 40,000-50,000 number at least.
And where'd this shyt come, "I don't believe figures from the CDC or WHO". I would lay $50,000 that before this crisis you didn't know jack shyt about who and how death rates are compiled within either agency. You couldn't name ONE person responsible for those figures or even one position. You're just regurgitating opinions without any knowledge on them.
And unlike normal flu calculations, the coronavirus death rates in the USA aren't calculated by the CDC. They are determined by the actual hospitals and medical examiners reporting the deaths and added together by each state's Department of Health. You can always find the latest state-by-state numbers with the source for every one referenced right now, don't have to go through WHO or the CDC at all:
United States Coronavirus: 820,273 Cases and 45,430 Deaths - Worldometer
Making a lot of assumptions, actually the CDC are overruling the hospitals on death count, they’re telling people how to fill out death certificates, watch the video of the Minnesota state senator if you don’t believe me.
How the fukk could the CDC overrule the hospitals on whether their patients died or not?
The part you keep ignoring is that these are EXTRA deaths. NYC has had 17,000 more EXTRA deaths than usual just between March 11 and April 18 alone. They've only listed 13,000 of those as COVID, so they're almost definitely undercounting deaths not overcounting.
Where the fukk do you think all those extra deaths come from? All your bullshyt about death certificates doesn't change the fact that TENS OF THOUSANDS OF EXTRA PEOPLE ARE DYING.
GiantGonzalez
Banned
How the fukk could the CDC overrule the hospitals on whether their patients died or not?
The part you keep ignoring is that these are EXTRA deaths. NYC has had 17,000 more EXTRA deaths than usual just between March 11 and April 18 alone. They've only listed 13,000 of those as COVID, so they're almost definitely undercounting deaths not overcounting.
Where the fukk do you think all those extra deaths come from? All your bullshyt about death certificates doesn't change the fact that TENS OF THOUSANDS OF EXTRA PEOPLE ARE DYING.
“The mark of an educated mind is to entertain an idea without accepting it” Aristotle
you’re literally looking at one source of info and making up your mind. That’s dumb as shyt, if 7 artists all draw a different piece of an elephant, you won’t know what you’re looking at until you put all the drawings together. Your arrogance that you somehow know better than others when all you’re doing is parroting the official narrative. It might surprise you but I actually have a TV and internet in my home so I’ve already heard your argument because it’s not even yours
You can't be serious. In giant text across the top of that page:
NOTE: All data from 2020 and beyond are UN projections and DO NOT include any impacts of the COVID-19 virus.
You're looking at a data projection from last year that contains NO coronavirus fatalities and claiming that represents the current death rate.
I've already provided the specific country-by-country death rates. Where countries have been hit hard by coronavirus, the deaths spiked up dramatically (in some cases coming down part or all the way after the lockdown took effect). In countries that had a lockdown before they were hit hard, death rates have actually dropped, as things like car accidents, communicable disease, and stress-related disease all reduced.
Same shyt holds true state-to-state in the USA.
So why didn't those countries have these spikes previous years when their air quality was just as bad? These death rate spikes are literally unpredecented.
You seem not to realize that Spain and Belgium are already putting up per-capita numbers worse than Italy, and France, UK, Netherlands, Sweden, etc. are on the same track. Blaming it on air quality is bullshyt - if that were true then we'd see these numbers in every outbreak, and we NEVER have seen this shyt before. Italy only have 17,000 flu deaths in the average year for the entire season, they've already had 25,000+ COVID deaths and counting and it hasn't even been two months yet - they're aiming for the 40,000-50,000 number at least.
And where'd this shyt come, "I don't believe figures from the CDC or WHO". I would lay $50,000 that before this crisis you didn't know jack shyt about who and how death rates are compiled within either agency. You couldn't name ONE person responsible for those figures or even one position. You're just regurgitating opinions without any knowledge on them.
And unlike normal flu calculations, the coronavirus death rates in the USA aren't calculated by the CDC. They are determined by the actual hospitals and medical examiners reporting the deaths and added together by each state's Department of Health. You can always find the latest state-by-state numbers with the source for every one referenced right now, don't have to go through WHO or the CDC at all:
United States Coronavirus: 820,273 Cases and 45,430 Deaths - Worldometer
About a reliable estimate of the death rate, check this:
Then, as to a clue how the numbers have been cooked by the states' Department of Health, check:
Numbers aren't entirely unprecedented in Europe. Check the numbers for excess mortality in early 2017 compared to the last few weeks of this year. Also, there are indications that the lockdown measures themselves may be contributing to extra deaths so even excess mortality isn't an entirely reliable indicator for the impact of corona/COVID-19.