Jim Jackson picks Kobe over Lebron

[Controversy]

Im not even trying to diss Kobe dude but I dont see how you can say Kobe is better than bron in the finals,

They both have one embarrassing series each (04,11) while LeBron has more dominant performances (even in some losses) and he won more as the best player than Kobe anyway

Kobe was the best player on the Lakers in 01 & 02...Shaq was clearly the best player in the 00 finals

LBJ gets his stats but he’s 17-23 in finals games...and should be 15-25 (Miracle Ray Allen shot, GS injuries suspension & Kyrie shot)

 

[chowism]

What was Shaq before Kobe? Wasn’t a champion. Didnt even have a single finals win. So what exactly was so great about Shaq that elevates him to this mythical status?

Shaq was considered the most dominant big man in the league easily before he went to LA. You just said some stupid shyt bruh.

 

[Young Fab]

Kobe stans are pitiful. Deez nikkas is really tryna discredit Shaq

Unbelievable

 

[Sccit]

This is your argument?

Now tell me how a .250 hitter is better than a .300 hitter because his swing is prettier



So why don't teams defend him if that's the case?

It's definitely not that he routinely destroys double teams by passing to an open shooter?

Kobe stan logic

EASY....IF THE .250 HITTER SAW MUCH TOUGHER PITCHES THAN THE .300 HITTER EVER DID.


THE ONLY WAY TO EVALUATE BOTH PLAYERS SHOOTING MINUS HOW THEY WERE DEFENDED IS BY COMPARING THEIR FREE THROW PERCENTAGE.....AND WE ALL KNOW HOW THAT DOESNT FAVOR LEBRON.

TEAMS DONT NEED TO DEFEND LEBRON LIKE THEY DO KOBE...BECAUSE THEY FOUND SUCCESS IN GUARDING HIM 1-ON-1, WHILE THE REST STICK CLOSE TO PLAYERS LIKE KYRIE, WADE, BOSH, LOVE ETC./NEVER DOUBLING OFF THEM.....IN TURN, LEBRON IS 3/8 IN THE FINALS. THEY PRETTY MUCH PLAN TO GIVE HIM HIS STATS, BUT THATS ALL.

TRY TO MAKE SENSE WHEN U POST HOMIE.

 

[FlyRy]

Why didn’t Shaq dominate in the WCF playoffs the way he did in the Finals?

Bc the comp was better, that’s why

Kobe was literally playoff mvp in 01, 02, 08, 09 & 10

But I guess finals mvp holds more weight...not the total picture

Why you bringing up 08-10
2000 Playoffs - First 3 Rounds
Kobe - 22.8 PPG, 4.4 RPG, 4.4 APG, .464 FG%
Shaq - 28.2 PPG, 15.0 RPG, 3.4 APG, .546 FG%

2001 Playoffs - First 3 Rounds
Kobe - 31.6 PPG, 7.0 RPG, 6.3 APG, .492 FG%
Shaq - 29.3 PPG, 15.3 RPG, 2.5 APG, .547 FG%

2002 Playoffs - First 3 Rounds
Kobe - 26.6 PPG, 5.8 RPG, 4.4 APG, .418 FG%
Shaq - 26.4 PPG, 12.7 RPG, 2.6 APG, .510 FG%



Looks pretty dominant to me

 

[Sccit]

Why you bringing up 08-10
2000 Playoffs - First 3 Rounds
Kobe - 22.8 PPG, 4.4 RPG, 4.4 APG, .464 FG%
Shaq - 28.2 PPG, 15.0 RPG, 3.4 APG, .546 FG%

2001 Playoffs - First 3 Rounds
Kobe - 31.6 PPG, 7.0 RPG, 6.3 APG, .492 FG%
Shaq - 29.3 PPG, 15.3 RPG, 2.5 APG, .547 FG%

2002 Playoffs - First 3 Rounds
Kobe - 26.6 PPG, 5.8 RPG, 4.4 APG, .418 FG%
Shaq - 26.4 PPG, 12.7 RPG, 2.6 APG, .510 FG%



Looks pretty dominant to me

AND THERE U HAVE IT...KOBE WAS ALREADY BETTER THAN SHAQ BY 2001....U JUST PROVED IT THERE LOL.

 

[chowism]

KOBES FORMULA WAS A WINNIG ONE - LEBRON, NOT SO MUCH


WHEN HIS BACKS AGAINST THE WALL, LEBRON IS KNOWN FOR HIS PASSING (TO ALPHA SCORERS LIKE KYRIE) .. THATS WHY HES SO EASY TO STOP WHEN THE GAME SLOWS DOWN IN THE POSTSEASON

Easy to stop in the postseason yet he's one of the best postseason scorer's of all time?

 

[Sunalmighty]

I respect the greatness of both players but I've seen MORE players and ex players take Kobe over LeBron. Like Bird said, "I'll play with LeBron to have fun. I'll play with Kobe to win". I think they both bring different facets to the game but I do think Kobe is a better player and he is winner as well. LeBron ALWAYS on teams where the deck is STACKED and has managed to get to 8 nba finals which is impressive. But if he gets to the finals this year he gonna be 3-6. Quite frankly I'm tired of seeing this nicca LOSE man. His ass would literally be 1-7 if it weren't for Ray Allen, draymond suspension and kyrie from the corner. Folks don't like to talk titles but why not when LeBron obviously plays on the team's he has in order to win titles? My opinion though

 

[Sccit]

Easy to stop in the postseason yet he's one of the best postseason scorer's of all time?

THE GAMEPLAN IS TO GIVE LEBRON HIS AND HOLD DOWN PLAYERS LIKE KYRIE, WADE, BOSH, LOVE ETC.........

THEY KNOW LEBRON IS SATISFIED WIT STATS, WIN OR LOSE.

PRETTY MUCH THE OPPOSITE OF KOBE, WHERE THE GAMEPLAN FOCUSED 100% ON STOPPING HIM.

 

[Controversy]

Why you bringing up 08-10
2000 Playoffs - First 3 Rounds
Kobe - 22.8 PPG, 4.4 RPG, 4.4 APG, .464 FG%
Shaq - 28.2 PPG, 15.0 RPG, 3.4 APG, .546 FG%

2001 Playoffs - First 3 Rounds
Kobe - 31.6 PPG, 7.0 RPG, 6.3 APG, .492 FG%
Shaq - 29.3 PPG, 15.3 RPG, 2.5 APG, .547 FG%

2002 Playoffs - First 3 Rounds
Kobe - 26.6 PPG, 5.8 RPG, 4.4 APG, .418 FG%
Shaq - 26.4 PPG, 12.7 RPG, 2.6 APG, .510 FG%



Looks pretty dominant to me

So Kob was leading scorer in 01 & 02...clearly better defender...and orchestrator of the offense

Compare Shaq’s finals #s to WCF...the comp is clearly the diff

Oh and Kobe had to score against Doug Christie, Ruben Patterson & Bruce Bowen

 

[Shadow King]

Why do nikkas make negative threads about LeBron and think LeBron fans are supposed to stay in MLB spring training threads?

 

[chowism]

THE GAMEPLAN IS TO GIVE LEBRON HIS AND HOLD DOWN PLAYERS LIKE KYRIE, WADE, BOSH, LOVE ETC.........

THEY KNOW LEBRON IS SATISFIED WIT STATS, WIN OR LOSE.

PRETTY MUCH THE OPPOSITE OF KOBE, WHERE THE GAMEPLAN FOCUSED 100% ON STOPPING HIM.

You just said LeBron is real easy to stop in the postseason when the game slows down but LeBron is one of the best postseason scorer's of all time already so is the game never slowing down because he hasn't been easy to stop?

 

[Wiirdo]

LOL ACT LIKE U KNOW SON

What do these pictures of Kobe taking awful shots prove? All you're showing is that teams will happily load up on him because they know he'll force a brick up instead of hitting the open man.

EASY....IF THE .250 HITTER SAW MUCH TOUGHER PITCHES THAN THE .300 HITTER EVER DID.


THE ONLY WAY TO EVALUATE BOTH PLAYERS SHOOTING MINUS HOW THEY WERE DEFENDED IS BY COMPARING THEIR FREE THROW PERCENTAGE.....AND WE ALL KNOW HOW THAT DOESNT FAVOR LEBRON.

TEAMS DONT NEED TO DEFEND HIM LIKE THEY DO KOBE LOLSMH...BECAUSE THEY FOUND SUCCESS IN GUARDING HIM 1-ON-1, WHILE STICKING CLOSE TO PLAYERS LIKE KYRIE, WADE, BOSH, LOVE ETC. AND NOT DOUBLING OFF THEM.....WHICH IS WHY HE IS 3/8 IN THE FINALS.

TRY TO MAKE SENSE WHEN U POST HOMIE.

Except they've both played during the same era so they've seen the same pitches, except LeBron has played far superior peers at SF than Kobe has at SG. Also your retarded analogy doesn't make sense because nobody would ever say a .250 hitter is better than a .300 hitter.

Steph is defending far more aggressively than Kobe has ever been, and somehow manages to be miles better at scoring than Kobe, and is a better shooter from everywhere on the floor. So you'd agree that Curry is a better scorer?

 

[BigTyme Records]

Kobe averaged 25-7-6 in 01
27-6-5 in 02
26-5-5 in 08
32-7-6 in 09
29-8-4 in 10

And he played like hot ass? You’re kidding right???

In the finals, he was pitted against all these HOFers:
-Reggie
-AI
-Kidd
-Ray

And he was still asked to defend Chauncey & Pierce

You gotta be kidding bruh

On 40%.....Kobe on shoots 40% in the finals for his career, thats not good at all, that's actually really bad for a player of his caliber

And Iverson outplayed Kobe in the 01 finals and billiups outplayed Kobe in the 04 finals so if you wanna brag about how they did in losing efforts, LeBron in the 2017 finals is better than any Kobe finals

Edit- im out this thread, tired of talking about Kobe/Bron lol

 

[FlyRy]

AND THERE U HAVE IT...KOBE WAS ALREADY BETTER THAN SHAQ BY 2001....U JUST PROVED IT THERE LOL.

Not really it was a nominal scoring difference. Great players step it up in the finals and don't go 6 of 24 in game 7