Jimmy Kimmel introduces DACA opponents to Dreamers

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it's always folks who squandered the opportunities given them by their luck to have born in America

who are most upset at the idea of other people risking their lives to get access to a fraction of that opportunity
I think reduced economic mobility plays a part as well.
The more people begin to see the economy as a fixed pie that needs to be divided up the more the idea of adding more mouths to feed becomes undesirable.
 

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A common misconception... libertarians are not for freedom of movement coupled with big govt, and an over regulated, heavily planned economy.

That doesn’t even mean anything. Negged and reported

You can’t have free movement of capital without the free movement of people.

There’s nothing libertarian about having Border Patrol and ICE roaming the country and them forcing people to identify themselves and forcefully detaining people.

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That doesn’t even mean anything. Negged and reported

You can’t have free movement of capital without the free movement of people.

There’s nothing libertarian about having Border Patrol and ICE roaming the country and them forcing people to identify themselves and forcefully detaining people.

shytty person/shytty troll
:stopitslime:... we don’t have free* movement of capital.
You are expecting libertarians to be libertarian in part.
 

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Had her parents immigrated legally she wouldn’t be in this position no?:ld:
Sounds like her parents rolled the dice decades ago and they just landed on Trump...

When you take big risk sometimes you lose big:yeshrug:

It's like imagine you ran a stop sign 10 years ago, the police found out about it, finally figured out where you were living and so adamant about giving you that ticket for running that red light cause you broke the law.

You would be thinking there's probably bigger criminals that require more pressing needs from our law enforcement right?
 

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She should be punished by the state for a crime committed by other individuals?:stopitslime:
So being brought here as a child, or bringing your child here... should in some way be a legitimate way to sidestep our immigration system?
:ld:
You would be thinking there's probably bigger criminals that require more pressing needs from our law enforcement right?
Absolutely, but you’re looking at the issue independent of politics.
Politically(for conservatives) it’s extremely undesirable to permit them to stay... and I’d go as far as to say detrimental to the nation.
 

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You can't give a straight answer to a simple question.:camby:
I completely agree, they are getting fukked and it isn’t “fair”.
:yeshrug:But it happens... life isn’t fair. People suffer windfall losses all the time.

Welcome to America.









Dems should have tucked their bleeding hearts away and deported them a long time ago instead of creating an ”only life they know”. Cause the other side isn’t moved by these emotional appeals.


 

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So being brought here as a child, or bringing your child here... should in some way be a legitimate way to sidestep our immigration system?
:ld:

Absolutely, but you’re looking at the issue independent of politics.
Politically(for conservatives) it’s extremely undesirable to permit them to stay... and I’d go as far as to say detrimental to the nation.

Undesirable to who specifically?

If they are willing to contribute to our society through taxes, military, free enterprise and other aspects because they literally only know this country as their home how is that detrimental?
 
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