JAY-Z ~ 4:44 (Discussion Thread)

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[Nero Christ]

Replay value is a funny thing. So many are saying this album lacks it, yet I've played this album more than any other hip hop album in the last two years (everything since Tetsuo and Youth).

those are the same exact 2 albums I can see along with Pinata gettin alot of replays from me. They all feature unique production which make em stand out and with Hov & Lu, you get lyricism that you can decipher for awhile, and Gibbs ain't no slouch either in that department, just not up there with those guys.

When the beats are knockin and the lyrics got depth, you got an album that has replay value simple as that

 

[DontEemTry]

Where all them nikkas that was tawmbout nobody checkin for Hov albums in 2017

Where all them nikkas that was tawmbout Hov need Kanye

 

[Gravity]

The more critical I am of the album, the more I disagree with that.

This feels more like Jay-Z making sure black people have his back as he's amongst crackers.

He's really only going as far as to say the music industry is unfair and he doesn't really go in.

But, much like Kanye, he's as pro-black as the amount of power he wants.

I still haven't forgot him dissing Mr. Belafonte simply because he asked him and his wife to do more for us.

This "behind-the-scenes" stuff ain't enough. He didn't support gay marriage BTS. He sat down and spoke on it. And it's too much "just hustle, you can be rich," instead of the truth of "they will only let the ones they choose inside."

It's a critical look into the music, but, I think that's fair.

you didn't even hold Obama to this standard.

 

[Easy-E]

you didn't even hold Obama to this standard.

Great post

I just got told i hold him to too high a standard

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/25683898/

 

[Gravity]

Great post

I just got told i hold him to too high a standard

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/25683898/

Ok maybe I've got you confused with an Obama apologist.

Still tho, I disagree with the post that you quoted. Jay has always done what he did on 4:44. He's been calling out white supremacy from the beginning of his career as well, and not just white supremacy within the music industry. Dude has been pretty consistent.

 

[Easy-E]

Ok maybe I've got you confused with an Obama apologist.

Still tho, I disagree with the post that you quoted. Jay has always done what he did on 4:44. He's been calling out white supremacy from the beginning of his career as well, and not just white supremacy within the music industry. Dude has been pretty consistent.

Dude

I listen to Jay either more or as much as you.

Jay-Z is more pro-Jay-Z than pro-Black.

Not saying he's a "c00n" but there's a gulf between pro-Black and where he's at.

I hated that Fred Hampton line because it was disingenuous. Jay has always gon at white ppl who disrespect HIM (Limbah)or mess with his money (Iovine). Can't he's out here staying up for us as a collective.

My opinion of course.

 

[Gravity]

Dude

I listen to Jay either more or as much as you.

Jay-Z is more pro-Jay-Z than pro-Black.

Not saying he's a "c00n" but there's a gulf between pro-Black and where he's at.

I hated that Fred Hampton line because it was disingenuous. Jay has always gon at white ppl who disrespect HIM (Limbah)or mess with his money (Iovine). Can't he's out here staying up for us as a collective.

My opinion of course.

I never said that dude was super pro-black or anything like that. I just said that he's been consistent. The post that you quoted saying that he's always been on the black empowerment thing was right. He's always been on that. Now he's not a super militant type cat who puts black empowerment above looking out for himself, but he's always touched on the struggle blacks have empowering ourselves in a racist system set up against us. You seemingly denied that claiming that he only talks about racism in the music biz.

 

[Easy-E]

Now he's not a super militant type cat who puts black empowerment above looking out for himself, but he's always touched on the struggle blacks have empowering ourselves in a racist system set up against us. You seemingly denied that claiming that he only talks about racism in the music biz.

I didnt deny anything

I don't think it's progressive for black ppl

 

[Gravity]

Jay has been on his "woke/black empowerment/ own your own masters " since the American gangster album

The more critical I am of the album, the more I disagree with that.

 

[mson]

The more critical I am of the album, the more I disagree with that.

This feels more like Jay-Z making sure black people have his back as he's amongst crackers.

He's really only going as far as to say the music industry is unfair and he doesn't really go in.

But, much like Kanye, he's as pro-black as the amount of power he wants.

I still haven't forgot him dissing Mr. Belafonte simply because he asked him and his wife to do more for us.

This "behind-the-scenes" stuff ain't enough. He didn't support gay marriage BTS. He sat down and spoke on it. And it's too much "just hustle, you can be rich," instead of the truth of "they will only let the ones they choose inside."

It's a critical look into the music, but, I think that's fair.

 

[Flav]

I'm listening to 444 song right now and can vision him rapping on the side line behind the scenes wile watching Beyoncé make that Hold Up video.



I need to be a video director.

 

[DontEemTry]

I'm listening to 444 song right now and can vision him rapping on the side line behind the scenes wile watching Beyoncé make that Hold Up video.



I need to be a video director.

Spliced with home videos and that elevator footage

 

[Flav]

Spliced with home videos and that elevator footage

Have Solange attack the camera so we could see the beat down from his point of view.

 

[goatnole]

Still bumping it like it just dropped.