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Actually took the time to hear that, and it was :scust:

Using Nakanishi as an example of "he has had the title, no rush in him getting it back" is just :dead: Nakanishi got a token Thank You title run because Gedo decided to improvise and give Korakuen Hall a special moment after the FantasticaMania tour got cancelled. He was never meant to be champ and even though it resulted in a fun story that gave an interesting twist Tana's first Ace run - the days when Gedo was still creative - Nakanishi never even in the vicinity of being the draw Naito is or as over to warrant a 2nd title run.



The 1 year payoff thing is the exact same shyt people were spewing after WK 9, I honestly can't believe fans that defend the decision don't realize that. Wasting 1 year of booking is NOT worth the wait. WK 13 might be a huge success instead of the flop that was WK 10, but the story being told is exactly the same as just 3 fukking years ago :heh: and we still have no clue if Naito is gonna be injury free or if Gedo even has a fukking plan. There's a balance between long term booking and striking while the iron is hot and running with it, people keep forgetting this isn't the first time his coronation has been delayed, this is the 2nd year. Fans seem to shrug it off thinking Omega vs Okada didn't cockblock Naito the first time, but it did.



The lack of challengers shyt is just laughable. The guy says they shouldn't waste an Okada rematch in New Beginnings, but then says any other challenger wouldn't be a real threat....only to then show Sanada being the next challenger for Okada and not saying shyt about it :dead: Naito didn't need a strong challenger right off the bat. And hell, if you wanted to give him one, book him against Jericho for the belt, now THAT would get even more "mainstream" attention than what he says in #3.


I understand creating the narrative that Naito wasn't ready just like Okada wasn't ready in WK 9. It makes sense kayfabe wise and short term it wont hurt business as both are still draws and New Japan is pretty damn hot. Doesn't make that shyt is interesting to watch and that it was a wasted opportunity to give a much needed spark to the main event picture.
 

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Actually took the time to hear that, and it was :scust:

Using Nakanishi as an example of "he has had the title, no rush in him getting it back" is just :dead: Nakanishi got a token Thank You title run because Gedo decided to improvise and give Korakuen Hall a special moment after the FantasticaMania tour got cancelled. He was never meant to be champ and even though it resulted in a fun story that gave an interesting twist Tana's first Ace run - the days when Gedo was still creative - Nakanishi never even in the vicinity of being the draw Naito is or as over to warrant a 2nd title run.



The 1 year payoff thing is the exact same shyt people were spewing after WK 9, I honestly can't believe fans that defend the decision don't realize that. Wasting 1 year of booking is NOT worth the wait. WK 13 might be a huge success instead of the flop that was WK 10, but the story being told is exactly the same as just 3 fukking years ago :heh: and we still have no clue if Naito is gonna be injury free or if Gedo even has a fukking plan. There's a balance between long term booking and striking while the iron is hot and running with it, people keep forgetting this isn't the first time his coronation has been delayed, this is the 2nd year. Fans seem to shrug it off thinking Omega vs Okada didn't cockblock Naito the first time, but it did.



The lack of challengers shyt is just laughable. The guy says they shouldn't waste an Okada rematch in New Beginnings, but then says any other challenger wouldn't be a real threat....only to then show Sanada being the next challenger for Okada and not saying shyt about it :dead: Naito didn't need a strong challenger right off the bat. And hell, if you wanted to give him one, book him against Jericho for the belt, now THAT would get even more "mainstream" attention than what he says in #3.


I understand creating the narrative that Naito wasn't ready just like Okada wasn't ready in WK 9. It makes sense kayfabe wise and short term it wont hurt business as both are still draws and New Japan is pretty damn hot. Doesn't make that shyt is interesting to watch and that it was a wasted opportunity to give a much needed spark to the main event picture.


I started binge watching his videos last night, almost all of them is playing devils advocate and defending what a lot of NJPW fans have complained about
 

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Gedo has really stretched Naito's story out for 4 years now. And now he's intentionally added another year to it. Like....fukk. No one wants to wait another full year for Naito to get his crown. I know it's not exactly the same, but imagine WM14 comes around and Austin didn't win the title.

It's like...Naito probably isn't going to get any hotter than he was on 1/4/18. There's a very likely chance by the time the next match comes that the crowd won't be as into him. And there's a very likely chance by the time the next match comes around that the crowd will be less into Okada as well. Now, there is a chance maybe it will be hotter, but it's a pretty risky gamble for no reason other than you can.
 

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  • Bill Goldberg has reportedly been in talks with New Japan about coming in for a few big shows in 2018. If anything happens, it isn't expected to be anytime soon due to Goldberg appearing with WWE for the Hall of Fame as WWE almost always requires some sort of short-term deal for all inductees.

    -- As of now, the plan is for Paul Heyman to induct Goldberg into the WWE Hall of Fame in April.

:wtf: @ both
 

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Nakajima's great, I loved his G1 matches with Elgin, Naito and Shibata in particular, but IMO he's not Ace material in 2017 especially for a company that needs a major comeback like NOAH. Like, you look at him on stage next to Kento and Okada and there's a huge gap between those two and Nakajima.
 

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  • Bill Goldberg has reportedly been in talks with New Japan about coming in for a few big shows in 2018. If anything happens, it isn't expected to be anytime soon due to Goldberg appearing with WWE for the Hall of Fame as WWE almost always requires some sort of short-term deal for all inductees.

    -- As of now, the plan is for Paul Heyman to induct Goldberg into the WWE Hall of Fame in April.
:wtf: @ both
Goldberg name really isn't synonymous with anyone
 

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Paul Heyman is inducting him 100% because they're both Jewish and Paul can tell some funny Jew jokes and speak some lines in Hebrew. 100%.
 
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