kingdizzy01
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Joe Biden says Latinos are the nations future
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preciate the response homie, open dialogue! much respect...
Have Mexico had an INDIGENOUS president since 1829?
That was 183 years ago. What other INDIGENOUS people have held high office in Mexico outside of that one guy?
USA have many blacks that have held high government position, compared to Mexico one that was 183 years ago.
...get in a time machine and go back 49 years.
aka a time in america where you had to drink water and eat at restaurants separate from whites, on the simple premise that whites are superior to blacks and thus shouldnt be exposed to them at restaurants or share drinking fountains. and dogs were being sicked on blacks and they were getting hosed down for protesting this
this is 49 years ago. and you're comparing the u.s to mexico in terms of racial inequality
nobody wouldve been killed in mexico for creating a half breed baby. that explains the majority mixed race "mestizo" populations. in the U.S that was enough to get you lynched.
but its the same. yea.
for fcks sake can you fukkin read?
YOU CLAIMED ERRONEOUSLY THAT RACISM IN THE UNITED STATES WAS IDENTICAL TO RACISM IN LATIN AMERICA
then in your own post you type there are no explicit laws which implement this racism, meaning there is no direct system in place now or before that has systematically disenfranchised a specific group to promote a majority based on the superiority of one's RACE
HOW THE FCK IS THAT THE SAME
the racist laws implemented in the U.S were created to continue to justify the institution of slavery, on the basis that WHITES WERE SUPERIOR to blacks, mentally/physically and that blacks werent even HUMAN. of course this basic premise escapes your grasp and clearly this notion of SUPERIORITY based on race, a superiority the WHITE MAJORITY believed in the U.S somehow directly translates to latin america, a region that is so ethnically diverse and different from the U.S, particularly in countries like Peru which have never had a white majority, or had an economy so dependent on slave labor that they needed to dehumanize blacks or natives and continue to subjugate them.
translation: this never existed in mexico. or peru. or chile. or el salvador. or honduras. or (insert every latin american country here), even brazil where it took forever to abolish slavery the systems were completely different.
and these unequal distributions of wealth are not based on RACE, it is based on classism. CLASSISM. CLASS+ISM. unless you somehow believe that mixed people believe they are "superior" as basically hybrids than pure indigenous or blacks and implement laws based on this superiority complex, the systems everywhere are entirely different.
further proof, the central and south american civil wars and coups in the 80s didnt take place as a result of racial oppression (though it exists but entirely differently than in the U.S)... it was a clash between classes, rich land owning elites vs the poorer majority. this unequal distribution of wealth has existed since gaining independence from spain and portugal.
and the U.S has continued to support this classism because it benefits them for a myriad of reasons, spheres of influence, trade, labor costs, banana republics and so on
the concept of "black man" and "im a white man" isnt a european construct, it was invented in the U.S. this system is unique to the U.S
TL;DR: racial discrimination exists everywhere, but the U.S system is unique and completely different from what exists anywhere in latin america. YOU SAID IT WAS THE SAME. you continue to say its the same, despite it being fukkin obvious that it isnt.
this is what i've learned from this thread tho
latinos = mexicans, mexicans hate blacks. conclusion, latinos hate blacks.
american racism isnt unique and exists in identical form everywhere south of mexico. an afro-mexican was the 2nd president in mexico, but the racism is exactly the same because we could've had a half black president in the 1800s.
latinos = mexicans, mexicans hate blacks. conclusion, latinos hate blacks.
american racism isnt unique and exists in identical form everywhere south of mexico. an afro-mexican was the 2nd president in mexico, but the racism is exactly the same because we could've had a half black president in the 1800s.
seriously tho theworldismine13, if you're going to continue claiming that racism in the U.S is the same as racism anywhere else in the world i'm done talking to you
interracial marriage landed u 7 years in prison in america, while 60% or higher of the population in mexico is mixed indigenous and white. meaning white spaniards were plowing the sht out of native women and weren't discriminating or worried about their "racial purity" or the "superiority" of their perfect white race being ruined by plowing natives.
its not the same. stop it. never was never will be.
interracial marriage landed u 7 years in prison in america, while 60% or higher of the population in mexico is mixed indigenous and white. meaning white spaniards were plowing the sht out of native women and weren't discriminating or worried about their "racial purity" or the "superiority" of their perfect white race being ruined by plowing natives.
its not the same. stop it. never was never will be.
i responded to that http://www.the-coli.com/2801767-post144.html
what i said is that latin america is just as racist as north america, not that its exactly the same, i have acknowledge several times that it plays out differently
if you're argument is that racism in latin america is different than i concur, i dont concur that its less racist than the US
and yeah in in south america mestizo occupy a higher social rank than blacks and indigenous, thats something you learn in latin american cultures 101
you can describe latin america racism or classism all day long but my point is latin america views about race or class do not represent anything better than north american views of race and class, so black people should not be celebrating a latino future as if it represents less racism or classism
even using your logic and nomenclature it would be appropriate to assume that an influx of latinos into the us would result in an increase in classism in the us, would it not?
yeah latin american racism and classism is different, but please refrain from going any further than that, different does not equate to better or morally superior
i dont know why you keep saying that im sayin its the same, i explicitly said its different, but the overall impact on indigenous and black populations has been the same and latin american culture does not have any moral superiority over north america in terms of race
and i dont know why you keep trying to use the very same arguments that i exposed here
http://www.utexas.edu/law/centers/humanrights/events/adjudicating/papers/Deniallastversion.pdf
are you not realizing that you have been exposed already?
if you continue denying your ethering and exposure im not gonna say anything else, ill just quote the pdf since it perfectly rebuts every single argument you have used in this thread
http://www.utexas.edu/law/centers/humanrights/events/adjudicating/papers/Deniallastversion.pdf
are you not realizing that you have been exposed already?
if you continue denying your ethering and exposure im not gonna say anything else, ill just quote the pdf since it perfectly rebuts every single argument you have used in this thread
Marvel
Psalm 149:5-9
Houston and Dallas will be alright. These cities are not like San Antonio, which is :huldup: There were more Mexicans in both cities far earlier than 2001 breh. Black people are still deep as fukk in both cities, including their suburbs.There are some parts in both cities where blacks don't even care to live anyways. A lot of black people are moving to Houston, especially from Louisiana, other parts of the Deep South and the Midwest. Mexican immigration is slowing down too.
Again, I don't hate Mexicans but they only start shyt when they outnumber you by about 3 to 1. Sadly enough I do agree that a black person is better off living in a majority white area than a overwhelmingly Mexican area.
Marvel
Psalm 149:5-9
...get in a time machine and go back 49 years.
aka a time in america where you had to drink water and eat at restaurants separate from whites, on the simple premise that whites are superior to blacks and thus shouldnt be exposed to them at restaurants or share drinking fountains. and dogs were being sicked on blacks and they were getting hosed down for protesting this
this is 49 years ago. and you're comparing the u.s to mexico in terms of racial inequality
nobody wouldve been killed in mexico for creating a half breed baby. that explains the majority mixed race "mestizo" populations. in the U.S that was enough to get you lynched.
but its the same. yea.
White people have never had a problem saying they are part Native American (technically making them mestizo). Why is that? Your assertion is seriously flawed.
No Sir.
Dallas Demographics Report
In a 10 years span
Blacks 1990-29% 2000-26%
Hispanics 1990-20% 2000-36%
That's a huge demographic change in 10 years.
Marvel
Psalm 149:5-9
It would look like the mid 90s is when they passed blacks which is still earlier than 2001
Again, Mexicans are not doing shyt with 26% vs 36%. I know a white dude that is cop and patrols the 5th ward area and Mexicans tried some racist shyt on their side of the hood on some we taking over for the varrio shyt, where they had numbers and got their wigs pushed back something serious by blacks over there. I also was told the same thing by homeboys GF who is from there and is El Salvadorian.
nikkas ain't having that and you know it. Imagine them trying that shyt in Oak Cliff, shyt would be pure comedy on another level.
It would look like the mid 90s is when they passed blacks which is still earlier than 2001
Again, Mexicans are not doing shyt with 26% vs 36%. I know a white dude that is cop and patrols the 5th ward area and Mexicans tried some racist shyt on their side of the hood on some we taking over for the varrio shyt, where they had numbers and got their wigs pushed back something serious by blacks over there. I also was told the same thing by homeboys GF who is from there and is El Salvadorian.
nikkas ain't having that and you know it. Imagine them trying that shyt in Oak Cliff, shyt would be pure comedy on another level.
It was 1998-99.
But now Hispanics are 43% in Dallas.
In 20 years, they went from the second minority to the majority in Dallas.
The Black population in Dallas have dropped 5,000 people.
Mexicans became more bold and racist when they passed Blacks and Whites in number in Dallas. Trust me, I grew up in Dallas. I wouldn't have my children live in that environment. I trying to move to a high populated black city like Philadelphia and Baltimore. I live in Memphis right now which is a majority black city. Where I don't have to deal with racist Mexicans. The white people are cooler here too.
The Memphis police force is majority black. There are less racial profiling here.
Marvel
Psalm 149:5-9
Did they take over because blacks were "forced out" or because blacks are moving on up a little? How many black people left Oak Cliff in the last 10-15 years to Cedar Hill, Duncanville, and DeSoto?