Jay Z had State Property rap every time they seen him and took their rhymes

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This here.

Jay was calling in a lot of favors for Beans, while Beans was going through his little struggles. Mack had it. Super talented and had the kind of situation where the only way he'd lose, would be if he dropped the ball himself. Thing is, he couldn't leave the drugs and streets alone. They all had their legal issues at one time or another, but Beans overdid it to the point where he started becoming bad for business. They tried to help him through all of this legal trouble, both financially and otherwise, and he would go right back to putting himself in those same situations. Dude single-handedly killed his own career. Mad self-destructive.

And he says it all the time. He never got shorted or snaked by anyone. Everything he had, he threw away himself. It's sad because dude was supposed to be up there with the greats.

That was moreso Dame, which is the only real reason he went with Dame after he got out. And he talked about how they didn't get anything from State Property merch, and Dame was getting all of that money. Jay also blocked his (and Free's G-Unit deal).

As for it being bad for business, I don't know. He wasn't a marketable guy outside of the streets, for true commercial appeal. As we've seen time and time again, street fanfare enhances your marketability for rap....back then, especially. But he was never going to be a household name, like 50 or X. The problem I see is that no matter what, he was always going to be under Jay, so his light would diminish unless he got from under there. However, once that happens, he would have to put the work in himself, which I don't think he would've ever been good at. He would need a strong team behind him. His ceiling would still be Styles P, which is pretty much where he is now.
 

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This here.

Jay was calling in a lot of favors for Beans, while Beans was going through his little struggles. Mack had it. Super talented and had the kind of situation where the only way he'd lose, would be if he dropped the ball himself. Thing is, he couldn't leave the drugs and streets alone. They all had their legal issues at one time or another, but Beans overdid it to the point where he started becoming bad for business. They tried to help him through all of this legal trouble, both financially and otherwise, and he would go right back to putting himself in those same situations. Dude single-handedly killed his own career. Mad self-destructive.

And he says it all the time. He never got shorted or snaked by anyone. Everything he had, he threw away himself. It's sad because dude was supposed to be up there with the greats.


Nah Jay is 100 percent wrong he did everyone wrong


No one else did anything wrong


Jay is the snake


Everyone was angels


Thats the narrative and we gonna keep it that way


:russ:


On choke page he saying all he wants is a convo


Yeah they way dehaven choke been going is gonna get you the convo you need


:mjlol:
 

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That was moreso Dame, which is the only real reason he went with Dame after he got out. And he talked about how they didn't get anything from State Property merch, and Dame was getting all of that money. Jay also blocked his (and Free's G-Unit deal).

As for it being bad for business, I don't know. He wasn't a marketable guy outside of the streets, for true commercial appeal. As we've seen time and time again, street fanfare enhances your marketability for rap....back then, especially. But he was never going to be a household name, like 50 or X. The problem I see is that no matter what, he was always going to be under Jay, so his light would diminish unless he got from under there. However, once that happens, he would have to put the work in himself, which I don't think he would've ever been good at. He would need a strong team behind him. His ceiling would still be Styles P, which is pretty much where he is now.

50 co produce Freeway album Free at Last... shyt was legit fire. Hov didn't even want to do a video with Free for Big Spender. Hov did look out by paying for all his medical expenses and surgeries for his kidneys though. You gotta respect that
 

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50 co produce Freeway album Free at Last... shyt was legit fire. Hov didn't even want to do a video with Free for Big Spender. Hov did look out by paying for all his medical expenses and surgeries for his kidneys though. You gotta respect that


Nah Jay don't do nothing good for anyone


Yeah that thing he did for Freeway and foxy for their medical problems dont mean nothing

That dont matter we need to keep the narrative
that jay a snake going
 

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Jay-Z jacked Jaz-O sttyle in the 80s
Hov then stole Fu Schnickens flow in the early 90s
Mid to late 90s Nas gave him a style to run with
After Biggie died, Jay tried to become Big
Young Chris comes along n is totally shang tsung'd by Jigga (early 00s)

2003 - Jigga retires

Late 00s comes back, flops, jumps on Kanyes dikk

:scusthov:'s story mane


Unfortunately this is literally the case.

especially with Kanye. Jay didn’t even want to sign him as a rapper but when his shyt started to take off he literally started to take his ideas and do what he was doing. Beach chair is my shyt and so is watch the throne though But that’s one reason why BP3 sucked also
 
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That was moreso Dame, which is the only real reason he went with Dame after he got out. And he talked about how they didn't get anything from State Property merch, and Dame was getting all of that money. Jay also blocked his (and Free's G-Unit deal).

As for it being bad for business, I don't know. He wasn't a marketable guy outside of the streets, for true commercial appeal. As we've seen time and time again, street fanfare enhances your marketability for rap....back then, especially. But he was never going to be a household name, like 50 or X. The problem I see is that no matter what, he was always going to be under Jay, so his light would diminish unless he got from under there. However, once that happens, he would have to put the work in himself, which I don't think he would've ever been good at. He would need a strong team behind him. His ceiling would still be Styles P, which is pretty much where he is now.

Jay was paying Beans' mortgage and bills while he was going through his legal issues. He was also working with the DA to lessen the charges during the trial and writing in as a "character witness" for Beans. That's what helped him get a shorter sentence. Both Dame and Jay helped with his legal fees because Beans had burned through all of his money by the time trial came around. They were all showing up for him at court during that time. And them having to go through all of that for him, was hurting them on the backend for business.

SP's clothing line was something that Dame brokered for Beans. Dame sent him over to the same people that were doing Rocawear. Dame speaks about that all the time. Jay didn't have anything to do with that deal. Those were Dame's people. But Beans will tell you, he's the one that fukked up his own deals and money. Dame and Jay never took anything from him. If anything, he owes them bread because they took care of a lot of his bills when he couldn't do it for himself.

I don’t know about whether or not he was marketable. That's kinda subjective. Just music and talent-wise, he had it. He was making millions of dollars as an artist. Even if the label was going under, he had enough talent and pull to at least head to another label and keep building on his legacy. Scarface always said Beans was one of the beat in the game. Everyone loved dude. So he definitely could've gone on to keep making classics. He always says that he just didn't know how to do it back then. And that's the sad part. He lost out on a lot of blessings.
 

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Jay was paying Beans' mortgage and bills while he was going through his legal issues. He was also working with the DA to lessen the charges during the trial and writing in as a "character witness" for Beans. That's what helped him get a shorter sentence. Both Dame and Jay helped with his legal fees because Beans had burned through all of his money by the time trial came around. They were all showing up for him at court during that time. And them having to go through all of that for him, was hurting them on the backend for business.

SP's clothing line was something that Dame brokered for Beans. Dame sent him over to the same people that were doing Rocawear. Dame speaks about that all the time. Jay didn't have anything to do with that deal. Those were Dame's people. But Beans will tell you, he's the one that fukked up his own deals and money. Dame and Jay never took anything from him. If anything, he owes them bread because they took care of a lot of his bills when he couldn't do it for himself.

I don’t know about whether or not he was marketable. That's kinda subjective. Just music and talent-wise, he had it. He was making millions of dollars as an artist. Even if the label was going under, he had enough talent and pull to at least head to another label and keep building on his legacy. Scarface always said Beans was one of the beat in the game. Everyone loved dude. So he definitely could've gone on to keep making classics. He always says that he just didn't know how to do it back then. And that's the sad part. He lost out on a lot of blessings.


Nope beans did everything right

He is not to blame at all



it was all Dame and Jay

But since Jay got the most now


It was all Jay that did him wrong


Remember the narrative :francis:
 

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I wish Young Chris was popping on the indie scene like how Willie the Kid is right now.

State Prop was nice and dudes had original styles.
Facts. I wasn’t the biggest fan of Neef, but everyone sounded unique and was dope.

Sparks especially had an off kilter flow that was dope. This is still one of my favorite verses ever.

 

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Facts. I wasn’t the biggest fan of Neef, but everyone sounded unique and was dope.

Sparks especially had an off kilter flow that was dope. This is still one of my favorite verses ever.



“ I find it difficult to talk to his mother, I mean what do you say to women that lost her only son to the game and a gun”

Sparks was dumb nice.


This is my favorite Chris verse, he floated.

 
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