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I think it says more about yall if you have access to IP's and whatnot and were seriously discussing that

It says more about you if you think that the owners of this site give the moderators access to IPs. :obamaword:
 

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i beg to differ, man. the simple fact that you have to pay for health insurance in this country or the hospital will leave you on a bed to die because the moment they hear they can't make money off of you is pure capitalism at work. there's babies that actually die because their parents have NO insurance. :wtf: you basically have to pay to live. your life is basically at the mercy of a dollar bill and how much you can produce it. if you can't produce any cash, you might as well kill yourself.

maybe you haven't heard that 47% of the country are freeloaders and our president is a marxist

all jokes aside, all I have to do is point to one regulation and that would prove this country is not "pure capitalism"
 

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damn they keep you guys on a short leash :russ:

Nah, I think it makes sense. :yeshrug: It's a good look for people's safety too. :mitt: (I won't even front I just wanted a reason to use that)
 

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I wouldn't say it's a "myth". but yeah, they never talk about the actual poor/lower class

it's like repubs thing everyone can be rich, the dems think everyone can be middle class, meanwhile the majority of people are just poor

I know being middle class is subjective to where you live. I used to believe federal, state, and city workers were middle class bringing in 30-60k a year but now... I'm pretty sure they are the working poor breh breh.

They don't talk about the lowest class at all you're right. It's like they don't even exist although they are bigest segment of our society.
Well that 47% comment actually...


Where the hell is the middle class? I know they are only subjective socio economic classes but where are these people?
I was always told the middle class were bourgeoisie. I don't see it.



That's why I'm not with it man. I feel like Lenin and Stalin came through.


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I know being middle class is subjective to where you live. I used to believe federal, state, and city workers were middle class bringing in 30-60k a year but now... pretty sure they are working poor breh breh.

that's the thing. they sell you this like if you get a steady job, you're "middle class". but then the numbers don't jive

if I had my way comrade, everyone would be "middle class". and i think that's what they're appealing to. this idea that the majority are in this Goldilocks zone. but they're not...
 

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that's the thing. they sell you this like if you get a steady job, you're "middle class". but then the numbers don't jive

if I had my way comrade, everyone would be "middle class". and i think that's what they're appealing to. this idea that the majority are in this Goldilocks zone. but they're not...

Calling people low-income doesn't work though. 91% of American think that they are in the middle class. Saying you're catering to the middle class is just as good as saying you're catering to the working poor. People will still it as directed towards them.
 

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Calling people low-income doesn't work though. 91% of American think that they are in the middle class. Saying you're catering to the middle class is just as good as saying you're catering to the working poor. People will still it as directed towards them.

Maybe you missed the last few years in your Ivory Tower. People can't pay their rent or mortgage let alone much else. Everyone is in debt. I don't think that plays well anymore.
 

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Maybe you missed the last few years in your Ivory Tower. People can't pay their rent or mortgage anymore. I don't think that plays well anymore.

Look bro, you've been trying to sideways come at me since the inception of this board. No idea why :mitt: Studies show that 91% of American consider themselves either lower, middle or upper middle class. Americans do not like to be classified as "poor." Even those who are the working poor just consider themselves "lower middle class." So when you're making a plea for the betterment of the middle class, you're directly speaking to them.

Have you ever studied any focus group polling? Goodness. Thus, why I posted up the article the other day saying Americans have a "class consciousness" issue.
 

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Have you ever studied any focus group polling? Goodness. Thus, why I posted up the article the other day saying Americans have a "class consciousness" issue.

I live in the real world, unlike you. I don't need to see polling to know what's going on in the world around me.
 

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Calling people low-income doesn't work though. 91% of American think that they are in the middle class. Saying you're catering to the middle class is just as good as saying you're catering to the working poor. People will still it as directed towards them.

but do those ends justify those deceptive means?

it seems it's hard to 'fix' a problem think when you're (rhetorical, not you) in denial of the problem existing. this seems to be the cause of a lot of problems. many people saw the 'housing crisis' coming, but no one wanted to listen to them because they were making money and thought it was 'all good'. then the shyt hits the fan, and everyone's like "omg, how did this happen?!?!?"

I'm not claiming to have the answers or that any of this is some kind of simple fix
 
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