Joe Biden selects Senator Kamala Harris as his VP Pick

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I haven't been following the VP 'race' too closely, can someone explain to me where the fukk did Susan Rice push come from? :hhh: Is her name throw around just to make the eventual Kamala Harris announcement more palatable?
Apparently, many Obama/Clinton advisers are pushing for her. Also, some people in Biden's team are pushing Rice because they don't like Kamala.
 

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Kamala had the most racially and socioeconomically diverse primary supporters before she dropped out.

However, many of the big donors flocked to the newest shiny object (mainly Buttigieg & Warren) and because of that her money ran out. Her primary base wasn't enough to sustain funds without large donations.

Also, Iowa & New Hampshire being the first 2 states didn't help Kamala at all lol. If South Carolina was the first state she probably wouldn't have dropped out and she would have gone farther.

She's from California :troll:

If South Carolina was first, I still think she would have gotten washed. Biden was always going to win it. Bernie was the only other person with a pulse down there. Warren was polling in the teens there too. Kamala was in the mid to high single digits.
 

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She's from California :troll:

If South Carolina was first, I still think she would have gotten washed. Biden was always going to win it. Bernie was the only other person with a pulse down there. Warren was polling in the teens there too. Kamala was in the mid to high single digits.
Disagree, I don't think Clyburn goes against a Black candidate down there if it's a first/early primary.
 

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Classic smart dumb nikka propaganda

nikka get the fukk outta here wit your bullshyt.

You a clown..

usually when someone resorts to one word responses and name calling, it’s because they are emotionally unstable and/or has no meaningful rebuttal.

your clinging to the same old same is predictable and I take it as a compliment.
 

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Disagree, I don't think Clyburn goes against a Black candidate down there if it's a first/early primary.

If it was first, Biden still wins it. Maybe by like 10 points. Bernie if you recall was surging in the polls in January. He probably still gets that 20%.

Where does that leave Kamala? 3rd? 4th? Steyer was dropping funny money down there too.
 

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I haven't been following the VP 'race' too closely, can someone explain to me where the fukk did Susan Rice push come from? :hhh: Is her name throw around just to make the eventual Kamala Harris announcement more palatable?
Joe trusts her and they have good working relationship(that's the main point). She's probably one of the most qualified people in government, period. She's been a part of every Democratic presidential campaign since the late 80's I believe. Knows all the international players. And...she's a black woman.

Joe could let her run foreign policy and not have to peer over her back at every turn.

The only thing she doesn't have is that she's never been an elected official.

She has more than enough bandwidth to handle the position though.
 

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He didn't do shyt for black people in this country
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im not really gonna speak on that, but strictly from an objective standpoint; black unemployment dropped as a total percentage more under obama than any other president. it went from 16 percent to 7 percent

that's really "doing nothing"?
 
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So you’re saying she’s just a figure head and people will get in line like zombies because that’s the natural order, in addition to just being plain lazy.
i think that the goal is to defeat the second worst president in american history, and be realistic about it

let's win in 2020 first. save all that radical overhaul left wing shyt for 2024 :yeshrug:there's no reason anyone should be staying home for kamala when fukking trump/pence/barr are the alternative :dead:
 

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If it was first, Biden still wins it. Maybe by like 10 points. Bernie if you recall was surging in the polls in January. He probably still gets that 20%.

Where does that leave Kamala? 3rd? 4th? Steyer was dropping funny money down there too.
I mean as it stood, Biden wasn’t really up and running at that point. I don’t think 3rd is getting washed if it’s to Biden and Sanders. I mean it maybe semantics but my general point is that she wouldn’t have been immediately out and probably in a better position that she was after the current early primaries.
 
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People's lives are on the line every fukking day. Read the response and note the context. It wasn't about policy, it was about a VP pick to appeal to the left. My response was to say, the left who are vocal on twitter but who don't translate it into a vote?

Let go of the red mist and read. Nina Turner could be VP. It doesn't stop Biden from pushing draconian policies if he wanted to.
I read the context. Champion was saying Rice doesn't excite him because of her moderate political leanings. You responded saying a leftist would have no use besides exciting twitter leftists who don't vote. My point is that the ideology itself is the biggest factor/value. Biden could probably run the board if he chose Jeff Flake or Mitt Romney as his running mate, but what are you expecting a White House with that ideological makeup to actually...you know...do? That seems to be what's missing from a lot of these VP discussions...the actual performance of the job. People don't seem to be looking beyond the election, as if the point of a Presidential Administration is to simply be elected as opposed to actually governing. Biden will be captain of the ship regardless of who he picks as his VP, but personnel is policy. Having voices in the room is critical.

The pro-Rice contingent keeps boosting her FP credentials, I'd like to know what actual FP policies they're hoping she would push Biden on. What policies are the pro-Kamala contingent hoping she will guide Biden towards? What actual policies and actions do you hope a Biden-X White House will enact? A lot of people just want to go back to sleep like they were during the Obama years, trusting the nice-looking man/woman to handle things. That's not how government is supposed to work, and it's a recipe to get another Trump in 4 years.
 

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If South Carolina was first, I still think she would have gotten washed. Biden was always going to win it. Bernie was the only other person with a pulse down there. Warren was polling in the teens there too. Kamala was in the mid to high single digits.
Kamala had a good ground game in South Carolina. Also, Jim Clyburn really likes Kamala. Either he would have stayed neutral or even endorsed her.


Apparently, Trump donated to Kamala in 2011 & 2013. Also, Ivanka donated to Kamala in 2014.
 
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