Joe Budden - Wake (Drake Diss)

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If the whole point of responding to Meek so quickly and mocking him for not responding fast enough was to prove how good Drake is at rapping then you would think that Joe Budden, a much better lyricist than Meek Mill is on his worst day, would be someone you would hit back at to prove your skills.

He wrote a whole fukking verse dissing Puff Daddy in 2016....let's think about that one for a minute while also saying 'Joe Budden isn't worth responding to'
Drake and his fans know deep down that Drake will lose against a credible lyricist. He'd rather have industry drama with tweets and memes mixed with subliminal jabs than to be going bar for bar with someone that have all bars and nothing to lose. U cant win going against Joey. Joey fans and Drake fans know this.
 

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1. Jaz-O got a diss like 8 years after the fact and it was half a bar, so by your analogy Drake can wait for 8 years and give him half a bar.

NOPE.



That 'half a bar' you were talking about was on Blueprint 2....and guess what? He said his name, directly.


2. Meek is a relevant emcee who is respected on every level commercially, street wise and musically. Joe Budden is strictly respected lyrically in 2016, not even musically and that's by a small group of cats (a lot more now that he has Drakes dikk in his mouth to share it with the other nikkas with his dikk in their mouth)

Drake called Joe Budden one of the greats when he was selling 15,000 records his first week so relevance and album sales mean NADA, by Drake's own actions. He acknowledged him as a great when he was just as irrelevant as he is now.

You don't get to move the goal post cuz you aren't Drake, breh. We know that relevance and album sales didn't factor in before and it doesn't now.

3. You don't have to respond with a full track who the hell said that? And who the hell said that you have to respond to a dude that a majority of the relevant hiphop fanbase (high school - to college age) had to google.

Who cares if non-hiphop CHILDREN had to Google him :snoop: How can you type that as a grown man and supposed Hip Hop head with out feeling some type of way about yourself :snoop: Besides, what kids are listening to Puffy? No one. Yet he got a whole verse.

I didn't say he had to respond with an entire track but he has to respond on a track. This is Hip Hop. If Drake was expecting Meek to respond right away then it's all fair to expect him to respond to Joe Budden.


And I don't know if you cats listen to Budden it doesn't seem like it. The only influence he had on Drake was being a world class simp for thots. Drake being up and coming and dikkriding him just like he was dikkriding just about everyone is completely irrelevant in 2016. Just cause I tell my boss that he's the man doesn't mean that it's my opinion, I'm just trying to get ahead in life.

Word to @H.J.Duck I don't even like dood. Im not a fan. I think hes actually a fukking idiot and if I had to choose between Drake's music or Joe Budden's music stuck on an island, 101 times out of 100 I'd pick Drake's music. I listen to Drake's music more than Budden.....but when you are a true Hip Hop head and you try to keep it 100, you call it exactly how its laid out. That's what I am doing...

Now what in the flying fukk about dikk riding super irrelevant Joe Budden got him anywhere breh :snoop: I can't believe you typed that either, honestly.


Personally I'm really not for beef with a 37 year old dude, specially not when he's dissing cats for no reason at all. Young dudes settling their differences with rap skills instead of violence is dope, battle emcees coming up with the best jokes about people with rhymes is dope but this shyt is just embarrassing to me.

You may not be for the beef but Drake is. Puffy is almost 50 fukking years old.

And he is dissing him for a reason, Drake was taking a shot at him. There is video of it for christ sakes breh.
 
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The shyt that's crazy to me is, numerous people on Twitter pointed out the Drake/French snippet on IG sounded like a Budden diss. I've even posted those Tweets in this thread.

Budden listened, and agreed.

Let's go full retard and assume all those people wanted to start a Budden/Drake beef for no apparent reason. A bunch of strangers banded together to spread the lie that Drake dissed him, and Budden's paranoid ass fell for it. That makes no fukking sense, but let's roll with it.

Even if I ignore how none of that makes any sense....it still doesn't explain why Drake and/or French removed the snippet from IG directly after word spread it was a diss. It doesn't explain why the song still hasn't come out, and neither artist has even mentioned it.

I guess it can be argued that the song was "tainted" by Budden thinking it was about him....but it's not as if these guys don't know each other. Even if he hasn't talked to Drake in a while, Budden does know French and he could've said "nah, you're bugging, it's not about you" and released the song. But nah, they made the song disappear. It makes you wonder.:jbhmm:

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Budden isn't exactly a simp compared to Drake...

And you're trying to make it seem that Drake in 09 gained something by giving props to Budden who was signed to Amalgam fukkin Digital, still had problems with Hov, didn't have the Eminem connection yet, and who's album sold (can't believe this has to be said again) 13k records in the first week? The same Drake who's So Far Gone mixtape had already dropped back then? The same mixtape which had FOUR features by Lil Wayne who had JUST sold millions of records? But Drake just had to tell Budden he's one of the greats to get ahead in life.

:whoo:
 

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More importantly he said all this when Budden was selling 13,000. Literally, selling 13,000. So obviously relevance and record sales do not factor into whether or not Drake thinks an artist is great, or worth paying attention to. So....why do his fans use those things as excuses as to why Drake doesn't need to respond?

I won't even get into Drake wanting to battle Mook, who is even less relevant than Budden. I've covered that ad nauseum.

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You make way too much sense and are way too logical for this board
 

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This would be an excellent excuse and all but it's flawed. Let's start with the fact that you think Meek Mill is worth responding to but Joe Budden isn't.....

See Drake was influenced by Joe Budden directly. He called him one of the greats. They were cool at one point, all buddy buddy. This is not the same as Papoose dissing Kendrick when Papoose wasn't the one being dissed on Control. When it came to people who influenced Jay, he responded to them. That's why Jaz-O and Nas both got shots sent directly.

Back to the Meek Mill thing, the reason Drake jumped and wanted to 'rap' was to prove he could rap. To prove he was still an MC even if a few hits had ghost writers. Joe is dissing him for using ghost writers and saying he can't rap but now Drake doesn't want to do it. That easy target isn't there so now the goal posts have been moved by his fans....

Subliminal vague shots are not responding when you've been called out your name breh. You have to respond with a track. This is Hip Hop. And unless you want to put Drake in the 'pop artist' category, people will expect him to respond.

Bulletproof argument here:salute:

I only disagree with the part where you say Meek is the easy target:comeon:...no way in hell in 2016 can Meek be considered an easy target but Budden aint...Budden probaly lost his last 3 battles:mjlol:

This aint Bi Shot Joe Budden and everybody knows it,while better than most,this is some weird version of Joe Budden who battle raps like Eminem:scust:...he can save the rest of these disses unless we bout to get sum classic Triangle Offense,jumpoff style disses:banderas:

Guess Joe forgot what Ja Rule did to his boss:pachaha:
 

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Bulletproof argument here:salute:

I only disagree with the part where you say Meek is the easy target:comeon:...no way in hell in 2016 can Meek be considered an easy target but Budden aint...Budden probaly lost his last 3 battles:mjlol:

This aint Bi Shot Joe Budden and everybody knows it,while better than most,this is some weird version of Joe Budden who battle raps like Eminem:scust:...he can save the rest of these disses unless we bout to get sum classic Triangle Offense,jumpoff style disses:banderas:

Guess Joe forgot what Ja Rule did to his boss:pachaha:

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All these nikkas in here claiming Joe was paranoid need to be put on blast.

Nah this nikka was still paranoid,Drake has plenty of those "If the shoe fits wear it:sas1:" subliminals....That seem like they COULD be about particular peers,but you could come off as a paranoid /sensitive a$$hole by gettin at Drake for those bars...lets be honest,joe made himself hear disses in Drake rhymes that probaly wasnt about him,because he wanted his shot.

We gon act like in his mind ,him and Jayz have been having a subliminal war for years:laff:
 

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Nah this nikka was still paranoid,Drake has plenty of those "If the shoe fits wear it:sas1:" subliminals....That seem like they COULD be about particular peers,but you could come off as a paranoid /sensitive a$$hole by gettin at Drake for those bars...lets be honest,joe made himself hear disses in Drake rhymes that probaly wasnt about him,because he wanted his shot.

We gon act like in his mind ,him and Jayz have been having a subliminal war for years:laff:

"Tell them ordinary Joes, button up"

The Only Person Jay Z Follows on Twitter Right Now Is Joe Budden
 

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Nah this nikka was still paranoid,Drake has plenty of those "If the shoe fits wear it:sas1:" subliminals....That seem like they COULD be about particular peers,but you could come off as a paranoid /sensitive a$$hole by gettin at Drake for those bars...lets be honest,joe made himself hear disses in Drake rhymes that probaly wasnt about him,because he wanted his shot.

We gon act like in his mind ,him and Jayz have been having a subliminal war for years:laff:

Wasn't no if the shoe fits...there were CLEAR shots @ Joey on 4PM in Calabasas if you were paying attention.
 
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