Joel Embiid is the official 2022-2023 Kia NBA MVP. First place votes (Embiid 73, Joker 15, Giannis 12)

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Congrats to him.

Well deserved. I like Jokic but his fans, stans, and a segment of the media became insufferable with their “great white hope” rallying energy. He's a great player but has become overrated by casuals and player centric “fans”.

I knew Embiid was going to win not just because of voter fatigue but due to him truly deserving the award, should've won the 2021 MVP IMO .

There wasn't much else Embiid needed to do to win MVP, he already solidified his claim the past two seasons, and to get snubbed again would've been shocking. Besides this season Joel's impact for the 76ers is bigger than Jokic and the Nuggets, unlike the previous two seasons where Joker was a “one man team” for Denver due to Murray and Porter Jr's absence, the Nuggets have a good enough team that could hold it's own for awhile without him on the court. You can't say the same for the Sixers without Joel especially with Harden being a shell of himself .

It's funny how Embiid is held to a higher standard in terms of needing to succeed in the playoffs while Jokic has been as equally unsuccessful as Joel and I don't wanna hear about that fluke WCF run in the bubble, it reminds me of how people bring up the Dame and Blazers WCF trip or the Atlanta Hawks fluke run a few seasons ago.

What happens when the Nuggets make the WCF this season? Is that going to be a fluke too?

 

[Unbothered]

What happens when the Nuggets make the WCF this season? Is that going to be a fluke too?

No because this season, they're number one in the West and had the fourth best record in the regular season. Their team is more legit than the one that made the WCF in 2020 .

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

No because this season, they're number one in the West and had the fourth best record in the regular season. Their team is more legit than the one that made the WCF in 2020 .

So then the expectation should be that Embiid makes the Finals, bare minimum, right? Otherwise, we can claim that he doesn't deserve to be the MVP?

I'm just trying to get it right as the goalposts keep moving over who deserves to be MVP.

 

[kdslittlebro]

Now that he got his MVP he better 100% realize the bar is raised for him. No fukking excuses. When he's healthy, no more pathetic flame outs anymore...

I'm an Embiid guy, but he lobbied for this like a muhfukka. So now it's put up or shyt the fukk up, period...

Spoiler

Ain’t shyt changed but the year on the calendar.

 

[Unbothered]

So then the expectation should be that Embiid makes the Finals, bare minimum, right? Otherwise, we can claim that he doesn't deserve to be the MVP?

I'm just trying to get it right as the goalposts keep moving over who deserves to be MVP.

MVP is an individual accolade award for the regular season.

Embiid has proven the past two seasons, including this season, that's he's MVP worthy and most would agree he should've won in 2021 but got snubbed.

The only people moving the goal post is Jokic stans looking to justify their guy winning a third straight voter fatigue might sound silly but it's real. Awarding the same player becomes repetitive and ignores the other great players and their impact on the game for their team, let's say if Jokic did win his third after averaging near a triple double and next season he tops that...are you going to award him a 4th straight time?

Players like MJ, LeBron, Kobe, Durant, Curry, etc have never won 3 in a row and those players are all better than Jokic, to say he's 3peat MVP worthy over some of those names is laughable.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

MVP is an individual accolade award for the regular season.

Then explain to me why Jokic's lack of postseason success was the main talking point used against him being deserving this season?

Embiid has proven the past two seasons, including this season, that's he's MVP worthy and most would agree he should've won in 2021 but got snubbed.

Embiid didn't get snubbed in 2021, he just didn't play enough games.

He played 51 and Jokic played 72.

Care to explain how he got snubbed when he player 20 fewer games than the MVP that season?

The only people moving the goal post is Jokic stans looking to justify their guy winning a third straight voter fatigue might sound silly but it's real.

What goalposts have Jokic stans moved?

As far as I've seen the only pro arguments for him winning MVP have everything to do with how he's performed this season; there hasn't been this campaign where they've gone out of their way to discredit other candidates, which is what Embiid and Giannis apologists have been guilty of all season. In fact, it's really what a lot of the basketball public has done, especially on this board. It's been less about who they think is MVP, and purely about not wanting him to win.

Awarding the same player becomes repetitive and ignores the other great players and their impact on the game for their team, let's say if Jokic did win his third after averaging near a triple double and next season he tops that...are you going to award him a 4th straight time?

It's not ignoring what other great players are doing, it's merely awarding the player who deserves it the most.

Just because Jokic won the last two seasons doesn't mean Embiid hasn't been great too. Same goes for other players. The MVP doesn't mean there's the perception only one player is great or is deserving. If Jokic won his third and played even better next season and deserved it, then he should be awarded it. As long as the player who's most deserving ends up winning, what's the issue?

It seems you're the one moving the goalposts here trying to add these qualifiers of, even if x-player is the best performer, they shouldn't be awarded with the MVP if they've won it before. The MVP shouldn't be about sharing, it should be about who's the best. We all know that if Jokic wasn't a fat Euro that y'all wouldn't be kicking up a fuss about him winning a third. There's a reason why there was contention over him winning his first in 2021.

Folks just don't want to give him credit because he's a living, breathing contrarian in a Black sport.

Players like MJ, LeBron, Kobe, Durant, Curry, etc have never won 3 in a row and those players are all better than Jokic, to say he's 3peat MVP worthy over some of those names is laughable.

The problem with this is, Jokic isn't competing against those players during that time. He's competing against players in 2023. Therefore, his merits should be judged solely on what happens during that season against his peers. Not against what happened in 1990. Not against what MJ did. Winning three MVPs doesn't mean he's better than anyone that hasn't won three MVPs in a row before. That's just a fictive y'all have conjured up in your heads because winning that amount makes that belief a reality for y'all.

 

[BucciMane]

1-0 on the Celtics
Jojo MVP

minus well make this a FREE DAP+REP thread

1-0 against the Celtics WITHOUT the "MVP".

 

[BucciMane]

Now that he got his MVP he better 100% realize the bar is raised for him. No fukking excuses. When he's healthy, no more pathetic flame outs anymore...

I'm an Embiid guy, but he lobbied for this like a muhfukka. So now it's put up or shyt the fukk up, period...

Exactly.

No issue with him winning it, but I've never seen a player cry and lobby for having people for them as MVP as I've seen with Embiid.

No more playoff flops for him. Spend more time playing and less time laying on the hardwood.

 

[BucciMane]

MVP is an individual accolade award for the regular season.

Embiid has proven the past two seasons, including this season, that's he's MVP worthy and most would agree he should've won in 2021 but got snubbed.

The only people moving the goal post is Jokic stans looking to justify their guy winning a third straight voter fatigue might sound silly but it's real. Awarding the same player becomes repetitive and ignores the other great players and their impact on the game for their team, let's say if Jokic did win his third after averaging near a triple double and next season he tops that...are you going to award him a 4th straight time?

Players like MJ, LeBron, Kobe, Durant, Curry, etc have never won 3 in a row and those players are all better than Jokic, to say he's 3peat MVP worthy over some of those names is laughable.

You're just making shyt up. .

 

[Conan]

Now that he got his MVP he better 100% realize the bar is raised for him. No fukking excuses. When he's healthy, no more pathetic flame outs anymore...

I'm an Embiid guy, but he lobbied for this like a muhfukka. So now it's put up or shyt the fukk up, period...

He don't answer to you or your barbershop Inside the NBA discussions

 

[Shadow King]

I wanted Jokic to win to watch you niqqas heads cave in

But salute to Joel, he deserved it and has before, it's just been a clash of historic big men.

That said I truly think the 3-peat MVP will never occur again, rings or not.

Terrible

 

[In The Zone '98]

3 straight without a ring would not be celebrated 30 years from now.

Voters woke up.

 

[Shadow King]

Crazy that there hasn’t been a guard as mvp since James Harden in 2018.

Even crazier that they've all been centers, which all things considered is the first position out the door if you had to eliminate a position in the NBA

Who will be the next MVP guard?

Should be a repeat. Dont let Embiid justifiably winnin take away from he was robbed last season



Luka, Ant or SGA or Ja

Fixed

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

Joel back

 

[JoelB]