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Okada winning the IWGP title ending Kitamura's 1 year long reign gonna sell out the Dome :heh:


But honestly, I'm glad Kidani is not stupidly ambitious like most wrestling promoters. Breh has a long term plan, I hope it works out for them :obama:



Not that I'm aware of. Match was meh IIRC.
You need to see it and speak it into existence if you want it to happen. Kidani can say that NJPW will be the most profitable business on the planet by 2020 and I'd see nothing wrong with it. The law of attraction is very much real.

Take it from the biggest draw in this PPV business of ours:

 

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Things that won't sell out the Tokyo Dome:

Trying to expand into America, where at the most you'll be west coast ROH but not as fun as PWG. I really don't see how they don't blow a bunch of money on this endeavor. They've tried it before and it failed hard.
Doing a territory in America sounds weak because you would think it wouldn't nearly as good as the main NJPW. We'll see, though. I'm here for the ride.
 

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You need to see it and speak it into existence if you want it to happen. Kidani can say that NJPW will be the most profitable business on the planet by 2020 and I'd see nothing wrong with it. The law of attraction is very much real.

Take it from the biggest draw in this PPV business of ours:



What the fukk are you even talking about :dwillhuh: I said I'm glad with Kidani's point of view and you just reply a bunch of nonsense :dead:

Things that won't sell out the Tokyo Dome:

Trying to expand into America, where at the most you'll be west coast ROH but not as fun as PWG. I really don't see how they don't blow a bunch of money on this endeavor. They've tried it before and it failed hard.

I mean, if DGUSA didn't work it's hard for the new LA Dojo to do anything worth a damn in the grand scheme of things. But I don't think they'll blow a bunch of money. It's gonna be small at first, if it starts working out they'll put more money and effort. As soon as it fails they'll pull the plug. I don't see Kidani making the same mistakes as dumb ass Shiraishi (who said All Japan was going to sell out the Dome in 2017 and lasted 2 years on the job :dead: :dead:) or Simon Inoki. If shyt fails, it fails but I don't see it being a big money loser for New Japan.

But the US indy has nothing to do with Kidani saying the goal is to sell out the Dome in 2020. It's two completely different quotes.
 

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What the fukk are you even talking about :dwillhuh: I said I'm glad with Kidani's point of view and you just reply a bunch of nonsense :dead:



I mean, if DGUSA didn't work it's hard for the new LA Dojo to do anything worth a damn in the grand scheme of things. But I don't think they'll blow a bunch of money. It's gonna be small at first, if it starts working out they'll put more money and effort. As soon as it fails they'll pull the plug. I don't see Kidani making the same mistakes as dumb ass Shiraishi (who said All Japan was going to sell out the Dome in 2017 and lasted 2 years on the job :dead: :dead:) or Simon Inoki. If shyt fails, it fails but I don't see it being a big money loser for New Japan.

But the US indy has nothing to do with Kidani saying the goal is to sell out the Dome in 2020. It's two completely different quotes.
You always get mad when people say something big because they're "delusional." That's not the right mindset. That's restricting yourself. Promoters should say they're going to be the #1 company on the planet and revolutionize entertainment. Speak it into existence.
 

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What the fukk are you even talking about :dwillhuh: I said I'm glad with Kidani's point of view and you just reply a bunch of nonsense :dead:



I mean, if DGUSA didn't work it's hard for the new LA Dojo to do anything worth a damn in the grand scheme of things. But I don't think they'll blow a bunch of money. It's gonna be small at first, if it starts working out they'll put more money and effort. As soon as it fails they'll pull the plug. I don't see Kidani making the same mistakes as dumb ass Shiraishi (who said All Japan was going to sell out the Dome in 2017 and lasted 2 years on the job :dead: :dead:) or Simon Inoki. If shyt fails, it fails but I don't see it being a big money loser for New Japan.

But the US indy has nothing to do with Kidani saying the goal is to sell out the Dome in 2020. It's two completely different quotes.

They are related because the company is needlessly pulling itself in two different directions, which means neither side is going to get the full attention it needs. "Hey, let's do this side thing that has nothing to do with or will be helpful to our main company goal in the next 3 years" always works out well.
 

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They are related because the company is needlessly pulling itself in two different directions, which means neither side is going to get the full attention it needs. "Hey, let's do this side thing that has nothing to do with or will be helpful to our main company goal in the next 3 years" always works out well.
:patrice:they're a company bro. corporations do this all the time. it is related because they want to create new stars from the U.S. that can help them draw in the future for the main company.
 

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They are related because the company is needlessly pulling itself in two different directions, which means neither side is going to get the full attention it needs. "Hey, let's do this side thing that has nothing to do with or will be helpful to our main company goal in the next 3 years" always works out well.

Being able to sell out the Dome - or at least get 45-50k in attendance, which is a bit more realistic - has little to do with how they run their US dojo/indy imo. The efforts being put into them are so different and will involve different people that I just don't think they are related. If Wrestle Kingdom 14 only draws 20-30k I highly doubt it's going to be because of the LA project :manny:

You always get mad when people say something big because they're "delusional." That's not the right mindset. That's restricting yourself. Promoters should say they're going to be the #1 company on the planet and revolutionize entertainment. Speak it into existence.

I'm saying Kidani has the right mindset because he actually has a fukking plan. Most promoters say wild shyt just to get attention but have no clue how the fukk they are going to pull their bullshyt off. Kidani seems like a grounded, well thought out dude, and that's a completely out of the norm when it comes to wrestling and I'm happy he's running things in a company like New Japan. I hope shyt works out well for him.

I'm glad you weren't here when Shiraishi was talking big and having even bigger "plans" than Kidani :mjlol: Or when Jeff fukking Jarrett was conning people with his varied wack as projects.
 

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What did you think? There's another match from the carnival i can link you after.
I didn't finish it . Was gonna watch it in my train ride home . Can you give me some context on him ? That's the beauty of bullet club they kind of provided me a entryway into puro and then from them kind of figured out their characters
 

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The Bodyguard didn't walk out to Whitney Houston? :martin: What a waste.
How'd you like the match? I follow the Voices of Wrestling matches of the month editorial and they love following Miyahara.
 

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New Japan owner Takaaki Kidani unveils grand future plans in Japan and the US | NEW JAPAN PRO-WRESTLING Som really interesting stuff there.

New Japan owner Takaaki Kidani unveils grand future plans in Japan and the US
May 16 saw Takaaki Kidani, the owner of New Japan Pro-Wrestling, appear in Tokyo to discuss NJPW’s future business plans.

Kidani’s talk followed an announcement from New Japan’s medical staff about the injuries sustained by Katsuyori Shibata and Tomoaki Honma. In regards to the health and safety of NJPW talent, Kidani stated that he wanted to ‘closely re-examine everything’.

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New Japan’s sales have consistently increased annually since 2012, and the trend is set to continue in 2017. NJPW is projecting sales of 3.7 billion Yen (roughly 32.6 million USD) for their 2017 reporting period. New Japan is projecting sales of 4.5 billion Yen for 2018, with a goal of 5 billion. Kidani hopes to ‘maximize the earning potential’ of each wrestler on the New Japan roster, while reducing their dates in order to conserve health.

As talk turned to America, Kidani touched on the differences in business between New Japan, and the market leader, WWE. In terms of merchandise sales, Kidani said that New Japan’s numbers are around ‘a fifth to a quarter’ of WWE’s, but that in the realm of digital goods and distribution, things are not even close.

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As a result, Kidani announced three major tentpoles of New Japan’s business in the near future. These consisted of:

● Live strategy
● Digital strategy
● Global strategy
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First, Kidani talked about the company’s live strategy, and announced a long term goal of a full house at the Tokyo Dome by 2020. He cited NJPW’s traditional January 4th Tokyo Dome show falling on a Saturday that year as a big opportunity. Said Kidani, ‘We want 40-45,000 tickets sold. A sold number of over 40,000 is something we can call a full house.’ Kidani also stated that due to increased media exposure and active promotion, live houses in venues across the country have improved.

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On a related note, Kidani commented on last year’s Buddyfight commercial starring Kazuchika Okada and Milla Jovovich. ‘Lots of people asked why I we did that- it was mainly out of frustration at a lot of our guys moving to America,’ he glibly remarked, before stating the commercial was a direct appeal to America in general and Hollywood in particular.

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Next was discussion of a digital roadmap, and a goal of 100,000 subscribers to the NJPW World service, which would make it Japan’s largest streaming distribution service. Of the 50,000 current subscribers to NJPW World, 10,000 are outside Japan. This in addition to 200,000 weekly viewers of New Japan’s AXS TV show in the States.

New Japan World received a site update on May 16, and in the next few days, viewers will be more easily able to access NJPW World through Chromecast and Amazon Fire TV.

Kidani also declared an intention to increase live streamed shows, not just from New Japan itself, but global partners in the form of Ring of Honor, Revolution Pro, and CMLL. There is also a desire to increase the archive content on the World site, and Kidani would like feedback from fans on what kind of original programming they’d like to see on the service. Kidani also pointed to May 17th’s free airing of the Best of the Super Junior tournament opening show as a chance to appeal to new users.

The third tentpole was global strategy, and New Japan’s advance into America. Both Los Angeles G1 Special cards on July 1st and 2nd sold out in the span of two hours. Due to fan demand, extra seating was made available, and these tickets sold out in two minutes. To give an idea of the size of the Long Beach Convention Center to the Japanese media, Kidani likened it to the Ota Gymnasium, and surmised that ‘personally, I think we can run in buildings twice that size’.

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In terms of longer term strategy in the US, Kidani talked about plans to start a functioning US subsidiary next year, as well as a dojo based in America, and the IWGP US title announced at ROH’s War of the Worlds event this past weekend.

In analysing NJPW’s prospects in the US, Kidani stated that the company’s unique strengths are ‘presenting the best in ring wrestling in the world, a long history, and an original product not available anywhere else.’ Kidani also stated a desire to sell American cable networks on NJPW content.



With this mindset, Kidani stated he wanted the New Japan product to be presented ‘as is’ to American fans, giving them a unique experience. In regards to developing new stars, he said that we live in an era where ‘stars can be born in an instant’. With the goal of growing American business, Kidani talked about working with American promotions in order to nurture new talent, and bringing a Japanese style of touring promotion to a US territory.

In closing, Kidani said that it’s his goal to expose new, broader audiences to the joys of New Japan, while also taking greater care of the talent involved. It was a strong statement of intent for a company approaching a new stage in its 45 year history.

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How'd you like the match? I follow the Voices of Wrestling matches of the month editorial and they love following Miyahara.
I enjoyed it but I think I need to see more to understand the hype behind him.
 

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Japanese people really don't give a fukk about a streaming service. I get New Japan not getting 100,000 subs but NOTHING getting to that number so far is very telling.

I enjoyed it but I think I need to see more to understand the hype behind him.

Check these ones out :salute:
Joe Doering vs Kento Miyahara
Fantastic 13 minute match here. Doering and Miyahara did as much as they possible could with the time they had. Simple and effective story, good work on top by Joe and really nice baby face selling by Miyahara. Crowd was very into it too. I think the only thing I found "meh" about this was the strikes exchanges, thought they didn't really add much to the match. Definitely check this one out brehs.



Doering vs Sekimoto was really fun too. 6 minute sprint between two powerhouses :obama:
Kento Miyahara (c) vs. Daisuke Sekimoto
That match ruled as expected. Korakuen brought the heat as I hoped too :blessed: @Honga Ciganesta and @The Rainmaker y'all should check it out.

I love when Daisuke focuses on the neck area because he doesn't do as much filler stuff and just goes TO WORK on that body part. This was kinda similar to the 2012 classic between Sekimoto and Yoshihito Sasaki were Daisuke does everything in his power to attack the neck (including a top rope elbow instead of the frog splash and going straight to the STF instead of 1-2 minutes of a boston crab) and his opponent has to crawl back to even things up. Korakuen is hot as fukk as usual for a match like this, still kinda surprised it sounded like the majority of the crowd were women and children instead of your typical hardcore puro male fans. This was fukking awesome and I LOVED they didn't went too long, simple and effective story with a hot crowd will always make me go :blessed:

@TOAD99 breh, I could give you like 30 Sekimoto matches that you would enjoy-love if you were that into this match :wow: He's one of my favorite wrestlers of the last 10 years. If you are just looking for more Daisuke vs Kento matches, they had one at he Champions Carnival this year that was quite good (though not as great as the title match you just watch) but with a tamer crowd as it was on a small venue in Osaka. They also had a tag match a couple of weeks ago though I haven't seen it yet.
 
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