Jeannie Buss talks botched CP3 trade to Lakers after 2011 NBA Lockout (All The Smoke)
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Kobe only spent three years without an elite big, was under contract that entire time, and still demanded a trade.
What do you consider elite, 20 & 10
do you think Gasol was elite 2011-14?
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I have no idea what that means.
A skilled all star reserve that can't carry a team and is best served in a supporting role
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i remember, I think the circumstances would've been diff if we got CP0
I'd say that outplaying the other team's best player in the Finals man-to-man makes you elite. Especially if you do it in back-to-back years.
Gasol straight up beat Dwight Howard and Kevin Garnett in back-to-back Finals. He wasn't just on the winning side, he was matched up against the other team's best player and outplayed them straight-up both times. THAT is elite.
Gasol was easily a top-3 two-way big during those runs. Only big who was clearly above him 2008-2010 was Duncan. KG was on the same level as Pau, Dwight showed that offensively he couldn't match him when it mattered.
Pau carried a sorry-ass Grizzlies team to the playoffs 3 straight years when he was in just his 2nd/3rd/4th seasons in the league and his #2 option was James Posey, then Mike Miller.
And he wasn't just an "all-star reserve", he was All-NBA four times. Made 2nd-team All-NBA in 2011 (more votes than Amare, LMA, Blake, Love, Duncan, Bosh, and Carmelo) and then made another All-NBA team in 2015 and All-Star teams in '15/'16.
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And what did i say that was wrong Lefakkit?Kobe only spent three years without an elite big, was under contract that entire time, and still demanded a trade.
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What you mean... the one time he tested free agency because his team was trash?Not through lack of effort
Which ultimately got him Pau?
Still didn’t hop from team to team, to team... to another team to chase rings
Stern was a straight cock blocker
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Kobe didn’t get drafted with Shaq on the team. Shaq got signed with Kobe on the team already.
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Yeah, any documentary where there's billionaires heavily involved in the subject matter, they're not even participating in the doc unless they have some say in the narrative.
Even something like the Biggie movie Notorious, shyt was a fluff piece.
FunkDoc1112
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And even if they participate without having any creative control, they're not adding anything of value outside of whatever puts them in a positive light...and even that comes with a spin that'll require the crew talking to others, too. Whatever negative shyt they get asked about, they just gonna juelz or give a rehearsed answer. Like in that one Amazon doc, the current corporate employees were all too happy to talk about the humble beginnings and the rise to power but when they started bringing up the warehouse conditions suddenly it's stock answers and denials.
That being said, this can work when set up properly...like you use their silence or lack of straight answers to tell the story in itself. Like have x amount of people saying "This went down and they didn't even care, just kept counting their money and act like nothing happened" then cut to billionaire a$$hole giving talking out the side of his mouth and let the camera linger on his facial expressions
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Los Angeles Lakers Docuseries From Jeanie Buss & Antoine Fuqua Ordered By Hulu – Deadline
Hulu has ordered a nine-part docuseries chronicling the history of the storied Los Angeles Lakers franchise. The project, which joins the Hulu Originals lineup, comes from Lakers’ CEO and controlling owner Jeanie Buss; Emmy-winning director Antoine Fuqua, in association with Fuqua Films; Haven Entertainment; and Los Angeles Media Fund.
The series details the past four decades of the Lakers and featured interviews from more than 35 people within the organization, including the Buss family; legendary coaches Pat Riley and Phil Jackson; and NBA Hall of Famers Magic Johnson, Shaquille O’Neal and team captain Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, among numerous other current and former players. Also featured are interviews with a range of high-profile fans and a trove of archival footage featuring never-before-seen interviews with the Lakers’ late owner, Jerry Buss.
Buss and Fuqua will executive produce the series alongside Haven Entertainment’s Kevin Mann, Michael Mann and Brendan Bragg; Los Angeles Media Fund’s (LAMF) Jeffrey Soros and Simon Horsman; and longtime Lakers senior executive Linda Rambis. Rounding out the team will be Emmy-winning editor Jake Pushinsky and executive producer/writer Steven Leckart. The untitled project is slated to debut on Hulu in 2022.
Starting from his acquisition of the team in 1979, the docuseries captures Jerry Buss’ remarkable journey to build, sustain and pass on a family-run sports empire. The project will offer a fresh and revealing look inside the legendary “Showtime” era that saw the team win five NBA titles and turned the Forum into Hollywood’s hottest ticket throughout the 1980s. The series also details the high-stakes drama off the court and incredible successes of the championship teams led by Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O’Neal, as well as the cultural impact of the Lakers franchise and rebirth of the team, culminating with the 2020 NBA championship led by LeBron James and Anthony Davis. At the heart is a story about sports, business and, most of all, family – and how those competing forces must be harnessed to achieve greatness.
“When Dr. Buss bought the Lakers in 1979, he sat alone at center court of the Forum and thought of all the possibilities,” Jeanie Buss said. “But even in his wildest dreams, my father could not have imagined what the next decades would bring for our organization, our league and our city of Los Angeles. I am thrilled that the true story of the Lakers will finally be shared with the world — and that we are in such capable hands with Hulu and Antoine, a director whose storytelling I’ve admired for years.”
Added Fuqua: “We are proud to bring this docuseries to the world and shed light on the legendary history of the Lakers. This expansive look into one of the greatest sports franchises of all time is a project we all feel deeply passionate about.”
Said said Belisa Balaban, Hulu’s VP Original Documentaries: “The Los Angeles Lakers are one of sports’ most illustrious franchises. Theirs is a history of epic highs and tragic lows, and generations of legendary players and teams who have made a profound impact, not just on the sports world, but on the culture. We are honored to join Jeanie, Antoine and the whole creative team to bring Hulu viewers the very real inside look at the remarkable story of the rise and fall, and rise again of the Lakers,”
This is the second Los Angeles Laker-focused project that is in the works. HBO has ordered the Untitled Los Angeles Project from Adam McKay, a scripted drama series about the storied franchise based on Jeff Pearlman’s book Showtime: Magic, Kareem, Riley, and the Los Angeles Lakers Dynasty of the 1980s.
Hulu has ordered a nine-part docuseries chronicling the history of the storied Los Angeles Lakers franchise. The project, which joins the Hulu Originals lineup, comes from Lakers’ CEO and controlling owner Jeanie Buss; Emmy-winning director Antoine Fuqua, in association with Fuqua Films; Haven Entertainment; and Los Angeles Media Fund.
The series details the past four decades of the Lakers and featured interviews from more than 35 people within the organization, including the Buss family; legendary coaches Pat Riley and Phil Jackson; and NBA Hall of Famers Magic Johnson, Shaquille O’Neal and team captain Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, among numerous other current and former players. Also featured are interviews with a range of high-profile fans and a trove of archival footage featuring never-before-seen interviews with the Lakers’ late owner, Jerry Buss.
Buss and Fuqua will executive produce the series alongside Haven Entertainment’s Kevin Mann, Michael Mann and Brendan Bragg; Los Angeles Media Fund’s (LAMF) Jeffrey Soros and Simon Horsman; and longtime Lakers senior executive Linda Rambis. Rounding out the team will be Emmy-winning editor Jake Pushinsky and executive producer/writer Steven Leckart. The untitled project is slated to debut on Hulu in 2022.
Starting from his acquisition of the team in 1979, the docuseries captures Jerry Buss’ remarkable journey to build, sustain and pass on a family-run sports empire. The project will offer a fresh and revealing look inside the legendary “Showtime” era that saw the team win five NBA titles and turned the Forum into Hollywood’s hottest ticket throughout the 1980s. The series also details the high-stakes drama off the court and incredible successes of the championship teams led by Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O’Neal, as well as the cultural impact of the Lakers franchise and rebirth of the team, culminating with the 2020 NBA championship led by LeBron James and Anthony Davis. At the heart is a story about sports, business and, most of all, family – and how those competing forces must be harnessed to achieve greatness.
“When Dr. Buss bought the Lakers in 1979, he sat alone at center court of the Forum and thought of all the possibilities,” Jeanie Buss said. “But even in his wildest dreams, my father could not have imagined what the next decades would bring for our organization, our league and our city of Los Angeles. I am thrilled that the true story of the Lakers will finally be shared with the world — and that we are in such capable hands with Hulu and Antoine, a director whose storytelling I’ve admired for years.”
Added Fuqua: “We are proud to bring this docuseries to the world and shed light on the legendary history of the Lakers. This expansive look into one of the greatest sports franchises of all time is a project we all feel deeply passionate about.”
Said said Belisa Balaban, Hulu’s VP Original Documentaries: “The Los Angeles Lakers are one of sports’ most illustrious franchises. Theirs is a history of epic highs and tragic lows, and generations of legendary players and teams who have made a profound impact, not just on the sports world, but on the culture. We are honored to join Jeanie, Antoine and the whole creative team to bring Hulu viewers the very real inside look at the remarkable story of the rise and fall, and rise again of the Lakers,”
This is the second Los Angeles Laker-focused project that is in the works. HBO has ordered the Untitled Los Angeles Project from Adam McKay, a scripted drama series about the storied franchise based on Jeff Pearlman’s book Showtime: Magic, Kareem, Riley, and the Los Angeles Lakers Dynasty of the 1980s.