Joe Rogan Reveals Kamala Harris Campaign Wanted Editorial Control Over His Podcast

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Now that this is over I'm glad some are admitting this was one of the most sad circle the wagon campaigns ever. You get caught admitting you need to gain ground among men, but refuse to go on any of the male-centered podcasts. The stiffness of mainstream Interviews and Townhalls (which she couldn't even do well when CNN had theirs in Pennsylvania) is exactly why alternative media holds the power it does now. I wouldn't blame her for not going on PBD's Podcast, but Joe Rogan, Theo Von, and even Dave Ramsey has people in the middle she would need. If they are out of line, the viewers make that decision at the end of the day. I remember watching the Howard Stern interview a couple of weeks ago and it was nothing but softballs.

I was fine with Tim Walz and preferred him over Josh Shapiro
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But even that selection was due to his willingness to be a lapdog and stay out of the spotlight, willing to avoid these interviews as well.
 
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I acknowledge she faces more obstacles as a mixed race woman but that doesn't cancel out reality. It doesn't make her flaws not real. Being a mixed race woman does not mean she should be shielded from any criticism or that any criticism is simply because of her gender or race.

There's plenty of women of all races in politics that speak with confidence and don't sound rehearsed every time they speak to the media. Jasmine Crockett, Katy Porter, Rashida Tlaib, AOC, Cori Bush, Ilhan Omar.

And there's plenty of white men that come across as robotic and rehearsed. Ron DeSantis, Marco Rubio, Mark Kelly, Rick Scott, Jeb Bush. Kamala's style of delivery is way more similar to those guys than the above mentioned women. It's a style that comes across as non-authentic, typical politician speak. Her race and gender have nothing to do with that. I'm not a Kamala Harris hater. I was glad she replaced Biden. She did a lot of things well during her campaign but she does have that glaring weakness.

She went on Howard Stern so we're not even gonna talk about previous guests. Howard Stern has had every degenerate scum bag in the country on his show. Rogan has definitely become a different person since his move to TX and has become a right winger but he's still pretty dumb when it comes to politics. Anyone with confidence would eat him alive if challenged by him and it wouldn't be hard to do.
Your response continues to miss the mark by clinging to superficial critiques and minimizing the real stakes of political media engagement.

Rogan isn't just "dumb" about politics; he's actively harmful. His platform amplifies vaccine denial, racist pseudoscience, and far-right extremism. It's not about who used to appear on Howard Stern, Stern isn't currently shaping political discourse in a way that undermines democracy. Rogan, on the other hand, gives millions of listeners a steady diet of misinformation and grievance politics. Showing up on his show wouldn't be a flex of confidence; it would be an act of complicity. It lends his platform legitimacy, even as he weaponizes every interaction to smear Democrats. I hate that they even entertained the idea.

Further, confidence isn't about running headlong into any confrontation for its own sake. It's about making smart choices. Rogan isn't a legitimate battleground; he's a cesspool. You're framing refusal to play by his rules as fear when it's actually discernment. Time was better spent on platforms that don't actively work to undermine her message or embolden far-right narratives. See: Fetterman.

These critiques amounts to little more than aesthetic nitpicking. Leadership isn't about catering to everyone's preferred style of delivery, it's about substance, vision, and strategy. By focusing so much on her tone and presence, you're missing the forest for the trees. The fact that we're still stuck on how she "comes across" rather than what her policies would have done to make lives better speaks volumes about the kind of superficial analysis that plagues political discourse today.

In short, the fixation on her style, the naive endorsement of Rogan as a "test" of confidence, and the shallow comparisons to other politicians all fail to account for the dynamics at play. Rogan's platform is one that thrives on bad-faith debate and misinformation. And it sucks to see so many people in here trying to legitimize that racist, meathead ape. Again, see: Fetterman.

Rogan might have been different to you guys years ago, but today, it is glaringly obvious that he is an active agent in furtherance of white supremacist goals. I always saw him as that, so nothing's really changed for me. But it seems hard for y'all to come to grips with that.
 

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You are incredibly stupid. And proud of it too.
Explain to me why suddenly joe rogans podcast was singularly more consequential than the debate, which had the same amount of views and actually impacted the polls. Whereas Rogan did not.

Please, challenge me with your superior intellect. And we'll see who looks stupid. (You won't though, just a fly by emotional insult by someone who cant articulate their ideas.)
 

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Explain to me why suddenly joe rogans podcast was singularly more consequential than the debate, which had the same amount of views and actually impacted the polls. Whereas Rogan did not.

Please, challenge me with your superior intellect. And we'll see who looks stupid. (You won't though, just a fly by emotional insult by someone who cant articulate their ideas.)

Rogan is a liberal. He was a hardcore liberal for decades. His podcast blew up over a decade ago because it attracted people from all over the political spectrum, even outside of the USA. His podcast got the reputation for being an unbiased longform conversation. Ie anyone could go on there and deeply espouse their views on whatever subject they wanted to, even if it was something unpopular or conspiracy level. All in all it became the most trusted source of information among the middle-aged and the youth.

So here you have a Presidential candidate that earned less than 2% of the votes in the Democratic Primary 4 years ago. She is deeply unpopular. The way she became the Presidential nominee did not sit well with people in her own party. Even in the ABC debate where she did well, she couldn't counter the rising tide of opinions that showed she constantly flip-flopped on her ideas from 4 years ago. Add in advocating for downright stupid ideas like taxes on unrealized gains, 60 minutes getting caught editing her interview answers (this was huge blow with the older generations), and Kamala's inability to show basic understanding of policy and many were questioning here viability.

All that said, your job is to CONVINCE voters. Trump and Vance were everywhere. Kamala was being hid from the media. People rightfully called her out on this. So, when you have the chance to go on a 3 hour discussion to dig deep and really explain you views and positions - unedited, you TAKE it. When it came out that she didn't do it because Rogan wouldn't accept her demands, it backfired. She came off as unprepared and the rumors about her not really knowing shyt and saying anything to get elected only intensified.

The electoral and popular vote results pretty much confirm how the American population felt about behavior like that. She was just a puppet of the DNC.
 

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You can make that exact case with a lot of those podcasts and why each candidate chose to go to the ones that they did.

None of those podcasters are actually journalist and know how to keep their bias out of it do an actual interview.
Podcasters are the new journalists and old media does not move culture like that anymore
 
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Hubris and arrogance

When you're running for president you go where the people are. This "You need to go where she is" shyt is insane:dahell: this thread is a social experiment at this point because these posts are crazy. Who the fukk is Kamala supposed to be that people gotta seek her out?
This is why she lost and why the Democratic Party need to be abandoned
 

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Rogan is a liberal. He was a hardcore liberal for decades. His podcast blew up over a decade ago because it attracted people from all over the political spectrum, even outside of the USA. His podcast got the reputation for being an unbiased longform conversation. Ie anyone could go on there and deeply espouse their views on whatever subject they wanted to, even if it was something unpopular or conspiracy level. All in all it became the most trusted source of information among the middle-aged and the youth.

You must not keep up with Joe Rogan, This was a relevant talking point maybe in the beginning of 2016. Once Bernie sanders got screwed, Joe basically campaigned against Hillary Clinton, but wasn't fully in camp for Trump. During 2020, when he got called out for saying the N word, comparing black people to monkeys, and spreading misinformation on vaccines, he started to only criticize democrats primarily, but still...he would atleast have on leftist commentators like Jon stewart, David Pakman, Kyle Kulinski, Rhonda Patrick, etc.

Now fast forward to today, and before him recently having on John Fetterman, he hadn't had a leftist commentator on since Bill Maher in September of 2023. Even prior to that, started sparingly having them on. Meanwhile having on everyone else from Tucker Carlson, to Musk, to Peter fukking Thiel, to Dr. Phil to Kid Rock, Patrick Bet David, Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh and many more trump supporters *exclusively*.

Even positions he used to debate people like Candace Owens on, like climate change, he reversed and is in complete denial of today...

So your idea that Rogan is a Liberal...is incorrect today and for the past few years. This is common consensus.

So here you have a Presidential candidate that earned less than 2% of the votes in the Democratic Primary 4 years ago. She is deeply unpopular.

Her favorability was significantly higher than Trumps in objective reality. Democratic turnout, was simply too low.

The way she became the Presidential nominee did not sit well with people in her own party. Even in the ABC debate where she did well, she couldn't counter the rising tide of opinions that showed she constantly flip-flopped on her ideas from 4 years ago.

She rose in the polls by 3 points after the debate, while Trump was flip flopping about cats and dogs and abortion consensus.

Add in advocating for downright stupid ideas like taxes on unrealized gains,

As opposed to 20%(or more) tarrifs that we would end up paying for?

60 minutes getting caught editing her interview answers (this was huge blow with the older generations), and Kamala's inability to show basic understanding of policy and many were questioning here viability.

She literally demonstrated an economic plan during the debate, and a healthcare plan; whereas Trump only had """concepts of a plan""" there is no comparison in terms of who actually demonstrated more policy positions.

All that said, your job is to CONVINCE voters. Trump and Vance were everywhere. Kamala was being hid from the media.

Trump cancelled more actual appearances and debates than Kamala...and went on podcasts that already leaned in his direction.


People rightfully called her out on this. So, when you have the chance to go on a 3 hour discussion to dig deep and really explain you views and positions - unedited, you TAKE it. When it came out that she didn't do it because Rogan wouldn't accept her demands, it backfired. She came off as unprepared and the rumors about her not really knowing shyt and saying anything to get elected only intensified.

We have no evidence what so ever that Joe Rogan cost her the election more than say...Gaza fracturing the base and lower democratic turn out by 13 million vites.

The electoral and popular vote results pretty much confirm how the American population felt about behavior like that. She was just a puppet of the DNC.

Her policies, and progresive policies in general...are still more popular

Minimum wage increases? More popular

Pro union and labor? More popular

Progressive health care initiatives? More popular

Roe v Wade? More popular

And once again, Trump merely maintained his same support from 2020, in fact lost 3 million votes by comparison. Whereas democratic turnout was low. So considering the popularity of leftist policies, the popular vote had more to do with Trump maintaining his base, and Kamalas not turning out.
 

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He has the most views, impressions and subscribers.
Ok but why? When did he become the voice of the people? I don't get why Joe Rogan of all people is such an important figure.

It's funny the only people ever who told me to listen to Joe Rogan were white boy's working construction who would complain about everything that's not a white man or benefits them.

Just off of that, I knew I wasn't gonna feel him or his podcast.
 

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It's not so she can "win the election". The bytch is running for president and didn't go on the biggest podcast in the world. A podcast where Trump got 50 million views in a week. Thinking she couldn't use that exposure is insane

Running for president means leaving no stone unturned, and that's what Trump and his team did:manny:

Exactly; she blew a huge opportunity.
 

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I reccomend this whole video for better context, but @3:27 kyle kulinski breaks Joe Rogan down, amd shows the hypocrisy between what he *used*to say, and positions he *used* to carry, compared to today. He shows all of joe rogans old clips.
 

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We must be in Bizarro World
cause the outcome of the US presidential election hinging on appearing on Joe Rogan's podcast
is ludicrous to me.
The world is different now. News is becoming more independent. Less people have cable and don’t watch tv. Podcasts are how people inform themselves on who people are these days. You’re just out of touch. Podcasts are the new media.

Why not Howard Stern. Is he still a thing?
The fukk
She went on Stern but he’s a has been.
 
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