Jimmy Henchman Confesses To Planning 1994 Tupac Shooting

[SunZoo]

the fact that they didnt even check henchmen after that shyt to me shows they were being extorted and controlled and any nikka with an ounce of wisdom would blame them.

Thats like inviting your cousin to your hood, he gets shot by your nikkas on the block and you sitting there letting the shyt slide hands off

I don't blame biggie for not getting in the mix, but if the shoe was on the other foot, pac more than likely would have...which is why I don't fault him for how he felt either. I can see that from both sides, but when you got this image in your head of Biggie being puff's right hand (which wasn't necessarily true) and you KNOW for a fact that he knew, if not had a hand in it it's hard to disassociate them from that whole shyt.

This is why the martyr symbolism on 7DT is so important IMO, because he was really being put on the cross because he wouldn't shut up when these behind the scenes nikkas tried to give him the behind the scenes treatment...he let the cat out the bag on the politics of the game and how it was all connected.

Remember this is panther lineage we talking about...feds been on Pac's ass since he was a kid, and low and behold he just happens to get into it with some government informants at the height of Hip Hop as a culture. It looks like street shyt to the average nikka but to him it looked like cointelpro, which doesn't sound that far fetched considering how it played out.

I Don't See How Their Problems With Jimmy Translate To Tupac, Unless Im Missing Something

I Highly Doubt Big Knew They Were On A Mission To Kill Pac

I believe puffy knew/had a hand in what was going down, Big even if he did couldn't do much without having to deal with these same nikkas in his own backyard.

 

[TELL ME YA CHEESIN FAM?]

Big warned him bout Haitian Jack and em..
Pac wanted to street rep ...so he didnt listen
Jack and his animals raped that ho and threw Pac in the bushes
Pac tried to call Jack a rat and got clapped

 

[Ego Noir]

I don't blame biggie for not getting in the mix, but if the shoe was on the other foot, pac more than likely would have...which is why I don't fault him for how he felt either. I can see that from both sides, but when you got this image in your head of Biggie being puff's right hand (which wasn't necessarily true) and you KNOW for a fact that he knew, if not had a hand in it it's hard to disassociate them from that whole shyt.

This is why the martyr symbolism on 7DT is so important IMO, because he was really being put on the cross because he wouldn't shut up when these behind the scenes nikkas tried to give him the behind the scenes treatment...he let the cat out the bag on the politics of the game and how it was all connected.

Remember this is panther lineage we talking about...feds been on Pac's ass since he was a kid, and low and behold he just happens to get into it with some government informants at the height of Hip Hop as a culture. It looks like street shyt to the average nikka but to him it looked like cointelpro, which doesn't sound that far fetched considering how it played out.



I believe puffy knew/had a hand in what was going down, Big even if he did couldn't do much without having to deal with these same nikkas in his own backyard.

I could never get enough reading about that period from '94-'96

Nothing short of legendary


Tupac Amaru Shakur

 

[Ego Noir]

yeah pac wasn't supposed to get shot(just pistol whipped and robbed I think). but when he tried to pull the gun and fight back.......that's what got him shot.

I think people thought pac was just gonna bow down and be easy to control cause he really aint have the govt pull like that you know. he really wasn't a tough street dude either, just had black panther ties to an extent. pac was on a black pride/positive vibe too. even though he was militant on some songs, but no outright street drug violence for no reason n shyt.

so you would think a guy that makes music like that really wouldn't want it with someone as big as jimmy(especially with him being backed by the govt).

The essence of a real nikka.

You dont need to be a street nikka to be real. Pac had the heart of a lion and spoke what was true

 

[Big Boss]

Fun fact the guy who plays Omar from the Wire is child hood friends with Jimmy Henchman. They're really close. They both from Vanderveer Projects

 

[Big Boss]

I don't blame biggie for not getting in the mix, but if the shoe was on the other foot, pac more than likely would have...which is why I don't fault him for how he felt either. I can see that from both sides, but when you got this image in your head of Biggie being puff's right hand (which wasn't necessarily true) and you KNOW for a fact that he knew, if not had a hand in it it's hard to disassociate them from that whole shyt.

This is why the martyr symbolism on 7DT is so important IMO, because he was really being put on the cross because he wouldn't shut up when these behind the scenes nikkas tried to give him the behind the scenes treatment...he let the cat out the bag on the politics of the game and how it was all connected.

Remember this is panther lineage we talking about...feds been on Pac's ass since he was a kid, and low and behold he just happens to get into it with some government informants at the height of Hip Hop as a culture. It looks like street shyt to the average nikka but to him it looked like cointelpro, which doesn't sound that far fetched considering how it played out.



I believe puffy knew/had a hand in what was going down, Big even if he did couldn't do much without having to deal with these same nikkas in his own backyard.

good point

 

[The War Report]

One of Pac's biggest mistakes was trying to get down with hardened gangsters in adulthood. That's the shyt you get into as a kid not when you're a big rap star. He should of stayed in his own lane. If dude was brought up in New York, he would of been on his Native Tongue steez like Brand Nubian, De La Soul, ATCQ, etc.

 

[loyola llothta]

This just prove biggie is a punk bytch and most of ny rappers at that time was jimmy' s hoes.

"Biggie warn pac" if you take shyt from that B.I.G movie and rap forums with no backing.....you cant be taking seriously

Zoe run yall nikkas ask Haitian Jack

RIP to one of the realist nikka from that bih 2pac but yall other nikkas in 90's in this rap shyt that still living yall sweet ass fukk str8 mango

When big died cali celebrity/happy/making jokes and shyt. Real cali nikkas from Street can confirm that

After that Diddy got the hell out dodge and rest of ny couldn't step foot without a pass. Soft ass nikkas

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

You can tell some dudes aint from that life while they acting like this was supposed to play out with biggie going to war with PAC. Lol

Industry dudes is just that, industry dudes. If henchman got muscle and influence like that and biggie would have tipped PAC on to the ambush and henchman finds out that biggie talking, guess what that means? Now biggie at war with henchman. Yall don't even get how risky it was for biggie to tell PAC to stay away from henchman. If he would have found out biggie said that again now biggie at war which puts junior mafia and them in war which messes up. Business totally cause there is nothing a street dude who aint bout nothing would like more to do then get famous for punking or hurting a famous dude.

Pac clearly was attacking biggie and puff as a marketing strategy which is why they were both shocked when he attacked them cause they figured he would understand why they couldn't say much about it and risk a street war fukking up they industry business.

Some of that was mixed in, but I think Pac saw it as attacking Henchman's bytches(Puffy & BIG).

"I'll destroy everything you touch"

Since Henchman was eating off of BadBoy, it was in Pac's best interest to bring the whole label down.

Pac was a crafty muthafukka(might not have been the wisest dude, tho).He studied books on tactical warfare/strategy.He was sharp enough to know that he couldn't touch Henchman, but he could "destroy everything he touched" by using his music as a weapon.The Machiavellian principle says if you're dealing with a corrupt network, any mean you use to gain power in that network are just.Corruption doesn't respect morality.That's where The Art Of War comes in.Trickery & Misdirection---I think that's where Puff & Big got sacrificed.Not saying it was all trickery, just strategy.

At that point, Pac was struggling financially.He couldn't call for a dialogue with a nikka like Jimmy Henchman.Jimmy had nukes, but Pac didn't have any.The nikka with the nukes can afford to be arrogant.He doesn't have to negotiate with you, he can just bully your few tanks,machine guns, and totally blow you off the map.nikkaz with nukes only sit down and dialogue/negotiate with other nikkaz who have nukes.They know they can end each others reign, so it's best to sit down at the table and form some kind of peace treaty.

Napoleon form the Outlawz said he was sitting in the room when somebody delivered a message to Pac from Jimmy Henchman...something about "You can't go to war with me, you don't have the money" or some shyt like that.

Do I believe Pac could've became a major player in the game like that? I do...I believe, eventually, he would have.

 

[loyola llothta]

Im not even west coast nikka and I can see most of y'all ny poster are pathetic making lies on pac but wont say shyt about big


nikka talking about they from the street and how it goes. nikka!!! You aint in the street like that you a house nikka still on your porch. You know of them because they in your neighborhood. You dont get down stop fronting

If you let ur partna get wasted you been a bytch especially if you in the same room with the killers seconds b4 and afterwards

That's a snake. A Backstapper. A flaw ass nikka. A Creep

Make a diss song after he die too? If somebody cosign that you tell the type of fukboy you moving with

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

That's from Henchman's mouth. So I gotta take it with a grain of salt.

Real talk.Man might be the biggest rat of the century so far, but they spreading that shyt around like it's the gospel.I wouldn't trust anything that came out of that dudes mouth

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

Mau Mau

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

I don't blame biggie for not getting in the mix, but if the shoe was on the other foot, pac more than likely would have...which is why I don't fault him for how he felt either. I can see that from both sides, but when you got this image in your head of Biggie being puff's right hand (which wasn't necessarily true) and you KNOW for a fact that he knew, if not had a hand in it it's hard to disassociate them from that whole shyt.

This is why the martyr symbolism on 7DT is so important IMO, because he was really being put on the cross because he wouldn't shut up when these behind the scenes nikkas tried to give him the behind the scenes treatment...he let the cat out the bag on the politics of the game and how it was all connected.

Remember this is panther lineage we talking about...feds been on Pac's ass since he was a kid, and low and behold he just happens to get into it with some government informants at the height of Hip Hop as a culture. It looks like street shyt to the average nikka but to him it looked like cointelpro, which doesn't sound that far fetched considering how it played out.



I believe puffy knew/had a hand in what was going down, Big even if he did couldn't do much without having to deal with these same nikkas in his own backyard.

I'm convinced that the rape case was born out of that element.End of the day, dudes like Jimmy Henchman & Haitian Jack are still the "white man's" bytch.They probably did a few small favors for massa

 

[intilectual recipricol]

Amir Muhammad wasnt scared

 

[Cladyclad]

I Don't See How Their Problems With Jimmy Translate To Tupac, Unless Im Missing Something

I Highly Doubt Big Knew They Were On A Mission To Kill Pac

dont kno how true it was. but remember this interview


the guys Pac was suppose to be talking about were Jack & Jimmy. i forgot where i read they were there when that chick tried to get Pac jammed up