Joey B! --- Official Biden 2020 Presidential Campaign Thread

[the cac mamba]

False, Bernie won North Dakota last Tuesday.

oh, sorry

 

[chico25]

This belief will always cause Bernie's movement to fail.

The belief that some powerful external power brainwashed EVERYONE BUT the people who voted for Bernie instead of looking inward at the clear political miscalculations the campaign made and learning from them.
Somehow in a world like America, where people support a p*ssy grabbing president, you can't fathom that people do not see Bernie as presidential material. Somehow you can't wrap your mind around the idea that some people find him likeable enough, but don't trust him to get his policy proposals enacted. Or that some people think Biden is more capable of taking the fight to Trump.
It's simpler for you to blame the media, or blame old brainwashed black folk instead of pointing that critical gaze inward.

After the first few contests the narrative was that despite the media coverage, Bernie had done enough to reach the people (remember that ground game that was touted in the Bernie thread and social media?) and that Biden by contrast, thought he could ride Obama's coattails but was failing utterly.

The tables changed and Sanders deserves no criticism, but yeah, Biden is just riding Obama's coattails to the win, when 3 weeks ago the Obama recognition and the MSM weren't enough to stop Sanders.

I never said anything about black people, besides that they don't like Pete, so let's not make this about race. Biden is clearly riding Obama's coattails, I never mentioned that argument before but it's clearly true when he has looked shaky in every debate and won states that he didn't campaign in on Super Tuesday.

People's perception of a candidate is shaped by what they see/hear from the candidate, what they hear about and what they believe they already know about the candidate. For Sanders, he had a hard time getting enough media attention for people who aren't online to hear from him directly, the MSM tells their viewers that he's not electable and they don't know much about him besides his consistency. That leads to him being liked by and voted for the most by the people who are most online to hear from him directly and somewhat liked but not voted for by people who believe the media saying he's not electable.

Biden on the other hand was mostly hidden, his campaign staff avoided having him do events. The MSM didn't say anything really negative about him while they were pushing other establishment candidates. So people defaulted to their previous knowledge of Biden as Obama's Vice president. That's why the majority of young people who see his gaffes and record online aren't voting for him and the older voters who are only seeing MSM talk about him being electable and think of him with Obama are overwhelmingly voting for him.

It's not a conspiracy, it's a bias. The fact is that Bernie's platform would eliminate or harm the major sponsors and parent companies of the MSM. He would eliminate health insurance companies and lower the profits of pharmaceutical companies. He would pull us out of some of our wars and lower the military budget, hurting Boeing and Raytheon. He would raise taxes on corporations overall as well as raising income taxes and putting in the wealth tax, both of which would effect some of these hosts directly.

 

[jj23]

I never said anything about black people, besides that they don't like Pete, so let's not make this about race. Biden is clearly riding Obama's coattails, I never mentioned that argument before but it's clearly true when he has looked shaky in every debate and won states that he didn't campaign in on Super Tuesday.

People's perception of a candidate is shaped by what they see/hear from the candidate, what they hear about and what they believe they already know about the candidate. For Sanders, he had a hard time getting enough media attention for people who aren't online to hear from him directly, the MSM tells their viewers that he's not electable and they don't know much about him besides his consistency. That leads to him being liked by and voted for the most by the people who are most online to hear from him directly and somewhat liked but not voted for by people who believe the media saying he's not electable.

Biden on the other hand was mostly hidden, his campaign staff avoided having him do events. The MSM didn't say anything really negative about him while they were pushing other establishment candidates. So people defaulted to their previous knowledge of Biden as Obama's Vice president. That's why the majority of young people who see his gaffes and record online aren't voting for him and the older voters who are only seeing MSM talk about him being electable and think of him with Obama are overwhelmingly voting for him.

It's not a conspiracy, it's a bias. The fact is that Bernie's platform would eliminate or harm the major sponsors and parent companies of the MSM. He would eliminate health insurance companies and lower the profits of pharmaceutical companies. He would pull us out of some of our wars and lower the military budget, hurting Boeing and Raytheon. He would raise taxes on corporations overall as well as raising income taxes and putting in the wealth tax, both of which would effect some of these hosts directly.

So a man riding coattails and with no money beat the biggest populist movement since Obama. That tells me either your movement wasnt as big as you thought, or that your leader wasnt as good as you thought.

 

[chico25]

So a man riding coattails and with no money beat the biggest populist movement since Obama. That tells me either your movement wasnt as big as you thought, or that your leader wasnt as good as you thought.

It's not big enough to overwhelm the older voters that are going with the safe familiar choice. It is what it is, not enough young people vote and many that did won't come out for Biden in November.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

The media would rather spend 72 straight hours before the biggest election day talking about a harmless 40yo quote from Bernie about Cuba than vet any of Biden's receipts.




Biden Boyz come get your man. You gonna just laugh this shyt off?

 

[jj23]

The media would rather spend 72 straight hours before the biggest election day talking about a harmless 40yo quote from Bernie about Cuba than vet any of Biden's receipts.




Biden Boyz come get your man. You gonna just laugh this shyt off?

You guys rip Biden for the stuff he said years ago as well.

On the Bernie thread the man is decribed as a racist paedophile....so what's the issue?

Everyone's in the mud

 

[Professor Emeritus]

You guys rip Biden for the stuff he said years ago as well.

On the Bernie thread the man is decribed as a racist paedophile....so what's the issue?

Everyone's in the mud

You just gonna blow that off?

 

[Wargames]

The media would rather spend 72 straight hours before the biggest election day talking about a harmless 40yo quote from Bernie about Cuba than vet any of Biden's receipts.




Biden Boyz come get your man. You gonna just laugh this shyt off?

Biden better wise up and come with policies black people can support. Cause he’s gonna need more than just older black people support in the GE.

 

[Warren Moon]

The media would rather spend 72 straight hours before the biggest election day talking about a harmless 40yo quote from Bernie about Cuba than vet any of Biden's receipts.




Biden Boyz come get your man. You gonna just laugh this shyt off?

You support a candidate who wrote about rape fantasies.

and the rest of the article before and after that statement is missing.

 

[Warren Moon]

Biden better wise up and come with policies black people can support. Cause he’s gonna need more than just older black people support in the GE.

Lol which Biden plans do u not support outside of medicare for all.

y’all mad when Biden/Bernie have overlap on like 75% of their agendas, it’s not about policy with y’all. You’re just mad Bernies going to lose

 

[jj23]

You just gonna blow that off?

No it's a hit job and I have seen nothing from Sanders to suggest he is racist.

There. Go and do the same.

 

[chico25]

Lol which Biden plans do u not support outside of medicare for all.

y’all mad when Biden/Bernie have overlap on like 75% of their agendas, it’s not about policy with y’all. You’re just mad Bernies going to lose

I tried to go to Joe's website to confirm what you said, since I haven't heard him mention much policy, and they want me to donate before I can see anything including policy. What I can say that I disagree with is a few things he's mentioned on the debate stage. He wants to keep troops in Iraq, his team just recently said that they want to adopt the Warren plan for student debt forgiveness, which is a means tested program that doesn't go far enough. According to studies his public option plan would cost more than Medicare for all and still leave millions without coverage. His climate change plan kicks the can down the road to 2050, long after he'll be dead, to get us off fossil fuels completely and scientists say that will be too late. Those are the only plans that I know he has because those are the ones he's been asked about on the debate stage. When people challenge him on issues at town halls he tells them to vote for someone else. I have no idea where he stands on criminal justice reform.


So show me these overlapping policies that you are talking about.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[OfTheCross]

That pressure from the left...


But how is he going to pass all this?

 

[Pressure]

Liz about to have a bigger impact than Bernard all because she was out here releasing full plans.