Jay Electronica & Stickman Deny Ghostwriting for Nas

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Nas HIMSELF said he's never used one tho....also...think about this for a second...most verses are 16 bars minimal...most songs have 3 verses...add that up...a nikka gives u a line or 2...he helped u write the track and is ur ghostwriter?...come the fukk on son...

First of all, I don't believe everything everyone tells me. This includes my favorite rapper. That nikka ain't God.

Second, yes, even if a nikka only gives you a line or two out of 48, that shyt is helping to write the track. Stop trying to not make any sense. Should they get an album credit? Should they be considered a ghostwriter? Maybe, maybe not. I really don't care that much. If it happened, though, why not just say it. It wouldn't be a big deal to me. If anything, it would just help fans appreciate what the creative process looks like. Getting a line here and there would be no big deal, unless that line is, "life's a bytch, but God forbid the bytch divorce me, I'll be flooded with ice so hellfire can't scorch me." :ooh:
 

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RT @STICRBG @Nas rumors in the game is for lames, people speaking on things that they weren't even present for. Your work speaks for itself


<-Stic Man pretty much dissing Dream Hampton on twitter.

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When he say this? shyts almost exactly what I said. Great minds think alike as you can see :myman:
 
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:what: He said, "never has and never will need a ghostwriter." That means he never has needed a ghostwriter AND he never will need a ghostwriter. It does NOT mean he has never used a ghostwriter, though. :mjpls:

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See...this is what I'm talking about. You n1ggas are trying too hard. Go great breakfast first.
 

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wrong...jay elec said "never has", as in "never has used a ghostwriter."

u n1ggas are trying tooo hard

I'd say the side trying to find a denial in those quotes are trying too hard.

He said never as in never needed not never used, once again

And I'm not one saying he definitely did or didn't but it seems mighty funny they won't just flat out say "I did not". It would be a dead issue as far as I'm concerned at that point if they would tackle the concern head on instead of sayin how dope Nas is...come on now

They're just combatting the people who think having writers means you're wack or can't do it yourself...it's a stigma...
 

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the distinction again is between "ghostwriting" and collaborating. dream & that heartbroken blogger's initial comments (that they never walked back) are about ghostwriting like they did for Dre, Puffy, Lil Kim, Eazy E. She said it was largely written by other people!!
 

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First of all, I don't believe everything everyone tells me. This includes my favorite rapper. That nikka ain't God.

Second, yes, even if a nikka only gives you a line or two out of 48, that shyt is helping to write the track. Stop trying to not make any sense. Should they get an album credit? Should they be considered a ghostwriter? Maybe, maybe not. I really don't care that much. If it happened, though, why not just say it. It wouldn't be a big deal to me. If anything, it would just help fans appreciate what the creative process looks like. Getting a line here and there would be no big deal, unless that line is, "life's a bytch, but God forbid the bytch divorce me, I'll be flooded with ice so hellfire can't scorch me." :ooh:

He's not God..u right..and neither are any of these other nikkas..so what's the point of anyone sayin anything?...and if u think toss a line or 2 is ghostwriting than that's not an opinion...ur just wrong...I used to ghostwrite..that's not ghostwriting...thats called tossing a line or 2...that's like sayin if someone building a house and u put a doorknob on a door..u helped them build the house...u would get credit for ur contribution..but that would take NOTHING away from the builder...like I said..anything that Nas got help on..and collaborated on..was credited and explained...also don't think I'm coming at u in any kind of way my g..
 

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First of all, I don't believe everything everyone tells me. This includes my favorite rapper. That nikka ain't God.

Second, yes, even if a nikka only gives you a line or two out of 48, that shyt is helping to write the track. Stop trying to not make any sense. Should they get an album credit? Should they be considered a ghostwriter? Maybe, maybe not. I really don't care that much. If it happened, though, why not just say it. It wouldn't be a big deal to me. If anything, it would just help fans appreciate what the creative process looks like. Getting a line here and there would be no big deal, unless that line is, "life's a bytch, but God forbid the bytch divorce me, I'll be flooded with ice so hellfire can't scorch me." :ooh:


clearly you are Cormega.. announce yourself :stopitslime:
 

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See...this is what I'm talking about. You n1ggas are trying too hard. Go great breakfast first.

At this point, I'm more on a crusade to help improve people's reading comprehension. :whoo: It'd be one thing if you were trying to convince me what Jay Elec meant. It's another thing for you to try to persuade me that I don't understand the plain meaning of that sentence.

He's not God..u right..and neither are any of these other nikkas..so what's the point of anyone sayin anything?...and if u think toss a line or 2 is ghostwriting than that's not an opinion...ur just wrong...I used to ghostwrite..that's not ghostwriting...thats called tossing a line or 2...that's like sayin if someone building a house and u put a doorknob or a door..u helped them build the house...u would get credit for ur contribution..but that would take NOTHING away from the builder...like I said..anything that Nas got help on..and collaborated on..was credited and explained...also don't think I'm coming at u in any kind of way my g..

I'm not a ghostwriter so I'd have to defer to your expertise on that matter.

That house analogy is great and I agree with you for the most part. But what if that small contribution was something like, "Through the lights cameras and action, glamour glitters and gold; I unfold the scroll, plant seeds to stampede the globe." :whoo: That shyt is no longer a door knob. That is the master bedroom.
 

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the distinction again is between "ghostwriting" and collaborating. dream & that heartbroken blogger's initial comments (that they never walked back) are about ghostwriting like they did for Dre, Puffy, Lil Kim, Eazy E. She said it was largely written by other people!!
c/s. isee people tryna change the original allegation. she didn't say she heard hooks or concepts or beats, she said the whole album was largely written by stic man and electronica. what stic man said he did with the album, quite frankly, ya favourite rappers use the same methods. do these jay z warriors wanna talk about Can I Get A... or Empire State Of Mind? same tactics.
 
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