Joe Budden - Wake (Drake Diss)

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While I understand why Drake didn't respond, and it's completely withing his power not too, he lost (even more) credibility as an MC.

nikka has come at other people for less. But he knows he won't win this one lyrically so I get it.
Did Jay-z and Kendrick Lamar lose credibility?

Or is it just that no one gives a fukk besides Drakes haters, the same nikkas that create 2000 post threads about people like Mo-G :snoop:

Certain people deserve immediate attention, Joe is not one of them. He should be happy if Drake responds at all. And his delusional ass claims he's dissing Drake due to Drake constantly dissing him. If that is true, Drake doesn't have to respond he's already dissed him 200 times.
 
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:pachaha: How am I just now finding out about this track. No wonder Drake isn't responding, his casual listeners would wonder who he is referring to.

But :damn: Joe went in.
 

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Did Jay-z and Kendrick Lamar lose credibility?

Or is it just that no one gives a fukk besides Drakes haters, the same nikkas that create 2000 post threads about people like Mo-G :snoop:

Certain people deserve immediate attention, Joe is not one of them. He should be happy if Drake responds at all. And his delusional ass claims he's dissing Drake due to Drake constantly dissing him. If that is true, Drake doesn't have to respond he's already dissed him 200 times
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Seriously. :salute:
 

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Did Jay-z and Kendrick Lamar lose credibility?

Or is it just that no one gives a fukk besides Drakes haters, the same nikkas that create 2000 post threads about people like Mo-G :snoop:

Certain people deserve immediate attention, Joe is not one of them. He should be happy if Drake responds at all. And his delusional ass claims he's dissing Drake due to Drake constantly dissing him. If that is true, Drake doesn't have to respond he's already dissed him 200 times.

This would be an excellent excuse and all but it's flawed. Let's start with the fact that you think Meek Mill is worth responding to but Joe Budden isn't.....

See Drake was influenced by Joe Budden directly. He called him one of the greats. They were cool at one point, all buddy buddy. This is not the same as Papoose dissing Kendrick when Papoose wasn't the one being dissed on Control. When it came to people who influenced Jay, he responded to them. That's why Jaz-O and Nas both got shots sent directly.

Back to the Meek Mill thing, the reason Drake jumped and wanted to 'rap' was to prove he could rap. To prove he was still an MC even if a few hits had ghost writers. Joe is dissing him for using ghost writers and saying he can't rap but now Drake doesn't want to do it. That easy target isn't there so now the goal posts have been moved by his fans....

Subliminal vague shots are not responding when you've been called out your name breh. You have to respond with a track. This is Hip Hop. And unless you want to put Drake in the 'pop artist' category, people will expect him to respond.
 

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This would be an excellent excuse and all but it's flawed. Let's start with the fact that you think Meek Mill is worth responding to but Joe Budden isn't.....

See Drake was influenced by Joe Budden directly. He called him one of the greats. They were cool at one point, all buddy buddy. This is not the same as Papoose dissing Kendrick when Papoose wasn't the one being dissed on Control. When it came to people who influenced Jay, he responded to them. That's why Jaz-O and Nas both got shots sent directly.

Back to the Meek Mill thing, the reason Drake jumped and wanted to 'rap' was to prove he could rap. To prove he was still an MC even if a few hits had ghost writers. Joe is dissing him for using ghost writers and saying he can't rap but now Drake doesn't want to do it. That easy target isn't there so now the goal posts have been moved by his fans....

Subliminal vague shots are not responding when you've been called out your name breh. You have to respond with a track. This is Hip Hop. And unless you want to put Drake in the 'pop artist' category, people will expect him to respond.
Exactly. A n1gga like Drake gets slaughtered on a track so hard that his fans pick and choose who he responds too. They cant combat Joey's direct jabs at Drake so they call him irrelevant. But let Young Thug diss Drake they're all in.
 

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Exactly. A n1gga like Drake gets slaughtered on a track so hard that his fans pick and choose who he responds too. They cant combat Joey's direct jabs at Drake so they call him irrelevant. But let Young Thug diss Drake they're all in.

If the whole point of responding to Meek so quickly and mocking him for not responding fast enough was to prove how good Drake is at rapping then you would think that Joe Budden, a much better lyricist than Meek Mill is on his worst day, would be someone you would hit back at to prove your skills.

He wrote a whole fukking verse dissing Puff Daddy in 2016....let's think about that one for a minute while also saying 'Joe Budden isn't worth responding to'
 

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See Drake was influenced by Joe Budden directly. He called him one of the greats. They were cool at one point, all buddy buddy.

More importantly he said all this when Budden was selling 13,000. Literally, selling 13,000. So obviously relevance and record sales do not factor into whether or not Drake thinks an artist is great, or worth paying attention to. So....why do his fans use those things as excuses as to why Drake doesn't need to respond?

I won't even get into Drake wanting to battle Mook, who is even less relevant than Budden. I've covered that ad nauseum.

Fred.
 

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This would be an excellent excuse and all but it's flawed. Let's start with the fact that you think Meek Mill is worth responding to but Joe Budden isn't.....

See Drake was influenced by Joe Budden directly. He called him one of the greats. They were cool at one point, all buddy buddy. This is not the same as Papoose dissing Kendrick when Papoose wasn't the one being dissed on Control. When it came to people who influenced Jay, he responded to them. That's why Jaz-O and Nas both got shots sent directly.

Back to the Meek Mill thing, the reason Drake jumped and wanted to 'rap' was to prove he could rap. To prove he was still an MC even if a few hits had ghost writers. Joe is dissing him for using ghost writers and saying he can't rap but now Drake doesn't want to do it. That easy target isn't there so now the goal posts have been moved by his fans....

Subliminal vague shots are not responding when you've been called out your name breh. You have to respond with a track. This is Hip Hop. And unless you want to put Drake in the 'pop artist' category, people will expect him to respond.
1. Jaz-O got a diss like 8 years after the fact and it was half a bar, so by your analogy Drake can wait for 8 years and give him half a bar.
2. Meek is a relevant emcee who is respected on every level commercially, street wise and musically. Joe Budden is strictly respected lyrically in 2016, not even musically and that's by a small group of cats (a lot more now that he has Drakes dikk in his mouth to share it with the other nikkas with his dikk in their mouth)
3. You don't have to respond with a full track who the hell said that? And who the hell said that you have to respond to a dude that a majority of the relevant hiphop fanbase (high school - to college age) had to google.


And I don't know if you cats listen to Budden it doesn't seem like it. The only influence he had on Drake was being a world class simp for thots. Drake being up and coming and dikkriding him just like he was dikkriding just about everyone is completely irrelevant in 2016. Just cause I tell my boss that he's the man doesn't mean that it's my opinion, I'm just trying to get ahead in life.


Personally I'm really not for beef with a 37 year old dude, specially not when he's dissing cats for no reason at all. Young dudes settling their differences with rap skills instead of violence is dope, battle emcees coming up with the best jokes about people with rhymes is dope but this shyt is just embarrassing to me.
 
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And I don't know if you cats listen to Budden it doesn't seem like it. The only influence he had on Drake was being a world class simp for thots. Drake being up and coming and dikkriding him just like he was dikkriding just about everyone is completely irrelevant in 2016. Just cause I tell my boss that he's a God doesn't mean that it's my opinion, I'm just trying to get ahead in life.

Budden isn't exactly a simp compared to Drake...

And you're trying to make it seem that Drake in 09 gained something by giving props to Budden who was signed to Amalgam fukkin Digital, still had problems with Hov, didn't have the Eminem connection yet, and who's album sold (can't believe this has to be said again) 13k records in the first week? The same Drake who's So Far Gone mixtape had already dropped back then? The same mixtape which had FOUR features by Lil Wayne who had JUST sold millions of records? But Drake just had to tell Budden he's one of the greats to get ahead in life.
 
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And you're trying to make it seem that Drake in 09 gained something by giving props to Budden who was signed to Amalgam fukkin Digital, still had problems with Hov, didn't have the Eminem connection yet, and who's album sold (can't believe this has to be said again) 13k records in the first week? The same Drake who's So Far Gone mixtape had already dropped back then? The same mixtape which had FOUR features by Lil Wayne who had JUST sold millions of records? But Drake just had to tell Budden he's one of the greats to get ahead in life.
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Budden isn't exactly a simp compared to Drake...

And you're trying to make it seem that Drake in 09 gained something by giving props to Budden who was signed to Amalgam fukkin Digital, still had problems with Hov, didn't have the Eminem connection yet, and who's album sold (can't believe this has to be said again) sold 13k records in the first week? The same Drake who's So Far Gone mixtape had already dropped back then? The same mixtape which had FOUR features by Lil Wayne who had JUST sold millions of records? But Drake just had to tell Budden he's one of the greats to get ahead in life.
I'm not saying that Drake is saying it to get ahead, I'm saying that what you say might not be what you mean.
Listen to the damn thing, Drake is just being kind to a dude that was somewhat a legendary figure around that time. He's never even mentioned Joe when Joe isn't filming him and riding his dikk. Drake calls anyone he's cool with a great rapper. And Joe was really a great rapper, in 2007-2010 if you were a hiphop fan back then you would know that real hiphop heads were fukking with Joe.

I was a big Drake fan, I know that he's a big dikkrider, for women, rappers, sports and on. He's changed a bit now, either you dudes are super naive cats getting tricked everyday, imbeciles or just trolling if you can't read that situation.


This is my last word on this subject, I can't stay discussing this with a bunch of dudes that dikk ride not only a dude they don't fukk with this hard. But another dude that is dissing the dude they don't fukk with just for that fact. :scust:

And furthermore, the discussion is completely irrelevant until Drake decides how he's gonna proceed.
 

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If the whole point of responding to Meek so quickly and mocking him for not responding fast enough was to prove how good Drake is at rapping then you would think that Joe Budden, a much better lyricist than Meek Mill is on his worst day, would be someone you would hit back at to prove your skills.

He wrote a whole fukking verse dissing Puff Daddy in 2016....let's think about that one for a minute while also saying 'Joe Budden isn't worth responding to'
Funniest thing is iv seen drake stans downplay Joe by saying he lost to lil b because he didn't bother responding...
Like how retarded do they have to be to not see the irony in that lol
 

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Budden isn't exactly a simp compared to Drake...

And you're trying to make it seem that Drake in 09 gained something by giving props to Budden who was signed to Amalgam fukkin Digital, still had problems with Hov, didn't have the Eminem connection yet, and who's album sold (can't believe this has to be said again) 13k records in the first week? The same Drake who's So Far Gone mixtape had already dropped back then? The same mixtape which had FOUR features by Lil Wayne who had JUST sold millions of records? But Drake just had to tell Budden he's one of the greats to get ahead in life.
:mjlol: :whew::salute:
 
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