Essential Japanese Wrestling Discussion/News
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Beautiful Bobby Eatin
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Page is weird but if it helps Cody Hall get better im all for it.
If I remember that list of ROH wrestlers they were interested in all of them (and even Jay lethal who wasn't on the list from what I remember) have made their way over to Japan except for Cole and Page. This is a odd way to do it in my opinion since the bullet club brand is kind of reaching NWO status.
Bullet Club brand reached NWO Silver levels (and I'm talking when it was just down to Double J and the Harris Brothers) the day it was formed. The only reason it has any credibility now is because AJ got put in it and was the best dude in the world for the 2 years he was in NJPW. People seem to gloss over that BC was HATED in Japan and America until AJ saved it and they dropped the Russo level fukkery finishes that ruined literally every match BC was involved in.
Beautiful Bobby Eatin
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The Bullet Club started off as four friends who trained in the Dojo together who never really got the shots everyone else did so they came together for success.
Bullet Club wasnt hated over here. Never was. It was treated with apathy until the Bucks joined and theyve been babyface over here ever since.
They are hated in Japan because they are an American stable right down to the run ins. Japanese stables are usually loose affiliations under a banner but the Bullet Club is a unit and terrorize New Japan (they generally all hold the titles at once too).
Plus, theyre heels. They are supposed to be hated.
Credibility came when theyvput the title on most of the members. They never put it on Devitt (nor should they have) so the angle spun its wheels in the first year.
Either way the comparison you used is way off base. If it gets to be that it starts with Adam Page (who is essentially Buff Bagwell at this point and thats generous).
Don't shyt on Buff. Buff was rad breh. Before the neck injury, he was a perfectly good stoogy mid card comedy heel who could go pretty well. Then his promos with Steiner while recovering from the neck injury were probably the best parts of 1998 WCW. After that, though...scust.
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You got a point with the towel...but you're wrong about Cesaro stealing from Naito, at least on the suit point.I see Cesaro is now stealing Naito's spots and taunts (after stealing his suit gimmick, and Suzuki's towel gimmick). That Swiss fukk. Do something original, you c*nt.
Naito wore suits to delay and troll. Cesaro gets the intended Jason Statham look pop, then yanks his off before going down the ramp.
Naito was developing his heel "I can't give a single fukk" steez, while they're trying to give Cesaro an action movie star look.
I don't watch WWE much lately, how else has Cesaro been stealing?
Beautiful Bobby Eatin
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Buff was an American Male up until the time he joined. Your point is my point. Let Page rock.
Straight up took Naito's run forever dropkick and follows it with Naito's pose on the mat. At the time he started his super strong gimmick, he started doing a lot of spots that other strong guy Michael Elgin happened to be doing and popularizing at the same time (but fukk Elgin, neither of them came up with the deadlift apron superplex since Kanyon and Saturn were doing that in 1998 on Nitro weekly, also he looks like Quebecer Pierre literally fukked a pig in the Canadian wilderness), he wholesale adopted Jack Swagger's gimmick, and tried doing a bootleg M.Bison/Dictator gimmick in NXT. Now he's ripping off Naito and Jason Statham at the same time.
That stealing Swiss fukk can
It's usually not a big deal, except when a dude has a consistent pattern of blatantly stealing from other guys/media in an attempt to get over. After a while, it just looks desperate and shows a lack of creativity and uniqueness.
I forgot to mention that he completely aped Tyson's persona when they teamed up, as well.
I forgot to mention that he completely aped Tyson's persona when they teamed up, as well.
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Just watched Shibata/Nagata
The announcer was on one
Dope match though
The announcer was on one
Dope match though