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If you haven't seen their stuff, I highly suggest you watch basically every MaruKENTA tag. They really rewrote the book of jr tag team wrestling in the early part of the decade. And I mean legit, pretty much every tag they had from 2003-2006 is varying levels of amazing, innovative, and of the charts. And from 2005-2009ish his singles stuff was really, really good. But he hit a plateau end even regressed a little as NOAH (and the company's style) got more insular. He would have benefitted a TON from working with others, just like how all of Maru's best singles matches post 2007 came in NJPW and AJPW.
 

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What would Kentas ranking have been ? It feels like he's viewed in wwe bigger than he was in Japan , idk if it's the right correlation but it's like tna grabbing dolph and making him a top star ( which could work i guess like Christian cages run )

In terms of work? KENTA would be a fringe top 10 guy, possibly top 15 if I really thought about it. I've been very down on his matches since 2011 to be honest.

As Don said, once Misawa died most of NOAH's match quality took a big hit. By 2011 it was really hard to find great matches.

But his 03'-10' run is fukking great and worth a look. Probably the best Junior during that period.
 

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In terms of work? KENTA would be a fringe top 10 guy, possibly top 15 if I really thought about it. I've been very down on his matches since 2011 to be honest.

As Don said, once Misawa died most of NOAH's match quality took a big hit. By 2011 it was really hard to find great matches.

But his 03'-10' run is fukking great and worth a look. Probably the best Junior during that period.

I probably wouldn't be this harsh, but the knee injuries have to be factored in here as well. The guy was, as others said, excellent (not just because of his work, but also because of his charisma and the way he carries himself. I have to keep reminding myself that the guy's only about 5'9") and was still a very good worker after two ACL surgeries (remarkable with his high-intensity style).

Dude could have used some excursions out of NOAH to New Japan as well. It seems that everyone who ever did that seemed to look better for it (Go Shiozaki more than anyone else). Would have been nice to see him fight fresh opponents in new situations, but NOAH doesn't exactly allow for that.

All in all, KENTA probably wouldn't have been top 10 as of the end of his Japan run, but that's just because of general wear and tear more than anything. It also speaks more to the quality of wrestling in Japan more than KENTA's level of talent.
 

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I probably wouldn't be this harsh, but the knee injuries have to be factored in here as well. The guy was, as others said, excellent (not just because of his work, but also because of his charisma and the way he carries himself. I have to keep reminding myself that the guy's only about 5'9") and was still a very good worker after two ACL surgeries (remarkable with his high-intensity style).

Dude could have used some excursions out of NOAH to New Japan as well. It seems that everyone who ever did that seemed to look better for it (Go Shiozaki more than anyone else). Would have been nice to see him fight fresh opponents in new situations, but NOAH doesn't exactly allow for that.

All in all, KENTA probably wouldn't have been top 10 as of the end of his Japan run, but that's just because of general wear and tear more than anything. It also speaks more to the quality of wrestling in Japan more than KENTA's level of talent.
Bruh, Go in NJ had a nikka like :noah: mild homo. He just BELONGED. He was born for the current NJ athletic, high paced style. The hard hitting NOAH style that developed just doesn't suit him at all. I watched some of his AJ stuff recently and he's even better :damn: I think he'd be one of the legit main event dudes with Naka, Tana, and Okada a level above the Goto's and Makabe's.

NJ did wonders for Sugi, too. He did a fair amount of jobbing before the GHC defense against Goto, but mixing it up with those dudes made him look like a star.

I was talking to my breh recently and we realized the NOAH dudes always came/looked their absolute best against NJ. The only one who didn't was when Tana who was still a midcarder made Rikio look like a fukking amateur at Green Destiny.
 

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Jarrett will produce Wrestle Kingdom for the States :patrice::

If you have been waiting word on when Jeff Jarrett's Global Force Wrestling will produce their first events, this should make you happy. If you are a fan of New Japan Pro Wrestling, this story should really make you happy.

PWInsider.com has confirmed with multiple sources in the PPV industry that a Global Force Wrestling PPV event is on carriers' schedules for 1/4/15. Of course, 1/4 is the date of what has been the biggest Japanese event of the year for seemingly forever, the annual New Japan Pro Wrestling Tokyo Dome event.

It would appear that Jarrett's company has brokered a deal to bring the Tokyo Dome show to United States PPV for the first time. Sources indicate that the deal and all marketing for the PPV would be branded GFW, not New Japan.

Jarrett, who announced plans to launch GFW the day after Wrestlemania 30, was revealed as a member of the Bullet Club faction in NJPW recently. Jarrett departed TNA in December 2013, although he remains a minority owner in the company.

When this afternoon via telephone, Jarrett declined to comment on this story.
 

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Meltzer Wall of Text incoming:

Jeff Jarrett is headed to Japan shortly to put the finishing touches on the battle plan for the Tokyo Dome show. He’ll be at the 10/13 Sumo Hall show. My impression is they will broadcast either New Japan promotional videos and/or current New Japan shows on the Global Force Wrestling web site to build the Dome show, since they don’t have any television support. It would make sense for the site to host the iPPVs the next few months but I’ve heard nothing in that direction and there is still no word of any broadcasting of the 10/13 show. Nobody has been able to make PPV work without TV support in pro wrestling with the exception of the UWFI in 1993, and that was with a huge TV ad budget (they bought commercials all over sports programming leading into the show) and this show will have no budget of the type. And nobody has been able to this point to use streaming on the Internet alone to build enough of a fan base in this or any similar genre, although my feeling is everyone would consider 10,000 buys as a home run here. New Japan Tokyo Dome shows in the early 90s were doing 60,000 to 80,000 U.S. buys and that was for shows taped delayed by several months, but they were also promoted by WCW, which had a lot of TV, and it was a different era in the sense PPVs were rarer and almost everything did better. The show will be called Global Force Wrestling presents New Japan Wrestle Kingdom from the Tokyo Dome. From the cable distributors side they want a $24.95 price tag, but New Japan charged $35 last year for the Dome on iPPV, so the price, not yet finalized, will fall somewhere in that range. I expect the PPV deal to be announced at the Sumo Hall show. The plan is for both a live showing, which would be on Saturday night right after what looks to be UFC’s biggest show of the year ends (Jon Jones vs. Daniel Cormier; Ronda Rousey vs. Cat Zingano double main event), and a replay at 8 p.m. on Sunday in the usual pro wrestling PPV time slot. It will be available on iPPV in both English and Japanese. It may be available in multiple languages on regular PPV as well. There’s still nothing on the potential broadcasting of the 10/13 show, past that there have been talks involving Jim Ross, but no deal has been reached. Ross teased it in an article by Brian Fritz, saying, “I’m very interested in doing special projects and that certainly would be on that list of a special project. And I think if they were serious about their marketing of their PPVs, and I guess their big show is January 4th, that if they were really serious about that event being a hit in the English-speaking countries, that I might be able to help them. I think their style is right down my alley. They’re physical, they’re intense, their wrestling is logical and I am a fan of it. But I wouldn’t want to do it in a TV studio somewhere and doing it as a voice over. If I did it, I’d want to be in Tokyo. I want to feel it. I want to be a part of it. I don’t want to be artificial. I want to be emotionally invested and I want to be physically there at ringside.” Ross said he’s had no talks with New Japan, which is accurate, but there have been talks with the GFW side. There is a potential issue which Ross outright said, having to do with Oklahoma Sooners football, and if they have a bowl game that same weekend.

With Jarrett at the show, and Jarrett having already done an angle with Hiroshi Tanahashi at the Seibu Dome show, I could see Jarrett costing Tanahashi the title match with A.J. Styles, and the Dome being Styles vs. Kazuchika Okada, Tanahashi vs. Jarrett, Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Katsuyori Shibata, the tag team tournament winners against Karl Anderson & Doc Gallows for the tag title, either a singles match with Kazushi Sakuraba vs. Minoru Suzuki or possibly a tag. Sakuraba did an interview where he teased himself teaming with Wanderlei Silva against Suzuki & a partner, but Silva is under a UFC contract where UFC would have to approve of him doing this. Usually UFC wouldn’t allow it, but given they can’t book Silva for a fight perhaps ever again, and certainly no time soon, there’s no reason for UFC to not allow it. New Japan owner Takaaki Kidani is a huge fan of the Pride era, but there are also those in New Japan who don’t like the crossover given it was that crossover that hurt the company badly for years and it’s only in last few years they’ve started to dig themselves out of that hole.

Also this was on the Observer board:
Koji Kanemoto was fired. He had beaten up a fan and it was such that there was no other decision that could be made.

:patrice:
 

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Not shocked about Koji. Beating up a fan, that is. He always seemed like the type of guy that might do something like that if set off. :yeshrug:
Why would you think that? He has a reputation for recklessness ? I mean the fans are so polite there lmao why would one get attacked
 

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Why would you think that? He has a reputation for recklessness ? I mean the fans are so polite there lmao why would one get attacked
Puro brehs go ham in crowds. Fighting in the stands wrecklessly, dives, etc etc. All it would take is one to respond poorly for this and you know a OG triple OG like Koji is going to protect the business. He'll be brought back whenever the issue dies down.
 

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Why would you think that? He has a reputation for recklessness ? I mean the fans are so polite there lmao why would one get attacked

If you've ever seen the way that Koji goes in on young boys (there's a match in which he beats the absolute dog piss out of a young Kazuchika Okada. Match was actually quite good for what it was, too), then him kicking some fan's ass won't shock you. He's that type of guy. And @Don Hollywood Herrera is right, he'll be brought back in a few months anyway, so he really doesn't have much to worry about.
 

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If you've ever seen the way that Koji goes in on young boys (there's a match in which he beats the absolute dog piss out of a young Kazuchika Okada. Match was actually quite good for what it was, too), then him kicking some fan's ass won't shock you. He's that type of guy. And @Don Hollywood Herrera is right, he'll be brought back in a few months anyway, so he really doesn't have much to worry about.
Ive heard about that Okada match ill have to look for that later
 

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Young Lion Okada had some great matches. Dude was a gamer since day 1, you knew he was going to be the next big thing back in 09'.
 
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