Joe Biden selects Senator Kamala Harris as his VP Pick

[ADevilYouKhow]

Ok

You are.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

You are.

Cool

 

[A.R.$]

In your initial post, you only mentioned a chamber of Congress once and that was with concerns about Biden/Harris losing them in the mid-term. It’s because I’m aware that you know how the government works that I call you fixated on the executive. It isn’t about understanding, you’re talking about bold action while neglecting to mention the branch of government tasked with actually taking them. Passing good legislation is more meaningful than anything Biden can do on his own that’s my point.

Biden’s most recent comments on the filibuster:

“It’s going to depend on how obstreperous they become,” Biden said of Republicans during a session with opinion journalists this month. “But I think you’re going to just have to take a look at it.”​

He doesn’t want to do it, but he’s open to it if necessary. Since last year Schumer has said eliminating the filibuster “isn’t off the table.” The problem is they would need to eliminate it by a simple-majority vote and I’m not sure they’d have the votes. That’s why mentioned Feinstein by name, she’s more of a problem than Biden and Schumer.


My point about executive power and EOs isn’t to say we shouldn’t exercise them, merely that you need to be strategic about it because setting precedent is apparently more damaging than most realize. Unlike the conservative jurists, liberal ones respect precedent and don’t seek to overturn it for purely political reasons. So no, you don’t just act loose with EOs when more Trump judges are being appointed as time goes on, which increases the probability that you’d get one.

As for Roberts, you’re giving him far too much credit, Kennedy also but he’s not relevant. Roberts only sided with the liberal justices on the citizenship question because of the Stephanie Hofeller leaks. Roberts is the one who pretended racism is over when SCOTUS gutted the Voting Rights Act (Kennedy helped with that). For every positive DACA vote he’s made, there are terrible Muslim ban and border wall funding votes he’s also cast. My point is, folks love citing the several times Roberts’ has sided with the liberal justices but always neglect to mention the reasons he’s done so or how frequent that is. Even if I’m not high on Kennedy, his reasons for voting with the liberal justices were genuine -- Roberts’ does it for optics. The man is a corporatist, not in the European sense, he seldomly rules against those interests. Is that the guy you want as the “swing vote” in a case where POTUS's ability to unilaterally cancel student debt is in question? Of course not.


We have similar sentiments on Biden on these issues; however, the major difference is I don’t view Biden as driving the conversation so my skepticism of him is passive. He will sign whatever bill Congress sends him, so his follow-through and success on accomplishing these things done will be tied to Congress. This is mostly true for every president though. Given his history in the Senate and his love of making deals, I do believe he will insert himself into negotiations that appear to be stalling. Hopefully, we don’t get any more “grand bargains.”

I believe Harris will be running point on criminal legal issues for the administration when they work with Congress. She’s done good things during her time as a prosecutor, such as Back on Track, and I don’t think they should be summarily dismissed. However, her issue is she tends to lean towards “ends justify the means” approaches (e.g. approach to truancy and wanting to weaken HIPAA privacy protections) when solving problems, which shows she's not driven by progressive ideology. The VP has no "real" power, so that means she won’t be able to lean into her worst tendencies. I do believe she’ll push him on marijuana, it’s too easy of a win not to, but whether or not she’s successful is another matter.




Unfortunately, we both know what to expect here -- Biden is a part of the foreign policy establishment. Some actions may be curtailed by the need to rebuild trust internationally, but I do largely expect them to get back to business as usual. Harris has nothing to offer on foreign policy and she will be a part of the foreign policy establishment by the time she runs on her own. Nothing about her should lead anyone to believe otherwise.

Finally, I don’t have a problem with critiquing Biden/Harris, I have a problem with people putting everything on them when many of these issues need to be addressed by Congress. You can include foreign policy to that list as well.

This thread is about the VP selection, so the majority of the conversation will revolve around the Executive Branch. I also think you are underselling the power of the executive branch. Yes there is checks and balances, but the scenario we are discussing is the Dems having control of the White House and both branches of Congress. The president is the head of the party and can put intense pressure on members of Congress. Again, the bully pulpit is extremely impactful if used correctly. Yes congress control the budget, confirm cabinet appointments and can force the president hand to either sign or veto legislation. I never denied that Congress would need to pass most of the legislation I support. I used the very same argument against Bernie Sanders supporters when it comes to MFA (which I fully support btw). My point is the president set the narrative and political discussion.Especially when their party is in control of Congress. When a president supports a legislation it is talked about more and becomes more mainstream.

As far as the Supreme Court, I’m not saying Roberts or Kennedy are/was good justiceis. Roberts is a fukkboy that supports laws to make it harder for Black people to vote. My only point is he is not an automatic conservative vote like Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch, and Kavanaugh. The Affordable care act was on the verge of getting completely struck down. Roberts vote was key to keeping some form of the act, even though he fukked up the Medicaid expansion portion of the law. He have went against the conservatives on a few different cases. The only point I was making is it may not be an automatic lose. But, yes I wouldn’t want to take my chance in the Supreme Court.

The quotes you shared of Biden and Chuck on the filibuster is what I was referring to. Like I stated they are not explicitly stating they get rid of the filibuster. Chuck is weak, and Biden likes to my deals with Republicans. At this point it should be clear the Mitch have no intention of working with Dems in any capacity. I’m not confidence in either one of them doing what needs to be done.

As far was Kamala her senate record have been pretty decent, and I would of been all for her becoming senate majority leader. But her AG record is pretty bad. IMO she is the type of politician that will go whatever why the wind is blowing

 

[King Static X]

Joe probably made the right pick.

Nearly nine out of 10 Democrats approve of U.S. Senator Kamala Harris as their party’s vice presidential nominee, and she is more popular than presidential candidate Joe Biden among women, young voters and some Republicans, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Wednesday.

The Aug. 11-12 public opinion survey also found that 60% of Americans, including 87% of Democrats and 37% of Republicans, considered the selection of Harris - the first Black woman and Asian American nominated for vice presidency - to be a “major milestone” for the United States.

The latest poll also found that 56% of Americans have a favorable impression of Harris, which is about the same as the number who favor Biden. Forty-two percent of U.S. adults say they have a favorable view of Trump and 47% said the same of Pence.

Among women, 60% said they have a favorable view of Harris, compared with 53% who felt the same way about Biden. Women are the dominant force in American elections: they make up a bigger proportion of the U.S. electorate than men, and a surge in support for Democrats among white, college-educated women helped the party retake the U.S. House of Representatives in 2018.

Harris also is a little more popular among American adults who are younger than 35 years old: 62% said they view Harris favorably, while 60% said the same of Biden.

SOURCE: Exclusive: Harris could help Biden with women, young voters, maybe some Republicans too - Reuters/Ipsos poll

It's one poll but this is really good news for Biden .

 

[YoNoSe]

I avoided this thread yesterday. The amount of flawed logic I read on here and social media was astounding.

Congrats to Kamala. I genuinely hope she does well.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[jj23]

You right. @jj23 I apologize for coming at you sideways

Not an issue, par for the course with this board. My point wasn't an attempt to get at you sideways either. A lot of people spent time on this site saying Trump was a better pick than Hillary. Lots of people still believe that shyt. America is suffering because of it and when America suffers the world suffers. If you promoted Trump as the best pick in 2016, you have to leg to stand on criticising the Dem pick in 2020.

 

[The axe murderer]

 

[King Static X]

TLR is not real life

 

[FAH1223]

 

[Supercoolmayo]

Apprently social media is once again not representing average voter

 

[88m3]

Apprently social media is once again not representing average voter

The same pride I felt in Obama getting elected is the same pride I'll feel in Kamala being elected and ever more so dear as she's a Jamaican American and Trump will be out of office.

 

[the cac mamba]

with some of what ive seen on the news and social media, i think we're about to see a WIDE swath of women getting excited about kamala

 

[THE MACHINE]

Life comes at you fast

He said 99%....not 100

 

[winb83]

He said 99%....not 100

That 1% found a way.