Jason Takes Manhattan is EASILY the worst in the franchise.

[MartyMcFly]

The remake was just as bad as the worst of the franchise though. And comparing it to either the OG or Part 2 (which introduced Jason) or The Final Chapter only serves to illustrate how bad the remake was in every way because those movies, while not high art, were well made films within the slasher genre. The remake is just garbage.

Meh disagree with you on that one breh. The remake, to me, is much better than a lot of the series but this is also coming from someone who's not overly fond of the series. @KidStranglehold said it better than I could so I'll just leave it there. Oh and the chick didn't have fake t*ts breh

 

[Jello Biafra]

The remake wasn't that bad. I swear people over-exaggerate just because it was a "remake". Just hard-nosed "Elite" fans who hate on it.

I am not one of those fans. I don't mind remakes (the remakes of Night of the Living Dead and Dawn of the Dead are two of my favorite zombie movies with the Night remake being better than the original to me) but this one just was not good at all.

Back to the mind shaft under camp. Again it was stupid, but iirc the producers/writers wanted to make sense on how he teleports.

See, I didn't need that explained. It is a horror trope that the bad guy seemingly can teleport or over at insane speeds without breaking stride from a brisk walking speed. Trying to unnecessarily explain a horror movie trope just illustrates to me that the people behind the movie didn't know what they were doing.

IMO the remake did NOTHING wrong that ruined the "legacy" of the original Friday The 13th films. Nada. If you're gonna say the 09 remake was worse or more ridiculous than New Blood, Jason Takes Manhattan, Jason Goes to Hell or the laughable Jason X, then you like every other fanboy is lying to yourself.

The 3 best movies in the franchise are the original, Part 2 and The Final Chapter (New Blood is a personal favorite of mine for specific reasons) and all of them are much better than the remake.
The remake is in the same category as the worst of the franchise.

If we're gonna talk about horror remakes ruining a franchise with SERIOUS story telling and a killer than lets talk about the Rob Zombie remakes of Halloween. Especially Halloween 2. Now that's a true remake butchering a original film franchise. The 09 remake of Friday The 13th did no such thing. It did not even positively or negatively add to the franchise at all.

I agree, the Halloween remakes were offensive, amateurish piles of shyt that I hate with a passion.
The Friday remake was just a bad movie.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

I am not one of those fans. I don't mind remakes (the remakes of Night of the Living Dead and Dawn of the Dead are two of my favorite zombie movies with the Night remake being better than the original to me) but this one just was not good at all.

Yet you never elaborate on how it is bad.

See, I didn't need that explained. It is a horror trope that the bad guy seemingly can teleport or over at insane speeds without breaking stride from a brisk walking speed. Trying to unnecessarily explain a horror movie trope just illustrates to me that the people behind the movie didn't know what they were doing.

Wait so that's the reason it ruined the film for you?

The 3 best movies in the franchise are the original, Part 2 and The Final Chapter (New Blood is a personal favorite of mine for specific reasons) and all of them are much better than the remake.
The remake is in the same category as the worst of the franchise.

Wait... New Blood is your personal favorite, but the remake is in the category of the worst of the franchise??? IMO New Blood is in the worst category. Again the 09 remake does not come close to Jason Takes Manhattan, Jason Goes to Hell, Jason X.

IMO the 09 remake is behind part 3 but ahead of part 5.

My personal ranking:

1. Part 6
2. Part 4
3. Part 2
4. Part 1
5. Part 3
6. 09 remake
7. Part 5

Note I only listed the good films and not the other trash that came after part 6. 09 if it were released back in the 80's would have looked like a typical Friday the 13th film. Hell I would even add that the 09 remakes didn't even have over the top unrealistic kills(when Jason was human), unlike the original films! Instead like I said his kills had skill to them like using a bow.

I agree, the Halloween remakes were offensive, amateurish piles of shyt that I hate with a passion.
The Friday remake was just a bad movie.

Yet you never detail on what negative stuff the 09 remake added to the franchise other than the mine shaft. The 09 remake to me was no different than the original Friday films. Only differences being that the 09 remake was "modern".

 

[Jello Biafra]

Yet you never elaborate on how it is bad.


Wait so that's the reason it ruined the film for you?

Yet you never detail on what negative stuff the 09 remake added to the franchise other than the mine shaft. The 09 remake to me was no different than the original Friday films. Only differences being that the 09 remake was "modern".

I detailed more than just the mine shaft in my first post about the remake:

There was just too much nonsense to ignore in the remake.
Jason holding bytches hostage.
Sam from Supernatural being more brolic than Jason.
The fact that Camp Crystal Lake was built on top of a mining shaft. And who builds a mine next to a lake anyway?
The townsfolk knowing about/keeping Jason's secret like he was just some harmless hobo who lived in the woods.

I would add that I liked the opening scenes and if that level of suspense would have been sustained I might have enjoyed the movie more but then Jason took that chick hostage and the rest of the movie became tedious and dull to me.

Wait... New Blood is your personal favorite, but the remake is in the category of the worst of the franchise??? IMO New Blood is in the worst category. Again the 09 remake does not come close to Jason Takes Manhattan, Jason Goes to Hell, Jason X.

IMO the 09 remake is behind part 3 but ahead of part 5.

My personal ranking:

1. Part 6
2. Part 4
3. Part 2
4. Part 1
5. Part 3
6. 09 remake
7. Part 5

Note I only listed the good films and not the other trash that came after part 6. 09 if it were released back in the 80's would have looked like a typical Friday the 13th film. Hell I would even add that the 09 remakes didn't even have over the top unrealistic kills(when Jason was human), unlike the original films! Instead like I said his kills had skill to them like using a bow.

I only consider 4 of them good, Friday the 13th, Friday the 13th Part 2, Friday the 13th: the Final chapter and Friday the 13th: New Blood (which is a favorite of mine but I recognize that it is not other people;s cup of tea). The remake just didn't work for me.

 

[satam55]

My 2 favorite "Friday the 13th" movies are "Freddy vs. Jason" and the 2009 remake. But I admit I eventually need to rewatch the movies 1-9 again.

The remake wasn't that bad. I swear people over-exaggerate just because it was a "remake". Just hard-nosed "Elite" fans who hate on it. Yeah the mine shaft under a kids camp was really stupid. Yeah the acting was kinda cheesy. Yeah the girls in the movie had fake t*ts. But overall the movie was a fun popcorn flick that I enjoyed and everyone else I knew enjoyed. Jason actually looked like a serious and realistic serial killer. The killings in the movie were unique and :scarysitebob:. My favorite one being when he uses the bow and arrow. Showing that Jason has SKILLS. Back to the mind shaft under camp. Again it was stupid, but iirc the producers/writers wanted to make sense on how he teleports. The movie wasn't bad. The Friday The 13th franchise was never a "blockbuster" franchise to begin with. As a huge fan(who watched ALL the films; including FVJ and read some of the comics) the original films were never that good. They were just films you would take your girlfriend to see so she would hug you. IMO the remake did NOTHING wrong that ruined the "legacy" of the original Friday The 13th films. Nada. If you're gonna say the 09 remake was worse or more ridiculous than New Blood, Jason Takes Manhattan, Jason Goes to Hell or the laughable Jason X, then you like every other fanboy is lying to yourself.

If we're gonna talk about horror remakes ruining a franchise with SERIOUS story telling and a killer than lets talk about the Rob Zombie remakes of Halloween. Especially Halloween 2. Now that's a true remake butchering a original film franchise. The 09 remake of Friday The 13th did no such thing. It did not even positively or negatively add to the franchise at all.

You can say the same about the 2010 "Nightmare on Elm Street" remake. I enjoyed both the "Friday the 13th" & "Nightmare on Elm Street" remakes and would love to won them in my Blu-ray/UV collection.

 

[MartyMcFly]

My 2 favorite "Friday the 13th" movies are "Freddy vs. Jason" and the 2009 remake. But I admit I eventually




You can say the same about the 2010 "Nightmare on Elm Street" remake. I enjoyed both the "Friday the 13th" & "Nightmare on Elm Street" remakes and would love to won them in my Blu-ray/UV collection.

Wasn't a fan of the nightmare remake but I was of the Friday the 13th remake. I think I can pinpoint why I disliked the nightmare one and it was mostly because outside of a few things, they really didn't do anything different or new with the material. It felt like a remixed version of the original

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

Wasn't a fan of the nightmare remake but I was of the Friday the 13th remake. I think I can pinpoint why I disliked the nightmare one and it was mostly because outside of a few things, they really didn't do anything different or new with the material. It felt like a remixed version of the original

What did u think jackie earle halleys performance?

 

[satam55]

Wasn't a fan of the nightmare remake but I was of the Friday the 13th remake. I think I can pinpoint why I disliked the nightmare one and it was mostly because outside of a few things, they really didn't do anything different or new with the material. It felt like a remixed version of the original

If want to see a remake where didn't do anything different or new with the material, you should watch the 2006 "The Omen" remake. That truly is a remake that was the exact same movie as the original just reshot with new actors & director. That WAS NOT the 2010 "Nightmare on Elm Street" remake.

 

[MartyMcFly]

If want to see a remake where didn't do anything different or new with the material, you should watch the 2006 "The Omen" remake. That truly is a remake that was the exact same movie as the original just reshot with new actors & director. That WAS NOT the 2010 "Nightmare on Elm Street" remake.

I didn't like that one either. And notice breh I said OUTSIDE OF A FEW THINGS lol I didn't say it did nothing new at all but for the most part it just seemed the same. The visuals were dope enough but it just did the same story with the same beats mostly and when it deliberately tried to recreate iconic scenes from the original, they paled in comparison. Freddy creeping through the wall? Much better with practical effects than the CGI they used in the remake. If you're not going to do it and make it look better than something created in 1984, why do it at all? I'm obviously not adverse to remakes in fact, here is my favorite quote from the IGN review of the flick:

I'm not one of those people who are automatically adverse to remakes -- they don't "ruin" the originals, which are still available to be seen (last I heard, they weren't systematically destroying all copies of the old Nightmare on Elm Street). But if you're going to remake something, why not have a truly fresh take on the material? Instead, one place the new Nightmare falters is in its frequent attempts to mimic or replicate the original. Several specific iconic images and moments from the original film are repeated here, giving the movie a frequent been there, done that feel that could have been avoided if the filmmakers simply took the basic concept and created all new scenarios.

This is exactly how I feel about the movie and remakes in general. They did some new things with the story or at least elaborated on stuff that was only hinted at in the original, but why not take more chances? Make it your own. Zombie made Halloween his own in part 2 and while I didn't like it at all, I appreciated him making it his own

What did u think jackie earle halleys performance?

Loved his performance, best thing about the movie

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

I didn't like that one either. And notice breh I said OUTSIDE OF A FEW THINGS lol I didn't say it did nothing new at all but for the most part it just seemed the same. The visuals were dope enough but it just did the same story with the same beats mostly and when it deliberately tried to recreate iconic scenes from the original, they paled in comparison. Freddy creeping through the wall? Much better with practical effects than the CGI they used in the remake. If you're not going to do it and make it look better than something created in 1984, why do it at all? I'm obviously not adverse to remakes in fact, here is my favorite quote from the IGN review of the flick:



This is exactly how I feel about the movie and remakes in general. They did some new things with the story or at least elaborated on stuff that was only hinted at in the original, but why not take more chances? Make it your own. Zombie made Halloween his own in part 2 and while I didn't like it at all, I appreciated him making it his own





Loved his performance, best thing about the movie

Yeah he came off sinister. good casting. but england will always be goat.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Yeah he came off sinister. good casting. but england will always be goat.

Yeah he was dope. Didn't try to imitate Robert and bought some menace and fear back to a character who'd become a comedian

 

[Ill Lou Malnati]

It's bad, but very entertaining. It was the first Jason movie I was allowed to watch.

I watched it alone in our basement.

But it was daytime.

No
Jason X is the absolute worst piece of shyt in the franchise:Hulk Hogan You FD Up:

It's bad, but Jason Goes to Hell is the WORST.

 

[kp404]

If want to see a remake where didn't do anything different or new with the material, you should watch the 2006 "The Omen" remake. That truly is a remake that was the exact same movie as the original just reshot with new actors & director. That WAS NOT the 2010 "Nightmare on Elm Street" remake.

And that's why the Omen remake is decent, popcorn movie and the Freddy remake is an unwatchable piece of shyt.

 

[MartyMcFly]

And that's why the Omen remake is decent, popcorn movie and the Freddy remake is an unwatchable piece of shyt.

If you ask me that's why they both suck. I don't want to see the same shyt, if you're going to remake something, do your own thing. Take the character or characters and put them in new situations but keep the spirit and tone. Make allusions to the original material, like Carpenter did and others have, but make it your own

 

[kp404]

If you ask me that's why they both suck. I don't want to see the same shyt, if you're going to remake something, do your own thing. Take the character or characters and put them in new situations but keep the spirit and tone. Make allusions to the original material, like Carpenter did and others have, but make it your own

I agree, but if I had to choose which to watch, I would pick the Omen, but both are useless movies...atleast the goofy fukkery from the OG Omen is still in the remake; But personally the Omen is the most overrated "classic" horror film to me