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Baba is the best booker ever imo.:yeshrug:
Agreed. Don’t think it’s that debatable, to be honest. Yes, when he died their business was trending downward, but that was basically a decade into their run at the time.


How massively everyone who tried failed to replicate what he accomplished with the King’s Road is enough to cement his status as GOAT.


WWF went into the damn dark ages trying to transition from Hogan to a new generation at the same time that he did the same thing and created arguably wrestling’s greatest run.
 

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Agreed. Don’t think it’s that debatable, to be honest. Yes, when he died their business was trending downward, but that was basically a decade into their run at the time.


How massively everyone who tried failed to replicate what he accomplished with the King’s Road is enough to cement his status as GOAT.


WWF went into the damn dark ages trying to transition from Hogan to a new generation at the same time that he did the same thing and created arguably wrestling’s greatest run.
I wouldn't wish for someone to recreate king's road. It took years off people's lives.
 

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I wouldn't wish for someone to recreate king's road. It took years off people's lives.
King's Road isn't really a style, merely a shorthanded way to explain Baba's booking vision. The style =/= the vision, and the escalated style only came about after the transition was already over. It's the transition that's booking genius at a level no one has ever duplicated. Also, how people chose to execute that vision isn't squarely on Baba. Neither Akiyama, Kawada, or Taue took it to the level Kobashi or especially Misawa did.
 
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Watched New Beginning in Sapporo. Wasn't feeling it at all. Typical undercard of bleh to build up other matches, and then after such a dull undercard, Suzuki/Okada doing a match with 30 mins of leg locks felt pretty boring to me. Especially since the leg work ultimately went nowhere, as Okada was still able to do all of his spots (standing dropkick, corner dropkick, missile dropkick, flying elbow, kip up) with no problems. But then they work this almost 70s AJPW style and randomly have a ref bump and big run in brawl that....also goes nowhere, as the match went right back to leg locks as soon as the brawl was over. Felt very incongruous and unnecessary with the match they were working.

Idk, I was getting HHH/Rollins vibes. I hope I'm able to get Okada = Rollins out of my head, if not, he's ruined forever for me. His selling really sucks, though. The screaming and not being able to walk to dropkicks where he jumps over the ropes and poses. I hate that grabbing or slapping your knee for a second counts as selling now. As long as you slap your knee before and/or after, it's cool to go from not being able to walk to being able to jump 12 feet in the air. He also DESPERATELY needs to either learn to strike harder or cut out strike battles from his matches, because when he's throwing those weak ass elbows or slaps at a dude like Suzuki :mjlol:
 

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Just saw the September 1990 match between Jumbo and Misawa for triple crown contendership. Good match.
 

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Came home on my birthday to find that my ex had sent me this from Japan:

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The DVD has his personal favorite matches and the magazine is a ten year retrospective of his career from Young Lion to IWGP Heavyweight champion. She holding a breh down from the Far East.
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Do Japanese wrestlers like Kento Miyahara and Nakajima view NJPW as the end-goal like North American wrestlers view the WWE? I wonder what their goals are.
 

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On the other hand, NOAH drew 800 people to Korakuen. And who knows how many of them actually paid :francis: such a waste of talent keeping that damn company alive.

BTW, All Japan had a lot going for today's show. It's the 45th anniversary of the Champions Carnival, it's Day 1 of the tournament AND it's Korakuen 55th anniversary. I'm still pissed they didn't book Miyahara vs Daisuke for this show :stopitslime:

Do Japanese wrestlers like Kento Miyahara and Nakajima view NJPW as the end-goal like North American wrestlers view the WWE? I wonder what their goals are.

No. Most puro wrestlers are very loyal to the people that brought the up in the business, and given how interpromotional work is very common they can freelance/invade for a while when they want more money/work and then go back their "home" promotion.

If they go to other places it's very likely that ownership changed or the guys that they are loyal to left the company.
 
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On the other hand, NOAH drew 800 people to Korakuen. And who knows how many of them actually paid :francis: such a waste of talent keeping that damn company alive.

BTW, All Japan had a lot going for today's show. It's the 45th anniversary of the Champions Carnival, it's Day 1 of the tournament AND it's Korakuen 55th anniversary. I'm still pissed they didn't book Miyahara vs Daisuke for this show :stopitslime:



No. Most puro wrestlers are very loyal to the people that brought the up in the business, and given how interpromotional work is very common they can freelance/invade for a while when they want more money/work and then go back their "home" promotion.

If they go to other places it's very likely that ownership changed or the guys that they are loyal to left the company.
Guess Miyahara is gonna have to get AJPW to the #2 spot to become a big star then.
 
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