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Have any of you seen the Weekly Pro super show at the dome that was the 1995 Observer show of the year? It's 6 fukking hours 
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I don't think it's easily available online. I mean, you can get it from XWT but it's in 6 parts, so I merged them into one file and will put it and the gigantic write up to go with it in a day or two. It's....something. The IWA Japan match is absolute insanity and might have actually stolen the show with how HOLY shyt it is on a constant basis the whole way through.
. I don't think it's easily available online. I mean, you can get it from XWT but it's in 6 parts, so I merged them into one file and will put it and the gigantic write up to go with it in a day or two. It's....something. The IWA Japan match is absolute insanity and might have actually stolen the show with how HOLY shyt it is on a constant basis the whole way through.
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Have any of you seen the Weekly Pro super show at the dome that was the 1995 Observer show of the year? It's 6 fukking hours
I don't think it's easily available online. I mean, you can get it from XWT but it's in 6 parts, so I merged them into one file and will put it and the gigantic write up to go with it in a day or two. It's....something. The IWA Japan match is absolute insanity and might have actually stolen the show with how HOLY shyt it is on a constant basis the whole way through.
I never knew the whole show was available
I've only watched the the All Japan 6 man tag like 10 years ago and it was CAM footage, is your file in better quality?How was Hashimoto vs Chono?
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Full talent roll call for NJ US shows
New Japan Pro Wrestling
~ Hiroshi Tanahashi
~ Michael Elgin
~ KUSHIDA
~ Jushin Thunder Liger
~ Juice Robinson
~ David Finlay
~ Yohei Komatsu
~ Sho Tanaka
~ Jay White
~ Billy Gunn
~ Yoshytatsu
CHAOS
~ Kazuchika Okada
~ Tomohiro Ishii
~ Rocky Romero
~ Barreta
~ Will Ospreay
Los Ingobernables de Japón
~ Tetsuya Naito
~ SANADA
~ EVIL
~ BUSHI
~ Hiromu Takahashi
SUZUKI-GUN
~ Zack Sabre Jr.
RING OF HONOR
~ Hanson
~ Raymond Rowe
~ Mark Briscoe
~ Jay Briscoe
~ Jay Lethal
CMLL
~ Volador Jr.
~ Dragon Lee
~ Titan
BULLET CLUB
~ Kenny Omega
~ Cody
~ Tama Tonga
~ Tanga Loa
~ Bad Luck Fale
~ Yujiro Takahashi
~ Hangman Page
~ Matt Jackson
~ Nick Jackson
~ Marty Scurll
ZACK FOOKIN SABRE JR? GET THE FOOK OUTTA HERE:suzuki:
New Japan Pro Wrestling
~ Hiroshi Tanahashi
~ Michael Elgin
~ KUSHIDA
~ Jushin Thunder Liger
~ Juice Robinson
~ David Finlay
~ Yohei Komatsu
~ Sho Tanaka
~ Jay White
~ Billy Gunn
~ Yoshytatsu
CHAOS
~ Kazuchika Okada
~ Tomohiro Ishii
~ Rocky Romero
~ Barreta
~ Will Ospreay
Los Ingobernables de Japón
~ Tetsuya Naito
~ SANADA
~ EVIL
~ BUSHI
~ Hiromu Takahashi
SUZUKI-GUN
~ Zack Sabre Jr.
RING OF HONOR
~ Hanson
~ Raymond Rowe
~ Mark Briscoe
~ Jay Briscoe
~ Jay Lethal
CMLL
~ Volador Jr.
~ Dragon Lee
~ Titan
BULLET CLUB
~ Kenny Omega
~ Cody
~ Tama Tonga
~ Tanga Loa
~ Bad Luck Fale
~ Yujiro Takahashi
~ Hangman Page
~ Matt Jackson
~ Nick Jackson
~ Marty Scurll
ZACK FOOKIN SABRE JR? GET THE FOOK OUTTA HERE:suzuki:
I never knew the whole show was available
How was Hashimoto vs Chono?
It's pro shot, but not the greatest quality. There's no commentary and occasional tracking issues, and the sound goes out for much of the AJPW match. It's also pretty washed out, so I tweaked it a little to give it some saturation. It's been up on XWT but split into pieces and has 1 seeder. I joined them together into one file. It's only SIX HOURS LONG. I'll have it up in a few minutes. He's a preview of the quality:
I guess Hashimoto/Chono has a bad reputation for shytting the bed or something? I guess I can kind of see why, since the rest of the show was basically everyone doing high spots the entire match, whereas Chono/Hash actually had a story and therefore downtime for submissions and stuff. On a NJPW show, it'd be looked upon pretty fondly, I think.
EDIT: Weekly Pro Wrestling Magazine: Bridge Of Dreams ~ Dome Spring Full Bloom
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It's pro shot, but not the greatest quality. There's no commentary and occasional tracking issues, and the sound goes out for much of the AJPW match. It's also pretty washed out, so I tweaked it a little to give it some saturation. It's been up on XWT but split into pieces and has 1 seeder. I joined them together into one file. It's only SIX HOURS LONG. I'll have it up in a few minutes. He's a preview of the quality:
I guess Hashimoto/Chono has a bad reputation for shytting the bed or something? I guess I can kind of see why, since the rest of the show was basically everyone doing high spots the entire match, whereas Chono/Hash actually had a story and therefore downtime for submissions and stuff. On a NJPW show, it'd be looked upon pretty fondly, I think.
EDIT: Weekly Pro Wrestling Magazine: Bridge Of Dreams ~ Dome Spring Full Bloom
It's in better quaility than what I remember watching years ago.
I was always curious about Hash vs Chono because I didn't really trust reviews from those days. A New Japan style main event had no shot of getting praised in that kind of show, so I always wondered how good it actually was.
ps: That gif from God bleeding and punching Foley
that's my GOAT US wrestler 
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It's important for NJPW to be themselves and authentic for the LA shows.
good episode covering njpw's expansion/business
It's important for NJPW to be themselves and authentic for the LA shows.
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I have Sling TV instead of cable (only 25 bucks a month), and AXS TV is part of the regular channel lineup (El Rey, too)...this is truly amazing news.
This means we getting that torrent/online video ASAP
Did not think I'd be seeing the G1 Special live. Very hyped now.
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Don't know if there's enough interest in here for a thread about this, so I'll put it here. CMLL fired their world (Máximo) and junior champions (La Máscara from Los Ingobernables de México) due to some shady union shyt 
From thecubsfan:
La Mascara & Maximo have been fired from CMLL for their roles in destroying Ultimo Guerrero’s car on Friday morning in incident captured by video, according to SuperLuchas. (I was told the same this morning, but was unable to confirm it.) Maximo is currently the CMLL heavyweight champion. La Mascara is CMLL’s current CMLL Light Heavyweight champion. Neither of those belts mean all that much. Both are free agents and would be obvious signings by AAA, but pending civil and criminal lawsuits may stand in the way. CMLL has made no public statement on this situation as of Saturday afternoon (and may not until Monday).
Mascara is still being advertised for tonight’s show in Arena Coliseo, but will not work that or any other shows for CMLL. Maximo is additionally advertised as being on the annual DragonMania show next Saturday, a tag match with Marco opposite Rey Bucanero & Ultimo Guerrero of all people, but probably will not work that show either. AAA has a previously scheduled TV taping on Friday in Mexico City, and they theoretically would be free to work that show.
This all stems from the death of Brazo de Oro and the future of the CMLL in house union. While the organization is usually quickly referred to as a wrestler’s union, it’s kind of not either: SuperLuchas points out it technically represents a different group of people and the head of the union is led by someone appointed by CMLL head Paco Alonso (instead of actually controlled by the people who work there, like a normal union.) Brazo de Oro had run the union for the last couple decades, and there had always been quiet rumors of corruption and favoritism, but no one wanting to speak publicly about it for fear of reprisal. Those who disagreed with the union felt it supported management more than the wrestlers, took bribes to get around drug tests, and generally stole from the wrestlers, but there was nothing they could really do about it.
Nitro is currently technically head of the union – he had a role with the group and was next in succession when Brazo de Oro passed. La Mascara wanted to take over his father’s role in the union, fitting the dissenter’s sense that the union was more a Alvarado family business than something representing them. There was a meeting on Thursday where the future of the union was talked about, and Ultimo Guerrero said negative things about Brazo de Oro, maybe voicing some of those complaints, and possibly said some negative things about La Mascara replacing him. La Mascara and Maximo were there. The Alvarados were angry, and smashed up Ultimo Guerrero’s car.
It’s not clear Ultimo Guerrero even wanted to be head of the union himself, but saying negative things about the union and paying a price was the reason everyone had stayed quiet about it until now. In the end, it’s still Paco Alonso who gets to decide who’s head of this union and it’s not clear who he’ll pick. It’s also Paco Alonso who gets to pick who’s working for CMLL, and he’s decided La Mascara and Maximo will no longer work there.
Ultimo Guerrero indicated on Facebook he’s going to press charges. That’s a fair response to what happened, but also complicates the next step for La Mascara & Maximo. AAA is absolutely going to want to sign them. They desperately want names. Latin Lover revealed he was contacted by Vampiro about coming back a few weeks ago, and it’s been clear they’ve been looking to bring in starts this year to offset the losses with not a lot of success. It would be perfect timing for Maximo & Mascara to debut this coming Friday on their Mexico City taping, but would risk very bad press given this situation. It’s unclear if AAA is really worried about bad press at this point. (There were also rumors of WWE being interested in La Mascara last year. That might be something he’ll be looking into again.) Psycho Clown may also be facing legal charges since he was part of the incident.
CMLL owns the trademarks to La Mascara, Maximo Sexy and Los Ingobernables. They were in a protracted fight for simply “Maximo” with a non wrestling business, did not get it, and that’s why Maximo Sexy had the awkward name change. He could make another change, and La Mascara had already suggested changing his name to something Brazo de Oro related.
This situation may end up sucking in a lot more than these three people. He’s not been identified because he’s not as big a name as his cousins, but I’ve been told Robin was part of this as well. He may be fired, or he may just quit to go along with his family (that sort of jump worked out a lot for Argenis & a little bit for Argos.) Brazo de Plata is unlikely to return to CMLL, as had been his plan – he’s going to stay loyal to his family. You can keep spiraling it from there – how does this affect La Mascara’s great friend Rush? The rest of Rush’s family? Negro Casas with his son in law involved? Two main event CMLL luchadors being fired would be big in itself, but this has the potential to really change the landscape of lucha libre.
That video out there changes everything. It’s no surprised it got passed around and leaked after it was taken, but it was taken in the first place. I made a mistake yesterday – CMLL’s parking garage is public, but there are private restricted areas in there, and that’s where the incident looks to be taking place. Whoever took that video probably had a good idea it was going to happen, and wanted it on film for their own reasons. This is just a story, maybe even an urban legend without that video.
From thecubsfan:
La Mascara & Maximo have been fired from CMLL for their roles in destroying Ultimo Guerrero’s car on Friday morning in incident captured by video, according to SuperLuchas. (I was told the same this morning, but was unable to confirm it.) Maximo is currently the CMLL heavyweight champion. La Mascara is CMLL’s current CMLL Light Heavyweight champion. Neither of those belts mean all that much. Both are free agents and would be obvious signings by AAA, but pending civil and criminal lawsuits may stand in the way. CMLL has made no public statement on this situation as of Saturday afternoon (and may not until Monday).
Mascara is still being advertised for tonight’s show in Arena Coliseo, but will not work that or any other shows for CMLL. Maximo is additionally advertised as being on the annual DragonMania show next Saturday, a tag match with Marco opposite Rey Bucanero & Ultimo Guerrero of all people, but probably will not work that show either. AAA has a previously scheduled TV taping on Friday in Mexico City, and they theoretically would be free to work that show.
This all stems from the death of Brazo de Oro and the future of the CMLL in house union. While the organization is usually quickly referred to as a wrestler’s union, it’s kind of not either: SuperLuchas points out it technically represents a different group of people and the head of the union is led by someone appointed by CMLL head Paco Alonso (instead of actually controlled by the people who work there, like a normal union.) Brazo de Oro had run the union for the last couple decades, and there had always been quiet rumors of corruption and favoritism, but no one wanting to speak publicly about it for fear of reprisal. Those who disagreed with the union felt it supported management more than the wrestlers, took bribes to get around drug tests, and generally stole from the wrestlers, but there was nothing they could really do about it.
Nitro is currently technically head of the union – he had a role with the group and was next in succession when Brazo de Oro passed. La Mascara wanted to take over his father’s role in the union, fitting the dissenter’s sense that the union was more a Alvarado family business than something representing them. There was a meeting on Thursday where the future of the union was talked about, and Ultimo Guerrero said negative things about Brazo de Oro, maybe voicing some of those complaints, and possibly said some negative things about La Mascara replacing him. La Mascara and Maximo were there. The Alvarados were angry, and smashed up Ultimo Guerrero’s car.
It’s not clear Ultimo Guerrero even wanted to be head of the union himself, but saying negative things about the union and paying a price was the reason everyone had stayed quiet about it until now. In the end, it’s still Paco Alonso who gets to decide who’s head of this union and it’s not clear who he’ll pick. It’s also Paco Alonso who gets to pick who’s working for CMLL, and he’s decided La Mascara and Maximo will no longer work there.
Ultimo Guerrero indicated on Facebook he’s going to press charges. That’s a fair response to what happened, but also complicates the next step for La Mascara & Maximo. AAA is absolutely going to want to sign them. They desperately want names. Latin Lover revealed he was contacted by Vampiro about coming back a few weeks ago, and it’s been clear they’ve been looking to bring in starts this year to offset the losses with not a lot of success. It would be perfect timing for Maximo & Mascara to debut this coming Friday on their Mexico City taping, but would risk very bad press given this situation. It’s unclear if AAA is really worried about bad press at this point. (There were also rumors of WWE being interested in La Mascara last year. That might be something he’ll be looking into again.) Psycho Clown may also be facing legal charges since he was part of the incident.
CMLL owns the trademarks to La Mascara, Maximo Sexy and Los Ingobernables. They were in a protracted fight for simply “Maximo” with a non wrestling business, did not get it, and that’s why Maximo Sexy had the awkward name change. He could make another change, and La Mascara had already suggested changing his name to something Brazo de Oro related.
This situation may end up sucking in a lot more than these three people. He’s not been identified because he’s not as big a name as his cousins, but I’ve been told Robin was part of this as well. He may be fired, or he may just quit to go along with his family (that sort of jump worked out a lot for Argenis & a little bit for Argos.) Brazo de Plata is unlikely to return to CMLL, as had been his plan – he’s going to stay loyal to his family. You can keep spiraling it from there – how does this affect La Mascara’s great friend Rush? The rest of Rush’s family? Negro Casas with his son in law involved? Two main event CMLL luchadors being fired would be big in itself, but this has the potential to really change the landscape of lucha libre.
That video out there changes everything. It’s no surprised it got passed around and leaked after it was taken, but it was taken in the first place. I made a mistake yesterday – CMLL’s parking garage is public, but there are private restricted areas in there, and that’s where the incident looks to be taking place. Whoever took that video probably had a good idea it was going to happen, and wanted it on film for their own reasons. This is just a story, maybe even an urban legend without that video.
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Naito is destroying the belt
It must be leading to a new belt.
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Shuji Ishikawa is a fukking Triple Crown champion gotta watch that match ASAP. There's definitely a chance it created some of that Korakuen magic
All Japan really is the new Zero One
gotta watch that match ASAP. There's definitely a chance it created some of that Korakuen magic All Japan really is the new Zero One